At a time when Pakistan Iran relations are tanking, Saudi minister land in Pakistan.

[Shehryar Ashraf]

And some Far right Europeans and Americans believe that Turkiye is a trojan horse inside NATO.

The truth is Turkiye in Nato means the allies of Turkiye have a strong voice and supporter in NATO. And this is not enough Turkiye and it’s allies and brother nations should also be represented in UNSC the world is bigger then five

NATO is the US and its vassal states. Turkiye does not make or influence NATO policy. It does not have a strong voice in that Organization the US does. It will always be looked as an outsider, at best a tool to bash Russia with. If Turkiye truely has a voice in NATO did, then It would use NATO to bash the Greeks with. after all the Greeks have strong historical,cultural and religious ties with Russia, surely NATO could be used to pressure them.
The Fact is that Turkiye does not have much of say in NATO affairs.

 

[Kompromat]

Why do so much effort, just nuke Iran


Our foreign policy revolves around aids and loans... sorry, this is a bitter reality. We can't do business independently. We can't buy cheap oil from the open market.

You have to install checks and balances on the Iranian IRGC. Not to destroy Iran. There has to be a cost to their actions.

 

[EAGLE777]

NATO is the US and its vassal states. Turkiye does not make or influence NATO policy. It does not have a strong voice in that Organization the US does. It will always be looked as an outsider, at best a tool to bash Russia with. If Turkiye truely has a voice in NATO did, then It would use NATO to bash the Greeks with. after all the Greeks have strong historical,cultural and religious ties with Russia, surely NATO could be used to pressure them.
The Fact is that Turkiye does not have much of say in NATO affairs.

Greece is also a Nato member, even if we assume as true what you just said Turkiye being Nato member atleast makes sure that Nato doesn't attack Turkiye in a direct war.

If Nato invited Pakistan, Iran or Saudi to become a member all of you would jump in joy and accept it.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

AS a pro Israeli Yahood libturd I find myself a big fan of Saudia. The reason? With Saudia hugging and kissing the Zionist Israel Riyadh will cash in the favours down the road when it orders Pakistan to 'Recognize Israel NOW'!.

Down with the mullah regime of Iran !!!

 

[SIPRA]

Greece is also a Nato member, even if we assume as true what you just said Turkiye being Nato member atleast makes sure that Nato doesn't attack Turkiye in a direct war.

If Nato invited Pakistan, Iran or Saudi to become a member all of you would jump in joy and accept it.

Brother: Pakistan and Turkiye are brotherly countries, with historical close relations. Don't enter into argument with a few Pakistani posters, who think otherwise. Pakistan has no problem, whatsoever, with Turkiye being a part of NATO. It is the sole prerogative of Turkiye, to assess, what is in their best interest. Whatever suits Turkiye, suits Pakistan.

 

[EAGLE777]

I just find it hypocritical from people like @Shehryar Ashraf because i am sure if europe gives him visa he will immediately move to Nato europe. But here he is against evil "Nato" Turkey

AS a pro Israeli Yahood libturd I find myself a big fan of Saudia. The reason? With Saudia hugging and kissing the Zionist Israel Riyadh will cash in the favours down the road when it orders Pakistan to 'Recognize Israel NOW'!.

Down with the mullah regime of Iran !!!

You're a known fanatic mullah supporter no need to be sarcastic about it.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Deliver Yemen to House of Saud for a warchest.

I agree. I am always surprised how Pakistan has failed to use it's huge army on a professional contract basis? I don' mean one bit UN or other small deployments. I mean like America contracted it's half a million army to Saudia in Gulf War for I believe over $100 billion in todays money. Sort of money that could lift Pakistan out of it's perpetual bankrupt state.

Yemen was such good example. Say $40 billion for clearing that counry off the rebels with all operating costs borne by KSA/UAE. This is a great 'business model' that US, UK, France and even Egypt have used to their financial advantage. Beats begging the IMF for paltry $1 billion. It also raises profile of your milirary - providing you win of course and garners influence.

The Fact is that Turkiye does not have much of say in NATO affairs.

Actually it has enormous influence on NATO. How else is Erdogan able to mouth off against all and sundry but face no real tangible blowback. Also the 1972 invasion of Cyprus by Turkey [the only recorded even in recent times where a Muslim country has invaded and captured land off a western Christian country] was only possible because of Turkeys critical role in NATO.

You're a known fanatic mullah supporter no need to be sarcastic about it

I am a fanatic supporter of Persia and the pre 1979 order of the Shah - in case you missed this I am a staunch secularist and there was not a drop of sarcasm in my post.

 

[khansaheeb]

Not really. I couldn't care about Israel ... BUT.. here is the kicker.... Listen carefully... If you can... If, Iran is actively instigating terrorism against Pakistan in Balochistan ... Then an only then... make peace with Israel and invite them to invade Iran and exterminate the Mullah Terrorist Regime of Iran.

Do you understand now?... Or are you still confused???

Btw... Over 90% of the Quran is about Israel and Jewish history... So we can't really hate the Jews without hating the Quran. Go figure.

But all evidence is showing that the terrorism in Baluchistan is from Indian sponsored terrorists from Afghanistan, but you and your fellow hindjew soldiers keep blaming Iran. Pakistan has good relationships with Iran and we have a great future partnership in all fields including, trade, connectivity, education, defense, cultural exchanges and regional peace.

 

[EAGLE777]

@Indus Pakistan But i don't like seculars too

 

[Shehryar Ashraf]

I just find it hypocritical from people like @Shehryar Ashraf because i am sure if europe gives him visa he will immediately move to Nato europe. But here he is against evil "Nato" Turkey

Do not make presume I would move to NATO Europe if given a Visa.
a move to Russia on the other hand... cold climate, sparse population, established Islamic community. that would be much more attractive.

 

[Vapnope]

People, why do we have to murder someone to get money? Are we mercenaries? Most of the people are in favour of jumping into someone's else war while the same people never own the WOT where our own soldiers were killed.

Let Saudia handle Yemen and let Iran handle Israel, we should directly punishing the country that attacks our interests be it KSA, Iran or any other country.

 

[Shehryar Ashraf]

Greece is also a Nato member, even if we assume as true what you just said Turkiye being Nato member atleast makes sure that Nato doesn't attack Turkiye in a direct war.

If Nato invited Pakistan, Iran or Saudi to become a member all of you would jump in joy and accept it.

Think NATO is too fixated on Russia to try and create another front on the Bosphorus.
In fact now is the best time to pull out. while their attentions are elsewhere.
and if you truely want protection, its called WMDs, try and get them. better off relying on them,rather than to relying on the West.

 

[EAGLE777]

Think NATO is too fixated on Russia to try and create another front on the Bosphorus.
In fact now is the best time to pull out. while their attentions are elsewhere.
and if you truely want protection, its called WMDs, try and get them. better off relying on them,rather than to relying on the West.

Turkiye is able to develop those outdated tech in no time if it wants so, the repurcussion is to severe we will get sanctioned and embargoes. Turkiye doesn't want to become a failed state like Iran.

 

[Arsalan890]

I think it's finally time to align with Saudia and destroy Iran. Either stay away from both viruses or join one of them to eliminate other.

 

[Shehryar Ashraf]

Turkiye is able to develop those outdated tech in no time if it wants so, the repurcussion is to severe we will get sanctioned and embargoes. Turkiye doesn't want to become a failed state like Iran.

getting sanctioned and embargoed is the price one must pay for freedom and independence.