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Assad's soldiers mock the Qur'an

arabs have been making a suicidal mistake of putting arabism above Islam. You'd be surprised and appalled to hear that when the 67 war had started, the egyptian president jamal abdul nasir had said that "sons of phiroan are now fighting the sons of Musa (a.s.)"...you think Allah would've helped them???
 
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Just googled Alawites, extremely secretive and very far flung from normal Shia. Hows minority took control of majority. Needs correction

Dont believe google, there is a lot genuine research needed for the specific groups you're referring to. There are Alawis, then there are Alevis - both are almost pronounced same but distinct sects - both sects consider themselves the followers of Ali Ibn Abi Talib but both are not similar to Ithna Asheri (Twelvers) Shias (the majority shias) with regards to the beliefs.

Alevis are similar to Akhbari shias of Twelvers but they are not Akhbaris - on the other hand Alevis are also similar with regards to their beliefs with sufis but they are also not sufis.

Alevis also follow the Twelve Imams but in a Tassawuf manner which is not accepted in Usooli Shia Islam which is the majority.

Then there are Alawis also known as Alawites and Nusayris - according to some people they are secretive about their beliefs and others claim that they consider Ali Ibn Abi Talib as God and they are kafirs (which if true is genuine kufar and should be considered kafirs if known)because of their beliefs, I haven't met any Nusayri or Alawi personally so I cannot confirm their beliefs but I have met Ghalis who make Ghulu.

Now ghali is another branch who call themselves shias but the mainstream Twelver Shia Muslims have different opinion of them.

Its very complicated and a newbie cannot understand most of the details that is why I urge everyone who asks me about Shia Islam that when researching please think about the other side of the motion and be neutral.

I as follower of School of Ahlul-Bayt confirm this, we may have so many differences within each other and with the groups mentioned above but we have one thing in common and that is Ali Ibn Abi Talib and where Ali Ibn Abi Talib leads to - Yes we do have differences with regards to the position of Ali Ibn Abi Talib in Islam which should be addressed to other muslim schools.

In the end, pretty much everyone has a different belief and recognition in his/her heart and soul about the Absolute so I cannot say someone is a kafir etc based on my judgement without any solid evidence, as long as someone believes in Allah and his justice and in finality of Prophethood and in Prophet Muhammad as the final messenger and in Qayamat - he is my brother in faith.

Allah knows better.

he definitely added something to the last ayah.

He also added something to the 2nd verse - something like "rijal namr" or something replacing "النَّاسَ" @Malik Alashter should actually must explain please if we have misunderstood something? Since he is the one defending the dude in that video.
 
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He also added something to the 2nd verse - something like "rijal namr" or something replacing "النَّاسَ" @Malik Alashter should actually must explain please if we have misunderstood something? Since he is the one defending the dude in that video.

I see, thanks for pointing that out.
He's the first arab based person I've seen to defend him. It was posted by this arab dude initially when I saw it - . All the arabs on there are just cursing or praying for the destruction of the guy in the video.
 
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I see, thanks for pointing that out.
He's the first arab based person I've seen to defend him. It was posted by this arab dude initially when I saw it - . All the arabs on there are just cursing or praying for the destruction of the guy in the video.

"ميليشيات النمر " is the word used in the tweet above - I think in the video, the guy is referring "Tiger Forces" or "Quwwat Al-Nimr" in the second verse of Surah An-Nasr - check the following link - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_Forces

I hope @Malik Alashter clear things out - if not this is bad real bad.
 
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Some individuals say something, not important. Important is the war of independence against the current world order. We need multilateralism, that's what the war is about, not about islam.
 
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Some individuals say something, not important. Important is the war of independence against the current world order. We need multilateralism, that's what the war is about, not about islam.
no problem, but I think you guys should stop defending such individuals if they are committing mistakes with regards to the Religion Islam - Remember you call yourselves the followers of Ahlul-Bayt, are you not?
 
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Dont believe google, there is a lot genuine research needed for the specific groups you're referring to. There are Alawis, then there are Alevis - both are almost pronounced same but distinct sects - both sects consider themselves the followers of Ali Ibn Abi Talib but both are not similar to Ithna Asheri (Twelvers) Shias (the majority shias) with regards to the beliefs.

Alevis are similar to Akhbari shias of Twelvers but they are not Akhbaris - on the other hand Alevis are also similar with regards to their beliefs with sufis but they are also not sufis.

Alevis also follow the Twelve Imams but in a Tassawuf manner which is not accepted in Usooli Shia Islam which is the majority.

Then there are Alawis also known as Alawites and Nusayris - according to some people they are secretive about their beliefs and others claim that they consider Ali Ibn Abi Talib as God and they are kafirs (which if true is genuine kufar and should be considered kafirs if known)because of their beliefs, I haven't met any Nusayri or Alawi personally so I cannot confirm their beliefs but I have met Ghalis who make Ghulu.

Now ghali is another branch who call themselves shias but the mainstream Twelver Shia Muslims have different opinion of them.

Its very complicated and a newbie cannot understand most of the details that is why I urge everyone who asks me about Shia Islam that when researching please think about the other side of the motion and be neutral.

I as follower of School of Ahlul-Bayt confirm this, we may have so many differences within each other and with the groups mentioned above but we have one thing in common and that is Ali Ibn Abi Talib and where Ali Ibn Abi Talib leads to - Yes we do have differences with regards to the position of Ali Ibn Abi Talib in Islam which should be addressed to other muslim schools.

In the end, pretty much everyone has a different belief and recognition in his/her heart and soul about the Absolute so I cannot say someone is a kafir etc based on my judgement without any solid evidence, as long as someone believes in Allah and his justice and in finality of Prophethood and in Prophet Muhammad as the final messenger and in Qayamat - he is my brother in faith.

Allah knows better.



He also added something to the 2nd verse - something like "rijal namr" or something replacing "النَّاسَ" @Malik Alashter should actually must explain please if we have misunderstood something? Since he is the one defending the dude in that video.
Bro that dude is Sunni yes he replaced Alnas with rijal alnimr I heard it many times to make sure he said that I once Don't defend no one except we should be careful with Takfir. Now does that mean he is wrong or not I don't know
Anyway I should never in the first place involve in this kind of posts
We Muslims need to leave this kind of judgement and get hostilities that will never benefit us

Bro all these sects are Shia twelvers except Ismailese are not weather alawetd or alavi they're twelvers but due to the angulation mode that were and still targeting Shia they were living in secrecy to save their lives and their families just read history about what happened to Shia during The Abbasid, the ummayed and the Ottoman you'll know exactly what happened and why the secrecy
 
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It's pretty clear that Assad supporters, whether on this thread or in the battle field, have very little respect for the Qur'an.

Some guy is changing verses of the Qur'an and these guys are unfazed. The iraqi dude above won't even say whether the assad soldier is wrong or not... And the Iranian Shapur guy thinks it's not important.
 
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Bro all these sects are Shia twelvers except Ismailese are not weather alawetd or alavi they're twelvers but due to the angulation mode that were and still targeting Shia they were living in secrecy to save their lives and their families just read history about what happened to Shia during The Abbasid, the ummayed and the Ottoman you'll know exactly what happened and why the secrecy

Brother my claim was about the jurisprudence, not with regards to ethics and theology. And I was referring to the Alevi's of Turkey and Alawi's of Syria.

We also have so many commonalities with Sunnis with regards to theology and ethics but our sources are not aligned with them. For example we can only debate with them on Quranic issues - likewise they can only debate with us on Quranic issues. (Even ours and theirs Quranic Interpretations are different) When discussing secondary issues and having intra-faith dialogue with them (Sunnis), blame game starts which never ends in a good way.

And I am not saying we should not have intra-faith (not interfaith) dialogue with our brothers, intra-faith dialogue must happen that is the only way we will know each other and our position in Islam and according to Islam.

I support intra-faith dialogue.
 
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