Ashraf Ghani from UAE: Supports Taliban Talks!

[Wood]

He should write a book to explain his view point. At the moment, everyone is quick to pounce on him with hatred. It would be unfair for the man to not have a chance to explain his reasons.

If he makes a compassionate case, it may even result in a movie deal

 

[CrazyZ]

He should write a book to explain his view point. At the moment, everyone is quick to pounce on him with hatred. It would be unfair for the man to not have a chance to explain his reasons.

If he makes a compassionate case, it may even result in a movie deal

Name of Ghani's book should be "how to get routed in 10 easy steps".

 

[Irfan Baloch]

the bastard did it with a plan

 

[Meengla]

He should write a book to explain his view point. At the moment, everyone is quick to pounce on him with hatred. It would be unfair for the man to not have a chance to explain his reasons.
If he makes a compassionate case, it may even result in a movie deal

True. He has the right to defend himself. But why a book? A Bollywood movie would be certainly more profitable IMO.

Seriously speaking-- I wish he goes to Afghanistan and join Karzai-Abdullah with arms locked and publicly declare the war is over and endorse the new setup. It would be game-over!

 

[Wood]

Seriously speaking-- I wish he goes to Afghanistan and join Karzai-Abdullah with arms locked and publicly declare the war is over and endorse the new setup. It would be game-over!

This will give more credibility to the countries that are willing to recognize Taliban. But I doubt that it will be enough for NATO countries. Rebels within Afghanistan will also not care for such gestures.

Only real way for the Taliban to join the world community is through their behaviour. Transparency to international media and some basic freedom to the Afghan people.

 

[omegalamba7XL9]

Your security forces Ghani your security forces .
They are not secured themselves therfore asked you let's get f out of here.

 

[ghazi52]

Ashraf Ghani (left) with his mother (second to the left). Photographed in late 1960's.

 

[Meengla]

This will give more credibility to the countries that are willing to recognize Taliban. But I doubt that it will be enough for NATO countries. Rebels within Afghanistan will also not care for such gestures.

Only real way for the Taliban to join the world community is through their behaviour. Transparency to international media and some basic freedom to the Afghan people.

It remains to be seen what NATO countries are thinking. Actually, there is no 'NATO' it is just USA and the rest are leeches fleecing America in one way or another while America gets a label of 'international community' umbrella term through them. But I digress.

But you are right: Global legitimacy will come from the Taliban behavior. A level of moderation will go long ways in securing the legitimacy. But survival is not dependent on the global legitimacy: As I posted a NY Times column in another thread today where US is cutting off funds to Taliban, the Taliban are NOT dependent on external funds just to stay in power. They have access to funds via border crossings and via the informal economy. Also, according to Pakistani journalist Saleem Safi, the Taliban cadre is disciplined enough to bear immense hardship if their Emir asks them to.

Bottom line .. some big public show inclusive of the recently-former Afghan leaders with the Taliban should be made where there is formation of a Govt of National Reconciliation with or without Ashraf Ghani. It will help the Taliban and Pakistan a lot.

 

[Super Falcon]

Do we remember who is krzai and abdullah these both were the first soul sellers to india karzai will bring india vecause his stakes are in india

 

[Wood]

It remains to be seen what NATO countries are thinking. Actually, there is no 'NATO' it is just USA and the rest are leeches fleecing America in one way or another while America gets a label of 'international community' umbrella term through them. But I digress.

Well, yesterday the Canadian PM declared that Canada considers Taliban as a terrorist organization and does not recognize them. If you think about it, the NATO countries have lost soldiers fighting the Taliban. They are not likely turn 180 any time soon for obvious internal political reasons. Another way to gauge the sentiment of NATO countries is by watching their state's international news desk. DW and other such agencies squarely discredit Taliban even now. Things may change in future depending on national interests for these countries, but not right now.

Oh btw, don't say Canucks are leeching America. Canadians fought the American war in Afghanistan and paid for their place in NATO with blood. Trump is short sighted to complain about allies not contributing their fair share of the GDP to maintain NATO alliance. America gets to be the leader of NATO alliance ONLY because they can pay more. NATO leadership is a privilege that the US pays for.

But you are right: Global legitimacy will come from the Taliban behavior. A level of moderation will go long ways in securing the legitimacy. But survival is not dependent on the global legitimacy: As I posted a NY Times column in another thread today where US is cutting off funds to Taliban, the Taliban are NOT dependent on external funds just to stay in power. They have access to funds via border crossings and via the informal economy. Also, according to Pakistani journalist Saleem Safi, the Taliban cadre is disciplined enough to bear immense hardship if their Emir asks them to.

It is certainly as you say. The Chinese will bankroll Taliban as long as they can mine resources from the country freely. If anything, I see Taliban thriving - not just just surviving. American financial blockade will only dent their growth, but will not be anything more than that.

 

[Meengla]

So it is official: The US State Dept is washing its hands off Ashraf Ghani!!

 

[HAIDER]

Wow!

“I am currently in talks to return to Afghanistan.” .... UAE is again playing dirty game of thornes ...

 

[PakFactor]

It remains to be seen what NATO countries are thinking. Actually, there is no 'NATO' it is just USA and the rest are leeches fleecing America in one way or another while America gets a label of 'international community' umbrella term through them. But I digress.

But you are right: Global legitimacy will come from the Taliban behavior. A level of moderation will go long ways in securing the legitimacy. But survival is not dependent on the global legitimacy: As I posted a NY Times column in another thread today where US is cutting off funds to Taliban, the Taliban are NOT dependent on external funds just to stay in power. They have access to funds via border crossings and via the informal economy. Also, according to Pakistani journalist Saleem Safi, the Taliban cadre is disciplined enough to bear immense hardship if their Emir asks them to.

Bottom line .. some big public show inclusive of the recently-former Afghan leaders with the Taliban should be made where there is formation of a Govt of National Reconciliation with or without Ashraf Ghani. It will help the Taliban and Pakistan a lot.

I was reading another opinion piece and you might've come across it as well today. Which stated the main recognition that's needed is from Pakistan, China and Russia to recognize the Taliban led government. NATO legitimacy or recognition isn't necessary at this point, and will bring no benefit. Geopolitically speaking the US & Co., has been made redundant in the Central Asian Great Game, and the main powers that matter as stated above is all that's needed to seal the deal.

In my opinion, the U.S. is in a panic mode vis-a-vis China who took the last 20 years to assert itself and learn from the American conflict and how to strategize just as they did after the 1st Gulf War; which forced the Chinese to rethink and organize their armed forces.

- Installed a PCR friendly regime in Afghanistan (basically lost the war no matter how many battles NATO won)
- Installed an Iran friendly government in Iraq
- Forced Russia into the Middle East vis-a-vis Sryia
- Forced Iran to spread its influence
- Forced China to flex it's muscle (and India was made an example of it)

Effectively created another block in the Middle East/Central Asian Region not U.S. friendly.

The U.S. and excuse my language fucked up it's geopolitical strategy in the region for decades to come.

@Meengla

I added more details.

 

[FuturePAF]

“I am currently in talks to return to Afghanistan.” .... UAE is again playing dirty game of thornes ...

This guy should only comeback when he is serious to endorse a peace deal. His delays in negotiating are part of what doomed his government.

 

[Meengla]

It is certainly as you say. The Chinese will bankroll Taliban as long as they can mine resources from the country freely. If anything, I see Taliban thriving - not just just surviving. American financial blockade will only dent their growth, but will not be anything more than that.

I have lower faith in the fabled Afghan 'mines'. BUT, yes, the Taliban are capable of SURVIVING like North Korea 'Juche' style except without producing much. The base of the Afghanistan economy is so low that 75% of the economy is supported by Americans. They don't have much to lose, sadly. Even in their best of times (the King Zahir Shah era) even a second-tier Pakitani city was better than Kabul. But they did have peace.