As US pulls out of Afghanistan, its weapons head for Pakistan

[klub]

M270 good system but we already have 100km smerch and pinaka 60km , AIM 9X unlikely but we have a PYTHON 5 already that are similar.

 

[Dash]

Most probably Humvees and MRAPs would be divided in 50-50 for Afghan and Pakistan Forces.

But I was always wondering that as USA Military is not liking the Humvees and have developed MRAPs then why not the just give for free all of its Humvees to IRAQ, Afghanistan and Pakistan Military???

Only seniors should answer it.

Bro, nothing comes for free. Its either cash or something similar in return. There is still no proper subsitutte for the Humvees. They have to live with them for some more years.

 

[Rank]

Humvee

Its best jeep available in world.. I wish I can get one..

Who told you this... that the Humvee best jeep available in the world?

 

[Major Sam]

Who told you this... that the Humvee best jeep available in the world?

TOIlet Paper

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Maybe we can make a "jugaad" out of that Fire Control System for other MBRLS in our inventory.

Our own FCS PAK-FIRE:

PAKFIRE
Artillery Fire Control System
PAKFIRE is a modular, reliable, secure, user friendly and fully integrated Artillery Fire Control System that automates all operational functions of artillery and ensures fast and accurate fire on targets. It provides an automated solution for Preparation, Coordination, Dissemination, Execution and Modification of Fire Support Plan, Fire Plan, and Gun programs. It has a scalable system architecture that is suitable for present combat scenarios and can be deployed at all combat echelons. PAKFIRE interfaces with all types of external systems, like radars, meteorological systems, UAVs and Command & Control through wired/wireless media.
PAKFIRE Modules

Artillery Fire Direction Module receives target information from Forward Observers, Counter Bombardment and Fire Support Organizations. The data of met system and non standard conditions is then added to calculate fast and accurate firing data which is then transmitted to guns and digital message units using wired or wireless media.
Fire Support Planning Module is designed to integrate fire support with the maneuver plan. It assists in the preparation, coordination, dissemination, execution and modification of Fire Support Plan (FSP). All types of GIS functionalities like map navigation, drawing of tactical and military symbols, preparation of operational overlays etc have been incorporated.
Counter Bombardment Module integrates external sensors like Radars, UAVs etc with PAKFIRE for speedy transfer of information. It assists commanders and staff in employment of Locating Resources by providing Software Aids/Tools. It shows various charts, plots, HB List, and CB Task Table generated automatically by the system.
Supporting Functions Module enables Commanders in Allocation, Modification, and Management of resources like Ammunition, Weapons, Vehicles and Manpower.
Operational Features

Facilitates Observer in identification/acquisition of targets and passage of fire orders
Handles all artillery procedures and functions
Computes accurate ballistic data for all types of ammunition
Incorporates scanned, vector imagery and 3D terrain maps
Available for battery, regiment, divisional and up to operational level configurations
Advanced level of networking features to ensure continuous connectivity
Ruggedized hardware to work in harsh environmental conditions based on Military specifications


ON-TOPIC: HOW RELIABLE IS THE NEWS? I doubt the X version of AMRAAMs will be sold to us..

Humvee

Its best jeep available in world.. I wish I can get one..

LOL... Its an SUV ... not a JEEP!

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

M270 good system but we already have 100km smerch and pinaka 60km , AIM 9X unlikely but we have a PYTHON 5 already that are similar.

For smerch we have 150Km ranged A-100s...Pinaka has a range of 40km at max.. and we have KRL-122 with 45km range.. as for Python lol.. its useless an a BVR missile.. india bought small/medium ranged SAMs...with 15km range... we have SPADA-2000 with aspide 2000 ...


Read abt its specs:

SPADA 2000

SPADA 2000 is an advanced, ground based missile system capable of operating in dense ECM environments to provide all weather, day and night area defence against combat aircraft and incoming missiles. The SPADA 2000 it’s a further development of the family of systems that now benefits from the increased engagement range of the powerful ASPIDE 2000 missile as well as the increased detection range and track management capabilities of the new Detection Centre.

SPADA 2000 is integrated within a shelter system allowing for both tactical and strategic mobility, including air-transportability from a C-130 transport aircraft. The basic configuration of the SPADA 2000 system consists of a Detection Centre, two Firing Sections (expandable to four) each with two Missile Launchers. Each Missile Launcher houses six ready-to-fire ASPIDE 2000 missiles.

The operational performance of the ASPIDE 2000 missile allows it to engage air threats at ranges well beyond other VSHORAD missiles and engage attacking aircraft before they can release their standoff rocket-propelled missiles or intercepting these missiles once released. This upgrade of the original ASPIDE missile embodies the latest electronic features to improve its guidance characteristics and effectiveness in heavy clutter and ECM environments. ASPIDE 2000 is compatible with all systems currently using the ASPIDE multi-role missile by the simple application of a cost-effective modification kit. Similarly, all existing ASPIDE multi-role missiles can be retrofitted to the ASPIDE 2000 configuration with only marginal costs. Logistic support remains unchanged.


Characteristics of the ASPIDE 2000 missile





Intercept Range:…in excess of 25 Km
Speed:……………High Supersonic
Guidance:………semi-active radar homing


http://www.mbda-systems.com/mbda/site/ref/scripts/EN_Spada-2000_93.html

 

[EagleEyes]

I am amused to find folks chest thumping on something that is given in charity! I mean .....friends...have some self-respect! Credit par army khadi karoge to ek din bankruptcy file karni padegi

Bullets always find its target, free or paid.

Pakistan can spend that money else where.

 

[xyxmt]

EXCLUSIVE : As US pulls out of Afghanistan, its weapons head for Pakistan

With the United States all set to withdraw from Afghanistan, alarm bells have begun to ring in New Delhi as reports indicate that a lot of arms being used by the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) could end up with the Pakistani military.

The last time Pakistan received advanced weapons from the Americans in the 1980s, it led to the eruption of a terrorism movement in Kashmir. It is understood that New Delhi’s concerns have been communicated to US vice president Joe Biden who was on a state visit here last month.

India’s security establishment has been receiving steady reports that a large consignment of advanced arms is being claimed by Pakistan. On the cards are large consignments of night vision devices, sniper rifles, laser target designators for the Pakistan Air Force and counter-IED equipment. But what has alarmed New Delhi is a move by Pakistan to get weapon systems that don’t have anything to do with counter-terrorism.

Reports indicate that the United States is considering handing over AMRAAM air-to-air and sidewinder missiles as well as M-270 multiple launch rocket systems. It is believed that since these could come under strict export controls, the weapon systems will be first handed over to a friendly third country, which, in turn, will hand them over to Pakistan. While India has expressed its concern over transfer of such weapon systems, the United States has been non-committal to New Delhi on the issue.

Indian analysts believe that this is a worrying development but needs to be handled with maturity and not alarm. Washington is committed to resuming military aid to Pakistan under the Pakistan Counter Terrorism Fund (PCF) and the Pakistan Counter-Terrorism Capability Fund (PCCF). “Some of this equipment in Afghanistan could fall under either category setting it off against the committed value of aid already authorised by US Congress,” says Rana Banerji, former special secretary with R&AW and a noted Pakistan expert. “Both the Pakistan Army and the US want to repair the relationship which went sharply downhill after the Raymond Davis Affair in January 2011.” According to him, the visit by US secretary of state John Kerry could be a major resumption of a strategic dialogue between the United States and Pakistan.

Former ambassador to Afghanistan Vivek Katju is also circumspect about the developments. “Things have changed significantly since the 1980s and our conventional superiority against Pakistan is quite impressive. So if they get some weapons, it is worrying but we should not react without getting to understand the mechanics of any deal to transfer weapons.” According to Katju, the United States needs Pakistan desperately to ensure a peaceful withdrawal from Afghanistan next year. “The role of Pakistan is critical and in Pakistan the military is critical. So Washington needs to engage the military and keep them happy. This could be one such move,” he told dna.

Link - dna exclusive: As US pulls out of Afghanistan, its weapons head for Pakistan - India - DNA

have no worries my Indian friends, those weapons will turn into different factions to keep fighting inside outside and sideways, keeping both our countries busy for next few decades, dont we love white master!

 

[My-Analogous]

Nothing new they are offering to Pakistan. Pakistan already have better or equivalent options

 

[Black Eagle 90]

Our own FCS PAK-FIRE:

PAKFIRE
Artillery Fire Control System
PAKFIRE is a modular, reliable, secure, user friendly and fully integrated Artillery Fire Control System that automates all operational functions of artillery and ensures fast and accurate fire on targets. It provides an automated solution for Preparation, Coordination, Dissemination, Execution and Modification of Fire Support Plan, Fire Plan, and Gun programs. It has a scalable system architecture that is suitable for present combat scenarios and can be deployed at all combat echelons. PAKFIRE interfaces with all types of external systems, like radars, meteorological systems, UAVs and Command & Control through wired/wireless media.
PAKFIRE Modules

Artillery Fire Direction Module receives target information from Forward Observers, Counter Bombardment and Fire Support Organizations. The data of met system and non standard conditions is then added to calculate fast and accurate firing data which is then transmitted to guns and digital message units using wired or wireless media.
Fire Support Planning Module is designed to integrate fire support with the maneuver plan. It assists in the preparation, coordination, dissemination, execution and modification of Fire Support Plan (FSP). All types of GIS functionalities like map navigation, drawing of tactical and military symbols, preparation of operational overlays etc have been incorporated.
Counter Bombardment Module integrates external sensors like Radars, UAVs etc with PAKFIRE for speedy transfer of information. It assists commanders and staff in employment of Locating Resources by providing Software Aids/Tools. It shows various charts, plots, HB List, and CB Task Table generated automatically by the system.
Supporting Functions Module enables Commanders in Allocation, Modification, and Management of resources like Ammunition, Weapons, Vehicles and Manpower.
Operational Features

Facilitates Observer in identification/acquisition of targets and passage of fire orders
Handles all artillery procedures and functions
Computes accurate ballistic data for all types of ammunition
Incorporates scanned, vector imagery and 3D terrain maps
Available for battery, regiment, divisional and up to operational level configurations
Advanced level of networking features to ensure continuous connectivity
Ruggedized hardware to work in harsh environmental conditions based on Military specifications


ON-TOPIC: HOW RELIABLE IS THE NEWS? I doubt the X version of AMRAAMs will be sold to us..




LOL... Its an SUV ... not a JEEP!

Why not POF and HIT or HMC does JV with Germany on Small Arms and also on Artillery guns like 57mm, 76mm, 110mm, 125mm and 155mm Guns.

For PN: 57mm, 76mm & 110mm Guns.

For PA: 110mm, 125mm and 155mm Guns.

For smerch we have 150Km ranged A-100s...Pinaka has a range of 40km at max.. and we have KRL-122 with 45km range.. as for Python lol.. its useless an a BVR missile.. india bought small/medium ranged SAMs...with 15km range... we have SPADA-2000 with aspide 2000 ...


Read abt its specs:

SPADA 2000

SPADA 2000 is an advanced, ground based missile system capable of operating in dense ECM environments to provide all weather, day and night area defence against combat aircraft and incoming missiles. The SPADA 2000 it’s a further development of the family of systems that now benefits from the increased engagement range of the powerful ASPIDE 2000 missile as well as the increased detection range and track management capabilities of the new Detection Centre.

SPADA 2000 is integrated within a shelter system allowing for both tactical and strategic mobility, including air-transportability from a C-130 transport aircraft. The basic configuration of the SPADA 2000 system consists of a Detection Centre, two Firing Sections (expandable to four) each with two Missile Launchers. Each Missile Launcher houses six ready-to-fire ASPIDE 2000 missiles.

The operational performance of the ASPIDE 2000 missile allows it to engage air threats at ranges well beyond other VSHORAD missiles and engage attacking aircraft before they can release their standoff rocket-propelled missiles or intercepting these missiles once released. This upgrade of the original ASPIDE missile embodies the latest electronic features to improve its guidance characteristics and effectiveness in heavy clutter and ECM environments. ASPIDE 2000 is compatible with all systems currently using the ASPIDE multi-role missile by the simple application of a cost-effective modification kit. Similarly, all existing ASPIDE multi-role missiles can be retrofitted to the ASPIDE 2000 configuration with only marginal costs. Logistic support remains unchanged.


Characteristics of the ASPIDE 2000 missile





Intercept Range:…in excess of 25 Km
Speed:……………High Supersonic
Guidance:………semi-active radar homing


http://www.mbda-systems.com/mbda/site/ref/scripts/EN_Spada-2000_93.html

So why not PN bought 2-3 Batteries when PAF was buying it. Although it would be better for Pakistan to have a single Air-defence Force formed with the men from all the three forces.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

AMRAAMS i am not concerned about,they already have them anyway and will be used only on 60-70 odd f-16s.
Worried about aim-9x,as that improves dogfighting ability of PAF,they currently have no answer to our HOB missiles and this will somewhat alleviate the problem.Also will USA risk aim-9x tech falling in chinese hands?
MLRS-if this is worrying will depend on 2 things-
How many they will get and if its coming with ATCAMS round or dumb rounds.With dumb rounds smerch/a-100 be better.

 

[klub]

For smerch we have 150Km ranged A-100s...Pinaka has a range of 40km at max.. and we have KRL-122 with 45km range.. as for Python lol.. its useless an a BVR missile.. india bought small/medium ranged SAMs...with 15km range... we have SPADA-2000 with aspide 2000 ...


Read abt its specs:

SPADA 2000

SPADA 2000 is an advanced, ground based missile system capable of operating in dense ECM environments to provide all weather, day and night area defence against combat aircraft and incoming missiles. The SPADA 2000 it’s a further development of the family of systems that now benefits from the increased engagement range of the powerful ASPIDE 2000 missile as well as the increased detection range and track management capabilities of the new Detection Centre.

SPADA 2000 is integrated within a shelter system allowing for both tactical and strategic mobility, including air-transportability from a C-130 transport aircraft. The basic configuration of the SPADA 2000 system consists of a Detection Centre, two Firing Sections (expandable to four) each with two Missile Launchers. Each Missile Launcher houses six ready-to-fire ASPIDE 2000 missiles.

The operational performance of the ASPIDE 2000 missile allows it to engage air threats at ranges well beyond other VSHORAD missiles and engage attacking aircraft before they can release their standoff rocket-propelled missiles or intercepting these missiles once released. This upgrade of the original ASPIDE missile embodies the latest electronic features to improve its guidance characteristics and effectiveness in heavy clutter and ECM environments. ASPIDE 2000 is compatible with all systems currently using the ASPIDE multi-role missile by the simple application of a cost-effective modification kit. Similarly, all existing ASPIDE multi-role missiles can be retrofitted to the ASPIDE 2000 configuration with only marginal costs. Logistic support remains unchanged.


Characteristics of the ASPIDE 2000 missile





Intercept Range:…in excess of 25 Km
Speed:……………High Supersonic
Guidance:………semi-active radar homing


http://www.mbda-systems.com/mbda/site/ref/scripts/EN_Spada-2000_93.html

As usual senseless pakistani rant. Python's control surfaces enable it to maneuver like TVC on AIM9X. For your AIM120C5 105km we have R27 127KM and R77 140 -160KM. We have a SPYDER and AKASH missile system as well now. A 100 range is 40 -100km. Smerch too can do 100km.

Pinaka does 60km max actually .

 

[karan.1970]

Meh! a few hundred million of charity.. None of these is a game changer or something Pak does not already have.. A small windfall for PA to stay happy..

 

[Major Sam]

Meh! a few hundred million of charity.. None of these is a game changer or something Pak does not already have.. A small windfall for PA to stay happy..

My dear, just take rest.. which having diarrhea. if nothing gonna happen to india then why bothering to reply here. let us be happy on this charity.

As usual senseless pakistani rant. Python's control surfaces enable it to maneuver like TVC on AIM9X. For your AIM120C5 105km we have R27 127KM and R77 140 -160KM. We have a SPYDER and AKASH missile system as well now. A 100 range is 40 -100km. Smerch too can do 100km.

Pinaka does 60km max actually .

1st of do you have any radar which can engage JF-17 and F-16 at 160KM using BVR? Do you know at whih range BVR are mostly used and what is the kill range region of R-77?

 

[klub]

My dear, just take rest.. which having diarrhea. if nothing gonna happen to india then why bothering to reply here. let us be happy on this charity.




1st of do you have any radar which can engage JF-17 and F-16 at 160KM using BVR? Do you know at whih range BVR are mostly used and what is the kill range region of R-77?

BARS radar 400km su 30 MKI.