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Army vows all-out support to govt for economic stability

Are they talking about the military inc. economy, the GDP and all that.

The economic growth rate with a very healthy 6.1 % of GDP growth in PTI last year to a abysmally low 0.33% GDP growth in PDM and neutrals rule.

So much for the delusions of grandeur, ignorant and arrogant.

A million people, educated and skilled have left the country in last one year, more to follow. The country is doomed without a mandated government.
 
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The premier also observed that the expected investments would create jobs and livelihoods for the youth and women. "The focus should be on empowering young and females to realise their full potential."


By putting them in jails, torturing them after stripping them naked, illegal abductions, sexual harassments, and what not? :lol:
 
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That no one can predict, but getting loans and fundings will increasingly get tougher for Pakistan to fund any kind of growth. And if Pakistan defaults, it will take a minimum of 5 years to restructure and stabilize, forget growth.

Pak needs a hard reset if it wants to become a functional country. Otherwise it will only get worse and ultimately disintegration. Its getting even IMF loan just shows deterioration level. It's isn't even about IF now and it's only WHEN.
 
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Pak needs a hard reset if it wants to become a functional country. Otherwise it will only get worse and ultimately disintegration. Its getting even IMF loan just shows deterioration level. It's isn't even about IF now and it's only WHEN.

Pakistanis lack the democratic spirit to aspire for a fare government, either Pakistanis will be fully subservient to the establishment, or they will burn everything down.
 
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IK has been mocking the dangerous duffers for derailing economy in his speeches and this is what they came up with:

- a grand plan to loot the country together by generals and their commissopn makign corrupt frontmen zardari/sharifs
 
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The phrase “seeing the world through rose-tinted glasses” comes to mind.

I'm just amazed and in awe how after passing over, all officers become economists and commanding officers. Why even go to top-business schools might as well expand PMA campuses across Pakistan.
Because this ...........

Cold winter on the cards as govt fails to secure gas

Khaleeq Kiani Published June 21, 2023 Updated about 11 hours ago

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• First attempt to buy LNG from spot market this year falls through as no bids received
• Power, gas outages may increase if situation persists
ISLAMABAD: The country has failed to secure liquefied natural gas (LNG) from the spot market in its first attempt after a year-long break, as it received no bid for six shipments for the coming winter months.
State-run Pakistan LNG Ltd (PLL), which last week floated short-term tenders for three cargoes each in October and December, announced on Tuesday that it received no bid for any of the delivery windows until the closing time at 12:30pm.
The LNG supplies in the spot market eased in recent months, with significant price drops to the pre-Ukraine war level. This prompted the PLL to test the waters for its winter energy gas shortage.
However, those dealing with energy supplies said Pakistan’s strained relations with the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and adverse credit rating amid foreign exchange limitations kept the LNG traders at bay, as the country has been struggling to line up letters of credit for necessary imports.
PLL last week also issued a separate tender for three more cargoes — two in January and one in February — with a bid deadline of July 14.
This would also put to the test the government-to-government supply contract signed with Azerbaijan’s state-run Socar because there would be no price discovery from the comparable spot market bids to determine the reasonability of the bilateral price.
The PLL used to import up to three cargoes a month through spot tendering to meet seasonal demands, but it has been facing difficulties in securing even a single cargo since June last year when its repeated tenders failed to attract any bidder. Earlier bids were simply unaffordable and beyond paying capacity of the country’s foreign exchange resources.
Instead, the government had to increase electricity loadshedding, besides rationing gas supplies and withdrawing subsidies to the export sector.
After a gap of over a year, the PLL now again floated international tenders for nine cargoes for delivery between October 2023 and February 2024 — a period when hydropower generation gets close to zero and the gas demand from residential consumers also increases with winter demand. The viability of the PLL-Socar relationship may be put to the test during those times.
Socar had in the past been bidding for LNG cargoes to Pakistan but was never successful because of its higher prices. The two nations have, however, been vying for cooperation in the oil and gas trade for almost a decade. They signed an inter-governmental agreement in February 2017 to boost energy cooperation.
Pakistan currently relies on seven LNG cargoes per month from Qatar through Pakistan State Oil under two contracts of 10 and 15 years and one per month through PLL’s 15-year contract with the Italian multinational energy company Eni, which has defaulted in supplies on a few occasions.
The average regasified LNG basket prices at the distribution stage almost halved to $12 per million British thermal units (mmBtu) for June compared to $23-24 in May last year, when the Pakistan Democratic Movement’s (PDM) government secured a string of spot cargoes procured in the first month in office to meet energy shortages.
Since then, repeated efforts to import more gas through spot tenders have failed owing to tight supply conditions and record prices in the international market following the Russian-Ukraine war.
All eight to 10 monthly cargoes are available to Pakistan under long-term contracts, mostly with Qatar, except one from another supplier.
Under the one-year contract (extendable) with state-run Socar of Azerbaijan, the company will offer one LNG cargo per month 45 days before the start of the relevant delivery window, and each offer for the cargo will have a set validity period during with PLL would accept or not the offer.
The LNG price would be offered by Socar to PLL in US dollars per mmBtu for each standard cargo of 3.2 million mmBtu 45 days before the delivery window.
The payment will be due within 30 days following PLL’s receipt of the invoice, for which it would issue a prior letter of credit from local banks. The letter’s confirmation charges would be on the seller’s account.
Published in Dawn, June 21st, 2023
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Bigger plan = USAPEC

First stage of the project is for PDM and the generals standing by them to bend over as far as possible and take a US stick in the rectum.

With the first stage done now we await stage 2. The project has delays.
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You know... when I see Ukranian military, smaller than PA and woefully underarmed and lacking an air force, managing to repulse and even defeat the Russians who are more powerful than the Indians, I wonder if Pakistan could have retake Kashmir had the Pakistan Army been like UkAF and only focused on its job instead of focusing on real estate, politics, businesses, economics.

@MastanKhan
You must be quite special, to be able to discount the tens of Billions of USD in financial support and an array of some of the most capable western weapons systems, training, intel etc., being provided to the Ukrainian military day in and day out to even be able to stand against Russian might.

I mean, I can understand if people have problems with some of the decisions that the Military high command has made over the years but to go total nuts is another thing altogether!
 
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You must be quite special, to be able to discount the tens of Billions of USD in financial support and an array of some of the most capable western weapons systems, training, intel etc., being provided to the Ukrainian military day in and day out to even be able to stand against Russian might.

I mean, I can understand if people have problems with some of the decisions that the Military high command has made over the years but to go total nuts is another thing altogether!
Try listing the "most capable western weapons systems" down and prove to me how and why they are the most capable in western arsenals. The tens of billions aren't necessarily cash. Much of it is old hardware that was more expensive to scrap.

The US has provided much more to Pakistan throughout decades which was in several wars. Intel through Soviet occupation, F-86, tanks, F-16, F-104, OHP frigates, military training, AIM-120C, etc, you name it. It's just that you seem to have forgotten. Tell me which BVR capable aircraft has the US provided to Ukraine that allowed it to take back Kharkhiv or Kherson?
 
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There's a limit to regional barter trading as somebody can't exchange much besides food and commodities.

This is no long-term solution to save on dollar reserves, as structural reforms are still needed.
We can buy anything for our wheat, rice, textiles and leather garments. It can be oil or gas or Iranian missiles.
 
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Why should Army Chief talk about economics? Understood that it might have been a talking point along with many others. But why make it a highlight.
Highlight of such a meeting should be security and security only. But it is not.
That is the problem with our neighbour. And a major one.

It is a vicious cycle in Pakistan: The military never allowed the civilians to be competent politicians and yet the military yielded, at least partially, power to the civilians, only to see the corrupt, inapt politicians ruining the country to the point of the military intervening again.

I strongly believe the Pakistani military, at least since Zia's death in 1988, wants to disengage from the internal politics of Pakistan. But time and again they were forced to--and they were NOT forced to intervene because the military's rather posh lifestyle was under threat--that was never the case. But when idiots like Nawaz Sharif wants to fight every military chief and declare himself 'Amir ul Momimoon' and when idiots Imran Khan wants absolute power for long term through co-opting his sympathizers in the military and when idiots like the Zardaris who just refuse to do even basic 'governance', then the country gets to a situation like we are seeing now and the military becomes openly involved, short of an outright Martial Law.

This recent declaration by the Army Chief is a strong signal for a very-guided 'hybrid' model of democracy, with the aim to bring Pakistan's economy on track again. The military is the real power in Pakistan and so foreign backers/well-wishers would pay more attention to Pakistan because they would know they would be dealing with the real-power in Pakistan going forward into at least next few years.
 
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all hail whisky munir hail , hail whisky munir, hail whisky munir. now asim munir will drink gau muttar whisky.

the arabs will lift their skirts and say lick my unshaven hairy halal oily balls, bakistani jenral.
 
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It is a vicious cycle in Pakistan: The military never allowed the civilians to be competent politicians and yet the military yielded, at least partially, power to the civilians, only to see the corrupt, inapt politicians ruining the country to the point of the military intervening again.

I strongly believe the Pakistani military, at least since Zia's death in 1988, wants to disengage from the internal politics of Pakistan. But time and again they were forced to--and they were NOT forced to intervene because the military's rather posh lifestyle was under threat--that was never the case. But when idiots like Nawaz Sharif wants to fight every military chief and declare himself 'Amir ul Momimoon' and when idiots Imran Khan wants absolute power for long term through co-opting his sympathizers in the military and when idiots like the Zardaris who just refuse to do even basic 'governance', then the country gets to a situation like we are seeing now and the military becomes openly involved, short of an outright Martial Law.

This recent declaration by the Army Chief is a strong signal for a very-guided 'hybrid' model of democracy, with the aim to bring Pakistan's economy on track again. The military is the real power in Pakistan and so foreign backers/well-wishers would pay more attention to Pakistan because they would know they would be dealing with the real-power in Pakistan going forward into at least next few years.



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