Army officer who tied youth to jeep in Kashmir gets clean chit; praised by court

[Dhara]

There is a KHALI -STHAN ( Empty Place ) in your head

Expected from you, don't derail the topic.
Khalistan means Land of Pure same like Pakistan both nations have same routes hence the same name.

 

[Logicaldude]

It was a very "colonial" way of securing a "good outcome".

It was. Not pretty.

Pakistan even destroys houses and markets in official reprisals in tribal areas. What is your opinion on that? That is truly colonial don't you think? @hellfire

https://www.dawn.com/news/1294376

 

[Dhara]

You see, if the gentleman actually was an IA officer, and ashamed at it, he would be the last to associate himself with it, provided was a self respecting one.

Now, the gentleman wants to highlight this point in every odd post of his, what does it indicate to you? Sad little proxy ...

Enjoy his claims nod and ignore.

Yes i am doing it intentionally to show real face of Indian forces who ordered officers to kill civilians for political gains.

 

[Hellfire]

Your sympathies should be with innocent Kashmiris and farmers who are committing suicides.
Women are being raped on roads while Gau-Rakshak and sang parivar busy in saving Cows instead of their women, you should systematize to all those.

I am feeling pity on you people despite you now Major did the wrong thing and should be punished, you people are trying hard to prove him Desh-Bakht, Shame Shame if you feel?

Nah. Still lies with you

You are talking to someone who has been on ground in Kashmir for longer than 99.9% people here (except Kashmiri members of valley proper). So, for me, you remain an entertainment at best, such a sad life.

As for you, I seriously have my sympathies. Sad life for you. Still flying an Indian flag, claiming to be an Indian Army Officer and yet deploring India.

How farcical and how desperate! Your acts do not match your claims ...

 

[third eye]

Expected from you, don't derail the topic.
Khalistan means Land of Pure same like Pakistan both nations have same routes hence the same name.

Routes to where ?

 

[Dhara]

@Dhara is fake. He could not even say who CO Of 3 Sikh in 1984.

I never said that I was court Martialed in 1987 as a young Major.

 

[Logicaldude]

How shamelessly a large proclaimed 'professional' organization like IA is defending these ruthless pigs in the Army who tied an innocent to their Army jeep making its way through the streets. If it was done in Pakistan by an Army Officer. No matter the tied person was a TTP Terrorist. He'd have been prosecuted for breach of Discipline.

That stirring speech about armed forces accountability would really make dr Baqir shah very happy.unfortunately he is dead

 

[Big Tank]

I agree

https://www.dawn.com/news/1283735

Exemplary punishment here.

Learn about the issue first. How can you compare this with tying an innocent to the Jeep?
It was a hassle between two State Institutions. High Patrol Operative took out his weapon upon the SSG Personnel, they were taken to the Police Station and threatened with serious consequences since the High Patrol guy had a General close in the Army. Later the SSG Operatives had to contact their Unit when the situation was out of control. Matter was although resolved and both sides were responsible for the aggression.

I EXPECTED SOME BETTER COUNTER TACTIC THOUGH

 

[Dhara]

There lies exposed a liar claiming to be from Indian Army. Took me 5 posts to bring him out.

Who told you that you exposed me Mr. Expert?
Ranting and false accusing exposed you and your armed forces since world caught your army pants down using human shield to protect their **** from unarmed civilians.

 

[Icarus]

And what is the non-colonial way? Air assaults in your towns and villages?

The non-colonial way is NOT tying civilians to military jeeps and parading them through towns. You don't need to be an expert to figure that out, maybe need a third of a disposable brain cell.

 

[Icarus]

But workable.

All parties went home safe n sound . Good junior leadership .

From a major's perspective, it obviously made sense. He is responsible for the security of his party and he ensured that but the greater ramifications of his actions serve to undermine India's narrative on Kashmir. We go back to the "Mad Colonel Hypothesis against tactical nuclear weapons", a battlefield commander may employ the most devastating weapon at his disposal to secure his AOR but in securing his AOR, he endangers the greater campaign and even the state by his actions.
The vehicles seem to be APCs and even the jeep has wire-mesh windows, even if faced with stone pelters, the convoy would have remained unscathed.

 

[The Eagle]

Keep crying sweetie. Your credibility is there for all to see.

If you have reservation w.r.t. any member that pretending to be etc or xyz, would be better to report as such in details with all proofs if any, at GHQ Section but discussing the same in open thread that too based upon another and totally different subject, is not plausible but the same results in trolling and derailing.

Thanks for your cooperation,

 

[Icarus]

It was. Not pretty.

Pakistan even destroys houses and markets in official reprisals in tribal areas. What is your opinion on that? That is truly colonial don't you think?

https://www.dawn.com/news/1294376

Very interesting question.

Yes, they do. I wouldn't say that's in keeping with the spirit of modern law and respect for property but it is the law of the land. The dynamics of the tribal society demand it. The tribes that support the PA had the same treatment meted out to them and so when they get the upper hand they want to repay in the same coin. However, it is pertinent to mention that it isn't a straight away affair that you enter and area and start knocking down structures, there's a codified procedure governing this entire practice.
Firstly, when an enemy territory is felled, their elder call for "naanawaati". They bring a lamb as a peace offering and secure a jirga.
Next, the jirga gives the elders the following options:

1. Join us, hand over the enemy hiding in your homes and you will not be disturbed.
2. Declare that you have no "waas (control)" over the enemy you sheltered and you will be given safe passage, houses will be felled.
3. Continue the fight.

The tribes that hand over militants hiding in their area do not see their houses and markets felled.

So its not entirely colonial as much as it is in accordance with local tribal code.

 

[The Eagle]

However, if you read the sequences of the posts, I simply destroyed his credibility as he claimed and his narrative

If you find that derailing, fair enough. But the gentleman has apparently tagged you and Icarus in this thread itself and I reciprocated and you may have also made out the farcial nature of this member.

I have been through all and understood well hence, told you precisely that how to report the same and I am sure, you know the reason.

 

[Icarus]

So in colonial way you tie to jeeps? I thought in colonial way an insurgent/terrorist/rebel would have been strung up at the nearest lamp post or flogged by Cat O nine Tails.

Is that a new definition of crowd control as per your CI/CT training? Hey, I am not the labelled counter terror expert here peddling a new theory.

Maybe you can use that third of disposable brain cell and educate us on the colonial way of CI/CT operations as per your book so that ignorants like us can learn?

I would be able to give a more satisfying answer if you were not foaming at the mouth like a lunatic.

I have been through all and understood well hence, told you precisely that how to report the same and I am sure, you know the reason.

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