Army checkpost in Waziristan attacked by Mohsin Dawar, PTM supporters

[Pakistansdefender]

Why didn't election commission disqualify these two bastards yet and banned the political party.

 

[Areesh]

TTP was a terrorists organization, funded by raw, so if he has demanded for operation against them it mean Mohsin is not on RAW payrol, actually he is working against their interest (RAW's interest).

buhahahahahahahahahaha

Is bholai badshah (kalia as per PTM) ko to check karo

 

[Haris Mansoor]

1- Typical 'my personal source' told me this and that nonsense !!. Tell us something new... And No, Balochistan Police and FC is not Army.

2- Good that you have toned down your rhetoric/propaganda a bit... Nothing wrong with asking for some sort of proof ... But the way you outright declared the DGISPR statement as 'total junk' and 'false propaganda' and then repeatedly alleged (without any proof of course) that LeA's carry out illegal activities in FATA ... If that's not maligning LeA's, I don't know what is... and BTW you provide IT services to what LeA?

3- Irrelevant.. Waiting for you to provide proof that the Army carries out illegal activities in FATA...

1- No "my personal source" is not related to this accident, that is general thing, Army controls FC, all commissioned officers are on rotation within army and FC.
2- No, I haven't toned down on my stance, I still believe that army is using its power on media to hide their crime. I am not on any level in PTM, if I had any connection with PTM I would ask them to add a judicial inquiry into this accident. I consider army repeatedly blaming PTM for treason without any proof. PTM doesn't wants to malign LEAs therefore they never asked for what happened before operation zarb-e-azb, All PTM demands are related to events after zarb-e-azb was announced to be successfully completed.
3- it is the base of this accident.

 

[Areesh]

. I consider army repeatedly blaming PTM for treason without any proof.
.

And what if I proved you with proofs that whatever PTM is doing and has done is treason then what?

PS: Unlike you I wont use my "sources"

 

[Haris Mansoor]

buhahahahahahahahahaha

Is bholai badshah (kalia as per PTM) ko to check karo

enough laughing now answer my question, if someone asks for strict action against RAW's funded terrorist, you will consider him on the payroll of RAW or ISI?

 

[M. Sarmad]

Okay you got me, I am not that smart, but where are you asking for proof? you are asking for proof from PTM, which are not allowed on national media?
Army blamed PTM that PTM attacked Army checkpost, proof?????? where is proof????

We are in the middle of an ongoing existential war, thousands of Army men have laid down their lives for the sake of motherland in this hybrid multi-front war so far. You really think that army should (or can) provide proof before retaliating to every single attack on them? 5 injured soldiers are not a 'proof' enough for you?

As for media coverage, with the amount of international media coverage PTM receives (for whatever reasons), do you really believe that they can be censored? or any aggression against them can go unnoticed?

1- No "my personal source" is not related to this accident, that is general thing, Army controls FC, all commissioned officers are on rotation within army and FC.
2- No, I haven't toned down on my stance, I still believe that army is using its power on media to hide their crime. I am not on any level in PTM, if I had any connection with PTM I would ask them to add a judicial inquiry into this accident. I consider army repeatedly blaming PTM for treason without any proof. PTM doesn't wants to malign LEAs therefore they never asked for what happened before operation zarb-e-azb, All PTM demands are related to events after zarb-e-azb was announced to be successfully completed.
3- it is the base of this accident.

Nothing in your post is worthy of a serious reply. You are just repeating the same nonsense over and over again.
Still waiting for you to provide proof that the Army carries out illegal activities in FATA.!!

 

[Areesh]

enough laughing now answer my question, if someone asks for strict action against RAW's funded terrorist, you will consider him on the payroll of RAW or ISI?

Just because he demanded action against TTP doesn't mean that one can't work for RAW or NDS or any other foreign hostile agency

Either you are actually that naive or want to act one deliberately. Pick your option.

 

[Haris Mansoor]

And what if I proved you with proofs that whatever PTM is doing and has done is treason then what?

PS: Unlike you I wont use my "sources"

"What PTM is doing" Chief of Army Staff acknowledged that PTM demands are legit, so no treason here.
Only treason could be if they get funding from RAW, prove it...
PCCC: I haven't quoted any source except from clarification that FC is also a part of Army, and I didn't presented "my source" as a proof, rather to explain the thing to you guys.

 

[Areesh]

"What PTM is doing" Chief of Army Staff acknowledged that PTM demands are legit, so no treason here.
Only treason could be if they get funding from RAW, prove it...
PCCC: I haven't quoted any source except from clarification that FC is also a part of Army, and I didn't presented "my source" as a proof, rather to explain the thing to you guys.

Bhai don't run away from my question. Even TTP and Altaf Hussain had some legit demands. Lets not hide behind demands and all that

I have asked you a very simple question

What if I prove you with proofs that PTM is indeed an anti Pakistan organization then what? Will you accept your mistake and apologize here for supporting this anti state organization?

 

[Haris Mansoor]

We are in the middle of an ongoing existential war, thousands of Army men have laid down their lives for the sake of motherland in this hybrid multi-front war so far. You really think that army should (or can) provide proof before retaliating to every single attack on them? 5 injured soldiers are not a 'proof' enough for you?

Yes we are in the middle of an ongoing existential war, imposed on us by a nation to whom we are biggest none nato allies, it doesn't implies that whatever Army says in its press release is true.

As for media coverage, with the amount of international media coverage PTM receives (for whatever reasons), do you really believe that they can be censored? or any aggression against them can go unnoticed?

yes PTM members denied any attack from their side, their story is "we were pushing through the check post to participate in a protest against arrest of some people, and suddenly we were under firing, no one in the protestors had weapons except for the bodygaurds provided by government to the MNA".
Now?

Nothing in your post is worthy of a serious reply. You are just repeating the same nonsense over and over again.
Still waiting for you to provide proof that the Army carries out illegal activities in FATA.!!

Nothing in this post is worth reply because I haven't asked anything in that specific post rather they are explanation to my questions asked earlier to which you didn't answered or you couldn't answered or you being a big head couldn't get it.

Bhai don't run away from my question. Even TTP and Altaf Hussain had some legit demands. Lets not hide behind demands and all that

I have asked you a very simple question

What if I prove you with proofs that PTM is indeed an anti Pakistan organization then what? Will you accept your mistake and apologize here for supporting this anti state organization?

Yes,

 

[Wa Muhammada]

So what’s the latest ?

 

[Areesh]

Yes,

I would create a separate thread for you tomorrow. I am in a bit of a hurry for now.

Lets discuss treason of PTM in a separate thread made specially for you

PS: I request mods not to ban you. We don't get much PTM supporters on this forum anyways

 

[M. Sarmad]

Yes we are in the middle of an ongoing existential war, imposed on us by a nation to whom we are biggest none nato allies, it doesn't implies that whatever Army says in its press release is true.

Read my post again, carefully. And try to respond to what I said

yes PTM members denied any attack from their side, their story is "we were pushing through the check post to participate in a protest against arrest of some people, and suddenly we were under firing, no one in the protestors had weapons except for the bodygaurds provided by government to the MNA".
Now?

So, You believe that whatever PTM members are telling (without any proof of course) is Gospel truth and the Pak Army is doing false propaganda... Talk about bias?

 

[Areesh]

Read my post again, carefully. And try to respond to what I said

Keep it easy. PTM boys normally don't have any answers or proofs

The whole movement is based on lies and racism

 

[Haris Mansoor]

I would create a separate thread for you tomorrow. I am in a bit of a hurry for now.

Lets discuss treason of PTM in a separate thread made specially for you

PS: I request mods not to ban you. We don't get much PTM supporters on this forum anyways

Thanks for consideration, I am in hurry too, had to get stuff for sehri.
I will be glade to know treason cases of PTM, because this will end my discussion with my dad, who is in defence services.
PS::: I am not a hard core supporter of PTM, I even falls in discussion with PTM supporter in a few scenario too. but I just can't let killing of 3 protestors go in the vain.

Read my post again, carefully. And try to respond to what I said

"You really think that army should (or can) provide proof before retaliating to every single attack on them? 5 injured soldiers are not a 'proof' enough for you?"
Nothing of this prove that PTM attacked the post.