Arms cache recovered from Karachi madrassa

[SandsofTime]

Islam = Religion of Peace. And yet, madrassas are very often also arms caches. Hummmmm. Is it possible that the "Ground Zero Mosque" would also be place where militants cached their arms? RoP = Islam = RoP. Something fishy going on .......

@TS
Having had the pleasure of reading some of your earlier posts, I must say something sounds fishy here. Are you trying to pull a "Solomon" here hoping to ignite a feeding frenzy, or is it just a bad attempt at sarcastic humor?

PS: @Solomon please don't take offense at my liberal use of your kind name

 

[Cheetah786]

what about ahmedinijad?? shia bhai

hammy2k=ham my y2k

excellent name you have chosen for yourself =Ham


Ahhhhhhhh my house of saud loving Terrorist wahabi friend why are you bringing ahmadinijad in this conversation.

 

[Lonewolf1453]

Finally someone who is waking up to arab imperialism / terrorism which is breaking our back. Todays islamism headed by arabis is nothing to be called "islam" it is rather "Mohammianism" which relies on imaginary heroification of islamic wars, importance of jihad and never ending tales of "invented" sunnah. When ever the wahabis wants to prove something, the magically discover a sunnah hidden deep somewhere in the books. The cult has gone so far that something was proved which outright conflicted with Islam.

I hope you have heard about some ridicolus ahadis and fatwas coming from arabian peninsula.

you sound like a munkere Hadith, one who denies the hadith???

I dont want to open a thread on this subject but im curious.

 

[somebozo]

you sound like a munkere Hadith, one who denies the hadith???

I dont want to open a thread on this subject but im curious.

Have you ever read the ahadis and fatwas I have called in question?? Sitting all the way in UK is not an excuse for ignorance.

I am surprised most of those demanding shariah in Pakistan hail from Europe who marry desperate white women out of convinence for "gora nationality" and escape to Pakistan with their teenage kids in the name of religion.

 

[SekrutYakhni]

Have you ever read the ahadis and fatwas I have called in question?? Sitting all the way in UK is not an excuse for ignorance.

I am surprised most of those demanding shariah in Pakistan hail from Europe who marry desperate white women out of convinence for "gora nationality" and escape to Pakistan with their teenage kids in the name of religion.

Mullahs have absolutely no right to give any kind of fatwa. The saviours of Islam are not mullahs.

 

[Durrak]

Finally someone who is waking up to arab imperialism / terrorism which is breaking our back. Todays islamism headed by arabis is nothing to be called "islam" it is rather "Mohammianism" which relies on imaginary heroification of islamic wars, importance of jihad and never ending tales of "invented" sunnah. When ever the wahabis wants to prove something, the magically discover a sunnah hidden deep somewhere in the books. The cult has gone so far that something was proved which outright conflicted with Islam.

I hope you have heard about some ridicolus ahadis and fatwas coming from arabian peninsula.

You neeed to check your words first.Anyhow if someone is providing fake hadees about something you need to check whether it is true or not expect blaming them.Mind your words when you talk about hadees

 

[somebozo]

You neeed to check your words first.Anyhow if someone is providing fake hadees about something you need to check whether it is true or not expect blaming them.Mind your words when you talk about hadees

Prophet never restrict anyone from questioning him, religion or his logic / ahadees. Even if some wanted to go against it?? What gives is that I am being preached to be a "mute" to prove a worthy muslim??

Debate and questioning enlightens the society.
Mute belives send it backward to stone age.

How did people address Prophet Muhammed back in the 640 A.D??

Why do we have to attached titles like His honourable, long live, royal highness when addressing the so called muslim kings??

Why so much importance attached to monarchy of one family over Islamic rules of election by opinion??

Madrasas might be the most valuable colonisation tools every invented and far more effective even than the English Church. The Europeans will look back in the past and call it one more of their marvellous invention! How we pushed a civilization of 1.2 billion followers into extinction without firing a shot or operating execution camps. Nazi's will be envious and Stalin will roll in his grave!

 

[greatsequence]

Are not we such a lay man? Bible has the verses of terror and humiliating the non believers just like Quran, admit it. You want me to quote it?
Bible has the verses of spreading peace just like Quran.

Anyways, there is a difference between a religion and followers. Religions which includes Bible asked people not to commit adultery yet they do. So, who is wrong? Bible or the follower? Holy Quran talks about killing non muslims but SCUM MULLAHS AND the people of outer world misinterpret it without looking the historical context of it.
If I were the scum mullah, I could take 100 guns to Madrassa--Does it mean that Islam taught us to kill others? Ohh yeah, I can back it up from different Islamic sources! Can that sources be justified?

You know, Bible changed over time and so did Quran (which Muslims are reluctant to admit) along with other Holy Scriptures. Abraham is common in our religion and so are other things. Still, we manage to exploit differences among us--that includes scum mullahs and people of your side--Everyone is evil in this game--No less, no more---

People deviate religion to their own benefit. Horses are halal in Central Asian states but not in Middle East. Why? This only leads to a one fact--Culture had an influence on religion and vice versa.

Madrassa can have political motives but does it mean that Islam is evil?

Holy Books are not evil, the followers are. Our religion talks about Virgin Mary and Jesus--There is a difference--Yeah, but isn't it enough to explore common good?

The only point here is----Muslims are evil? Islam is not---Islam is evil---There would not be any peaceful Muslims than OR you could see mass conversion in today's world---Christians are evil---Bible is not---

Books change over time and so do pteople.

You can simply say people are not following Islam. Saying Quran is changed is as good as saying that Islam does not exist anymore. Your defence of islam is indeed an attack on the very core of Islam.

 

[Sal-adin]

You can simply say people are not following Islam. Saying Quran is changed is as good as saying that Islam does not exist anymore. Your defence of islam is indeed an attack on the very core of Islam.

God promised in the Quran to protect and preserve the Quran.

[15:9] Absolutely, we have revealed the reminder, and, absolutely, we will preserve it.

 

[muse]

Friends

Has our understanding of Quran changed over time? Do we understand Quran in the same way as people had in the past? What I am asking is that we understand things based on our knowledge of the present and the past - and of course in different times, this knowledge of the present and the past is different - so, it would seem that our understanding changes, because the "lens", the training through which we understand Quran is different at different times, isn't this so?.

 

[SekrutYakhni]

You can simply say people are not following Islam. Saying Quran is changed is as good as saying that Islam does not exist anymore. Your defence of islam is indeed an attack on the very core of Islam.

Okay, so you are commenting against the nature. You think that Holy Quran cannot be changed---Change is 'pick and choose'?---God did say that no one can change the righteous book--Are we able to understand what God meant?---

You are not commenting against my view rather you are saying that change did not come over fourteen hundred years.

My defence--attack on Islam--really?

 

[greatsequence]

Friends

Has our understanding of Quran changed over time? Do we understand Quran in the same way as people had in the past? What I am asking is that we understand things based on our knowledge of the present and the past - and of course in different times, this knowledge of the present and the past is different - so, it would seem that our understanding changes, because the "lens", the training through which we understand Quran is different at different times, isn't this so?.

For Quran to be preserved. The language, meaning and the message has to be preserved. If any one of the above is not preserved it will be as good as distorted.

 

[SekrutYakhni]

Friends

Has our understanding of Quran changed over time? Do we understand Quran in the same way as people had in the past? What I am asking is that we understand things based on our knowledge of the present and the past - and of course in different times, this knowledge of the present and the past is different - so, it would seem that our understanding changes, because the "lens", the training through which we understand Quran is different at different times, isn't this so?.

Our understanding of Holy Quran has changed over time. After Prophet Muhammad (PIUH), khalifas had disagreements over Holy Quran--Hazrat Umar---Others--


Change does occur!!!!

 

[desiman]

Im waiting for Batman's reaction on this, let me guess - the weapons were planted by RAW and the policemen who raided the place were on Indian payroll lol just joking

 

[greatsequence]

Our understanding of Holy Quran has changed over time. After Prophet Muhammad (PIUH), khalifas had disagreements over Holy Quran--Hazrat Umar---Others--


Change does occur!!!!

Pure fiction. There was no disagreement between Khulafa. I dont know from where you are getting this. Please dont give khomeni as a source.