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Around 600 Turkish words are still used by local Arabs in Syria, in Egypt, furthermore Dr. Hussain al-Masri has recorded over 10.000's of Turkish words used by local people in 1976. Many other's have also been recorded by Dr. Hussain Ali Mahfuz in Iraq. In Algeria and Tunusia, Prof. Muhammed Shanab recorded over 400 words. Libyan author Ali al-Misrati also recorded a lot of Turkish words used by local Libyan Arabs in his article called "Libya-Turkey historical relations". Around 850 Turkish words are used by local people in Libya.
A very few for example:
English: Rice, Turkish: Pilav, Libyan: Blaw
English: Money, Turkish: Para, Libyan: Bara
English: Sergeant, Turkish: Çavuş, Libyan: Shavish
Osman is indeed a Turkified version of Arabic Uthman as like Mehmet but the name "Ottoman" is definitely not a western version of Arabic Uthman. Osman I, as like his father "Ertuğrul" Ertoghril Ghazi, had his Turkic name "Ataman".
I don't think I know more than Aziz Sancar himself.
I don't know your discussion with UKBengali and definitely don't care what Kuwaiti terrorist says but I felt I had to intervene those sentences of yours.
Where are the sources for those numbers? Also there is a huge difference between a few hundred words and an absurd number such as 30.000 which certainly never was the case. Nor do I know of any policy to remove any words of Turkic or any other origin. On the other hand the founder of Turkey removed the alphabet of the Turks of Anatolia (Ottoman Turkish alphabet) and changed 90% of the official vocabulary of Ottoman Turkish which was almost entirely of Arabic origin.
Modern Standard Arabic has likely only a few hundred (at most) words of Turkish origin. I am forced to repeat myself here again but Standard Arabic derives from Classical Arabic/Quranic Arabic which is one of the most conservative languages in the world. I do not know a single language, as widespread as Arabic (in the top 6 of most spoken languages in the world), who has changed as little for the past 1400 years as Standard Arabic has. Also Classical/Quranic Arabic has zero Turkish words as it predates Turkish language and Turkish presence in modern-day Turkey/Anatolia by centuries upon centuries.
Also as I wrote initially, there is no denying that Standard Arabic has absorbed a few hundred Turkish words (many who are originally of Arabic origin) and a few Arabic dialects but there is really no comparison when it comes to influence. Case in point being my previous post.
That's not what most sources say. Most sources, as I showed, agree that Ottomans are named after Osman I. Osman is a Turkic version of the Arabic Uthman. I don't see any connection with Ataman.
What people say in public is not necessarily the true. Media can twist things, politics are involved etc. Anyway I can only repeat myself. Why would a person with no ties to Arabs (apparently) speak Arabic with his parents as a child? Does this makes any sense in a country like Turkey where only Turkish Arabs speak Arabic as their native tongue? Even the younger generation only speaks Turkish, mostly, as their native language.
Moreover the region he is from is home to a sizable Arab community. Anyway I don't care what he is, just reporting what you can find on the internet and in the media. The point here was that there is a sizable NATIVE Arab Turkish community in Turkey. That community even predates Turkic migrations to modern-day Turkey.
Well, you are welcome to intervene. After all this is a forum. However my bed is calling so I will end it here.
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