Armenia 'genocide' row: Turkey recalls envoy to Germany after vote

[Arabian Stallion]

LOL - even if you are not an Arab you have an inferiority complex towards whites, that Arabs also have, and know nothing of economics/geopolitics in general.

I cannot help but comment on this tools post.

What are you blabbering about Bangladeshi? Arabs are not the ones who consume whitening creams. Your likes are. What inferiority complex are you talking about? How can Arabs, who created 3 of the 11 largest empires in human history, more than any other ethnicity in the top 15, whose lands gave birth to the earliest civilizations in human history and whose legacy and influence is only matched by very few people, have any "inferiority complexes"?

If that is the case what do we call your likes? Arabs ruled the Caliphate and most of the Muslim world from the very beginning and for 1000 years afterwards. No other Muslim and non-European people, expect for the very short-lived Mongol Empire, can compare. No other Muslim people has influenced Muslims as much as Arabs.

Arabs and Europeans are direct neighbors and Arabs are Caucasian people. Arabs were/are considered Mediterranean people by European racialists when racism was at its highest. We even cluster when it comes to DNA. Arabs influenced Spain, Portugal, Southern Italy, Malta, Cyprus, parts of Greece etc. profoundly. On almost every imaginable front. For instance almost 1/3 of all the Spanish and Portuguese vocabulary derives from Arabic. Arabs left 10 World UNESCO Heritage Sites in Spain alone.

If you want to see people with complexes you should take a look at how your countrymen behave in numerous Arab countries. Even those outside of the GCC. No need to add more.

Arabs in the UK for instance are at the highest food chain among all Muslim groups.

You should seek help for your Arab obsession. Maybe a beautiful Arab girl left you? Usually they don't fall for your likes but there are always exceptions, I guess. Or maybe you are butthurt because of a few instances involving Arabs and your people? Luckily enough a few racists among us don't represent all 450 million Arabs worldwide. Arabs and Bangladeshis have overall a good relationship that dates back a long time back and Bangladeshi users here on PDF who live in Arab countries can attest to this.

Now quit insulting Arabs or you will force me to write things that I prefer not to write. As far as I am aware @Kuwaiti Girl , whose is not of ethnic Arab origin (not everyone in the Arab world is an ethnic Arab) did not write any racial posts in return. Or at all in this thread.

Also you should not worry about Arabs. The GCC alone has a GDP (nominal) of almost 2 trillion dollar. Let alone the Arab world as a whole. In fact the Arab world will be the economic driving force in the Muslim world alongside with South Asia. We were historically the dominant people in the MENA region since millennia ago and that will continue as it does today.

@Falcon29 check this tool out bro.

 

[Kuwaiti Girl]

LOL - even if you are not an Arab you have an inferiority complex towards whites, that Arabs also have, and know nothing of economics/geopolitics in general.

I'm actually half English lol. Why should I feel inferior to my English half?

You clearly lost the plot and no longer have anything useful to add to this discussion.

Whenever a troll loses a debate, he/she resorts to childish antics, which is exactly what you're doing right now lol.

Ta ta.

None economist foresaw China taking over American economy in merely 2-3 decades, these self-proclaimed experts would laugh at your face if you told them of the Chinese prospects..

Does the IMF PwC CEPR etc, follow every single Turkish industrial development, the huge projects? The dams that generate tons of energy and bring water+green to desert ares in central Anatolia? The giant airpots, bridges, underwater highways connecting the continents? Have they travelled around Turkey to witness the municipal developments? Are they taking into account our future export Altay Tank deals? Our MPT-76 rifle deals, our Cobras, our TFX, or Ballistic Missiles? Have these guys lived in Turkey, i want to look at what they base their projections of before i take their word at truth value. Are they following scientific publishings of Turkish universities, how many engineers we produce yearly, what's their exact qualifications and competencies. How many graduates from Europe we recieve yearly, and how they impact the overall development of tech development. Is there a brain influx or are highly intelligent people still leaving the country?

They are taking simple economic outlook based on budgets and a specific years outcome, from those data they project one year into the future, which almost never is close to the reality. A team of specialist that's unable to foresee worldwide economic crisis isn't much reliable. You either have to find/consult a specific country expert or you have to follow the steps you can follow for the country. Data is mostly good for understanding current GDP rates

Actually, they did. Many economists correctly predicted the rise of China. In fact, most economists think the rise of China came way too late. A lot of them expected it to happen in the 90s instead.

 

[Zulkarneyn]

Many economists correctly predicted the rise of China. In fact, most economists think the rise of China came way too late.

Untrue, in the 80s and early 90s economists projected USA China GDP levels equate 3-4 decades later than reality.
Im wasting too much precious time and energy on a Pakistani forum. Just don't rely blindly on IMF numbers. Be a little critical, manipulation of GDP is easy by devaluing currency. The total production of a country is dependant on so many other things, these data cant take into account due to future production prospects and deals that's simply mathematically impossible to include.

 

[Kuwaiti Girl]

I cannot help but comment on this tools post.

What are you blabbering about Bangladeshi? Arabs are not the ones who consume whitening creams. Your likes are. What inferiority complex are you talking about? How can Arabs, who created 3 of the 11 largest empires in human history, more than any other ethnicity in the top 15, whose lands gave birth to the earliest civilizations in human history and whose legacy and influence is only matched by very few people, have any "inferiority complexes"?

If that is the case what do we call your likes? Arabs ruled the Caliphate and most of the Muslim world from the very beginning and for 1000 years afterwards. No other Muslim and non-European people, expect for the very short-lived Mongol Empire, can compare.

Arabs and Europeans are direct neighbors and Arabs are Caucasian people. Arabs considered Mediterranean people by European racialists when racism was at its highest.

If you want to see people with complexes you should take a look at how your countrymen behave in numerous Arab countries. Even those outside of the GCC. No need to add more.

Arabs in the UK for instance are at the highest food chain among all Muslim groups.

You should seek help for your Arab obsession. Maybe a beautiful Arab girl left you? Usually they don't fall for your likes but there always exceptions, I guess.

The irony is that he lives in the UK lol. I, on the other hand, proudly live in this part of the world, despite all its faults and despite the fact that I'm half British and can easily relocate to the UK.

And he also doesn't know anything about the Arab World's economic outlook. Saudi Arabia's GDP is expected to reach 1.8 trillion US dollars by 2030 according to the Centre for Economics and Business Research. PricewaterhouseCoopers thinks the Saudi GDP will be 2.0 trillion US dollars by 2030. In both cases, Saudi Arabia will have a larger economy than Turkey, and we're not even taking all of the GCC into account either.

Why on earth should an Arab feel inferior to Turks in the first place?

 

[KediKesenFare3]

Why on earth should an Arab feel inferior to Turks in the first place?

 

[Arabian Stallion]

The irony is that he lives in the UK lol. I, on the other hand, proudly live in this part of the world, despite all its faults and despite the fact that I'm half British and can easily relocate to the UK.

And he also doesn't know anything about the Arab World's economic outlook. Saudi Arabia's GDP is expected to reach 1.8 trillion US dollars by 2030 according to the Centre for Economics and Business Research. PricewaterhouseCoopers thinks the Saudi GDP will be 2.0 trillion US dollars by 2030. In both cases, Saudi Arabia will have a larger economy than Turkey, and we're not even taking all of the GCC into account either.

Why on earth should an Arab feel inferior to Turks in the first place?

Apparently certain people have personal problems and inferiority complexes. Nothing can be done about this until they grow out of it, I guess.

I don't know what he is blabbering about honestly. The GCC alone has an GDP (nominal) of almost 2 trillion dollars. It's basically one country and one single market despite lacking numerous political, social and economic reforms that could make things even better. This will of course eventually follow. That places us in the top 10 out of almost 200 sovereign nations.

Significantly bigger than 140 million big Russia, who has even more natural resources, and as much as 1.2 billion big India. Let's not even talk about the Arab world as a whole and its massive potential and current growth rates. Even the growth rates of Arab countries at war (Iraq for instance) are impressive.

Most importantly most of the economic growth is in the non-oil/gas/natural resources sector and is seen equally in non-oil/gas producing Arab countries as well as the main exporters of those resources.

Historically, since the first civilizations in the world appeared in the Arab world, this area of the world alongside China and India have been the richest historically. Here we are talking about realities in the past 6 millennia or so. Europe/West has only been the dominating factor for the past 500 years or so, expect for a few centuries during Roman rule. Half of the territories of the Roman Empire, including people, were ironically Arabs or our mostly Semitic ancestors. Evidence of the numerous Semitic and Arab Roman Emperors. Looking at a map of the Roman Empire at its greatest extent will tell this story very clearly as well.

One of them being this guy below:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_the_Arab

The Arab world, alongside with South Asia, will be the driving force in the Muslim world in terms of economic development. Looking at it historically, current situation, demographics etc. it makes perfect sense. I also suspect that Sub-Saharan Africa will eventually catch up as demographics alone will dictate this. A strong Sub-Saharan Africa will benefit the Arab world as we are located on the crossroads of the world between/on Africa, Asia and Europe.

Anyway let them cry. Historical and current realities speak for themselves.

That Bangladeshi talking smack about Arabs is almost equal to a Papuan talking smack about Arabs. You see the nonsense, laugh for a bit and then wonder what happened with him?

Anyway I have no horse in the topic of this thread. Just saw that you were active in this thread and took a look and after doing that I saw the tools post.

Lastly I most command you for keeping your cool despite all of the nonsense personal insults. We saw the true nature of some people. Good to know. It seems that people do not understand that you criticize everyone here whenever you feel this is appropriate, Arabs included as I can confirm lol, which I think is very healthy on a forum such as PDF that is otherwise dominated by empty nationalism.

 

[Zulkarneyn]

@Kuwaiti Girl i remember you said before you are half pakistani, now you are half British. How can you be Arabic?

 

[Kuwaiti Girl]

Apparently certain people have personal problems and inferiority complexes. Nothing can be done about this until they grow out of it, I guess.

I don't know what he is blabbering about honestly. The GCC alone has an GDP (nominal) of almost 2 trillion dollars. It's basically one country and one single market despite lacking numerous political, social and economic reforms that could make things even better. This will of course eventually follow. That places us in the top 10 out of almost 200 sovereign nations.

Significantly bigger than 140 million big Russia, who has even more natural resources, and as much as 1.2 billion big India. Let's not even talk about the Arab world as a whole and its massive potential and current growth rates. Even the growth rates of Arab countries at war (Iraq for instance) are impressive.

Most importantly most of the economic growth is in the non-oil/gas/natural resources sector and is seen equally in non-oil/gas producing Arab countries as well as the main exporters of those resources.

Historically, since the first civilizations appeared in the Arab world, this area of the world alongside China and India have been the richest historically. Here we are talking about realities in the past 6 millennia or so. Europe/West has only been the dominating factor for the past 500 years or so, expect for a few centuries during Roman rule. Half of the territories of the Roman Empire, including people, were ironically Arabs or our mostly Semitic ancestors. Evidence of the numerous Semitic and Arab Roman Emperors.

One of them being this guy below:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_the_Arab

The Arab world, alongside with South Asia, will be the driving force in the Muslim world in terms of economic development. Looking at it historically, current situation, demographics etc. it makes perfect sense. I also suspect that Sub-Saharan Africa will eventually catch up as demographics alone will dictate this. A strong Sub-Saharan Africa will benefit the Arab world as we are located on the crossroads of the world between/on Africa, Asia and Europe.

Exactly. Historically speaking, the largest economies in the world have almost always been China, India, and the Arab World. Arabs are known for being very business-oriented and entrepreneurial, second only to the Chinese / East Asians.

Even the alphabets we're using right now can be traced back to the Semitic-speaking Phoenicians.

And you're right about the GCC. The GCC already has a 1.6 trillion US dollar economy, with a population less than 50 million people, and a lot of land available for development. Moreover, this part of the world is extremely open to immigration. Most of the people around here are immigrants in fact. The UAE is a perfect example. And lately, the UAE has established a national tolerance program aimed at teaching young Emiratis to accept people from other faiths and racial backgrounds.

UKBengali was simply trying to wind me up instead of replying to the points I made. Very childish in my opinion.

@Kuwaiti Girl i remember you said before you are half pakistani, now you are half British. How can you be Arabic?

My father's family is originally from Iranian Balochistan -- not Pakistan lol. And my mum's from England.

I'm not ethnically Arab, but I'm a citizen of Kuwait. A lot of people in this part of the world come from non-Arab origins. That's what makes the Gulf region so special.

 

[Arabian Stallion]

Exactly. Historically speaking, the largest economies in the world have almost always been China, India, and the Arab World. Arabs are known for being very business-oriented and entrepreneurial, second only to the Chinese / East Asians.

Even the alphabets we're using right now can be traced back to the Semitic-speaking Phoenicians.

And you're right about the GCC. The GCC already has a 1.6 trillion US dollar economy, with a population less than 50 million people, and a lot of land available for development. Moreover, this part of the world is extremely open to immigration. Most of the people around here are immigrants in fact. The UAE is a perfect example. And lately, the UAE has established a national tolerance program aimed at teaching young Emiratis to accept people from other faiths and racial backgrounds.

UKBengali was simply trying to wind me up instead of replying to the points I made. Very childish in my opinion.

Exactly.

Look at the 30-40 million big Arab diaspora in Latin America. It's one of the most successful diasporas in all of Latin America. Numerous presidents, prime ministers, scientists, poets, writers, intellectuals, entertainers and some of the richest business families in Latin America are of Arab origin.

Case in point being the second richest man in the world, Carlos Slim Helu. Shakira another example. Salma Hayek another.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Slim

https://ngcco.wordpress.com/2013/03...-america-has-had-8-presidents-of-arab-origin/

Ask any Latin American, in particular in Brazil and Argentina, and he will tell you the same. We had an Brazilian user here on PDF who did so as well. He even made a thread about it as he was of Arab origin himself.

Or take a look at the likewise successful Arab diaspora in South East Asia which numbers around 10 million people in Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore etc. Mostly of Yemeni/Hijazi origin. Hadhrami in particular.

Let Indonesian brothers such as @Indos tell the story themselves.

Or the Arab legacy in Sub-Saharan Africa, in particular the Swahili coastline (itself an Arab word). For instance the second richest African is half Yemeni and half Ethiopian but a citizen of KSA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammed_Hussein_Al_Amoudi

Or the 3.5 million big Arab-American diaspora. The largest Muslim diaspora in the US.

Doing much better than the average in the US.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Americans

Arabs in numerous Arab European countries, for instance UK, Spain and Germany, are also doing really well by large.

All despite most of the Arab refugees (at least in the past 20 years) being the poorest of us all and mostly war refugees from Palestine, Lebanon, Iraq etc. Now Syria but Syrians will always survive and have done so wherever they have migrated so I am not worried about them.

In France for instance they often confuse Berbers (Kabyle) with Arabs. Ethnic Arabs, whether from Sham or North Africa are doing better than most Muslims in France as well.

Anyway this is not solely about the GCC which amounts to 6 Arab countries out of over 20 Arab countries.

Don't forget that GCC countries are not democracies yet, have many moronic laws in place that hinder economic growth, in particular KSA which is a G-20 Major economies member state, that there is no taxation (impossibly anywhere else in the world), that we have some of the youngest populations in the world, that we will not lack manpower and that we are located strategically between Africa, remaining Asia and Europe. Or that we are already the largest remittance market in the world after the US. We will always attract workers, investment etc. I cannot imagine of how the situation would look like if what I mentioned above was solved and some of the ills that could quickly be solved by a few rule changes alone.

Arabia, much of the remaining Arab world, were already KEY trade centers MILLENNIA before oil was even discovered. The Greeks and Romans called half of Arabia for Arabia Felix (Happy Arabia) due to its riches and Alexander the Great's main aim, aside from reaching India, was to conquer that part of the world however all the campaigns of his successors and predecessors failed.

But let that Bangladeshi individual (his country is smaller than most of the 13 provinces in KSA alone and overpopulated, mostly swamp etc.) Iive in his own little planet for all I care. Always under the dominance of India or now China. 170 million (!) people but a 33% smaller economy than 90 million big Egypt. Anyway the truth must be told and the ignorants must be educated whether they want this to occur or not, lol. I will now let that Bangladeshi and his friends continue with their butthurt. "Evil and dangerous Arabs" will leave.

 

[Zulkarneyn]

Seriously guys you got an Arab subforum, use that one, it remains inactive

 

[Kuwaiti Girl]

Exactly.

Look at the 30-40 million big Arab diaspora in Latin America. It's one of the most successful diasporas in all of Latin America. Numerous presidents, prime ministers, scientists, poets, writers, intellectuals, entertainers and some of the richest business families in Latin America are of Arab origin.

Case in point being the second richest man in the world, Carlos Slim Helu. Shakira another example. Salma Hayek another.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Slim

https://ngcco.wordpress.com/2013/03...-america-has-had-8-presidents-of-arab-origin/

Ask any Latin American, in particular in Brazil, and he will tell you the same. We had an Brazilian user here on PDF who did so as well. He even made a thread about it as he was of Arab origin himself.

Or take a look at the likewise successful Arab diaspora in South East Asia which numbers around 10 million people in Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore etc. Mostly of Yemeni/Hijazi origin. Hadhrami in particular.

Let Indonesian brothers such as @Indos tell the story themselves.

Or the Arab legacy in Sub-Saharan Africa, in particular the Swahili coastline (itself an Arab word). For instance the second richest African is half Yemeni and half Ethiopian but a citizen of KSA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammed_Hussein_Al_Amoudi

Or the 3.5 million big Arab-American diaspora. The largest Muslim diaspora in the US.

Doing much better than the average in the US.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Americans

Arabs in numerous Arab European countries, for instance UK, Spain and Germany, are also doing really well by large.

All despite most of the Arab refugees (at least in the past 20 years) being the poorest of us all and mostly war refugees from Palestine, Lebanon, Iraq etc.

In France for instance they often confuse Berbers (Kabyle) with Arabs. Ethnic Arabs, whether from Sham or North Africa are doing better than most Muslims in France as well.

Anyway this is not solely about the GCC which amounts to 6 Arab countries out of over 20 Arab countries.

Don't forget that GCC countries are not democracies yet, have many moronic laws in place that hinder economic growth, in particular KSA which is a G-20 Major economies member state, that there is no taxation (impossibly anywhere else in the world), that we have some of the youngest populations in the world, that we will not lack manpower and that we are located strategically between Africa, remaining Asia and Europe. Or that we are already the largest remittance market in the world after the US. We will always attract workers, investment etc. I cannot dream of how the situation would look like if what I mentioned above was solved and some of the ills that could quickly be solved by a few rule changes alone.

Speaking of Brazil, the new Brazilian president (Michel Temer) is an Arab. He's originally from Lebanon.

Steve Jobs, the founder of Apple, was a Syrian Arab. Carlos Slim, the richest person in the world from 2010 to 2013, is an Arab as well.

And let's not forget all the famous Arab scientists and philosophers of the Islamic Golden Age.

But wait, none of that means anything because you lot supposedly feel inferior to the likes of Adnan Oktar.

In the coming decades, most countries around the world will be competing to attract migrants from sub-Saharan Africa since Africans will have the highest birthrates worldwide and, consequently, the largest working-age population.

I don't know about you, but I'm pretty sure these economic migrants will choose the Arab World over other areas due to its geographic proximity and the cultural similarities.

 

[Arabian Stallion]

Speaking of Brazil, the new Brazilian president (Michel Temer) is an Arab. He's originally from Lebanon.

Steve Jobs, the founder of Apple, was a Syrian Arab. Carlos Slim, the richest person in the world from 2010 to 2013, is an Arab as well.

And let's not forget all the famous Arab scientists and philosophers of the Islamic Golden Age.

But wait, none of that means anything because you lot supposedly feel inferior to the likes of Adnan Oktar.

In the coming decades, most countries around the world will be competing to attract migrants from sub-Saharan Africa since Africans will have the highest birthrates worldwide and, consequently, the largest working-age population.

I don't know about you, but I'm pretty sure these economic migrants will choose the Arab World over other areas due to its geographic proximity and the cultural similarities.

I have no problem with Turkey or Turks whatsoever. Or any people for that matter. Only with those who have a problem with Arabs. Anyway Arabs ruled half of today's Turkey for some 500 years (Rashidun, Umayyad and Abbasid Caliphates) and Arabs (our mostly ancient Semitic ancestors as well) and Turks, previously Anatolians (in particular) as well, have had long mutual ties. There are many similarities aside from geographic proximity (neighbors), similar cuisines etc. For instance most of the population of the Ottoman Empire who have a 400 year old presence in the Arab world, only half of it though, was Arab and Arab language and culture influenced Turkey a lot. Even to this day, despite Ataturk's reforms, Arabic words form the greatest amount of foreign words in the Turkish language. Whenever I see written Turkish I see many Arabic words for instance. The name Ottoman derives from Osman which derives from Uthman. The Third Caliph.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uthman

Not to mention that there is a significant Turkish-Arab minority. One of the largest in Turkey in fact. 1.5-2 million big or so. Excluding the Syrians migrants currently of course who will probably go back to Syria once peace emerges there.

For instance apparently Erdogan's wife is an Turkish-Arab and so is this guy below apparently.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emine_Erdoğan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aziz_Sancar

A compatriot here on this forum @Full Moon told that he visited Istanbul last year and was driven around by a Turkish Arab taxi driver that he had hired from Adana or nearby areas who apparently spoke an ancient Arabic dialect close to Northern Syrian/Northern Mesopotamian and by default Najdi.

Otherwise I fully agree with your remaining post. Don't forget our Afro-Arab community which is 10-15 million big or so. Most have integrated well into Arab society. I am sure the same is the case in Kuwait.
As have Baloch people whom we have had ancient ties with since you appeared in history. In fact there has been an Arab migration to the Makran coast and thus Baluchistan as well.

Arabia has always welcomed and absorbed migrants.

Naturally this is where the tide will be going although currently most of them are using Arab countries as stop stations to reach neighboring Europe. Anyway I believe that mostly Horners and immediate Sahel countries will be relevant. I doubt that the "deep" Sub-Saharan Africa will follow suit but it's difficult to tell. I will vote for more female Habesha migrants for sure!

Anyway what happened with our Bangladeshi friend? Did he disappear?

 

[bsruzm]

despite Atatürk's reforms Arabic words form the greatest amount of foreign words in the Turkish language.

I can't say the same thing about Arab's as over 30.000 Turkish words have been officially removed from Arabic language after the collapse of Ottoman Empire. Some are still spoken despite removal such as "belki" in Syria, "çevirme" in general.

The name Ottoman derives from Osman

Ottoman derives from Ataman, Osman I's Turkic name. Osman Ghazi was girt with the sword of Islam (Uthman the third caliph) by his mentor and father-in-law Sheikh Edebali.

so is this guy below.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aziz_Sancar

"When asked as to whether he is "Arab or half Turkish" by the BBC, Aziz Sancar responded: "I told them that I neither speak Arabic nor Kurdish and that I was a Turk," he said. "I'm a Turk, that's it."."

"In an interview, Sancar stated that in his youth, he was a nationalist, attending local meetings of the Grey Wolvesorganization, which is affiliated with the Turkish nationalist political party MHP"

 

[Arabian Stallion]

I can't say the same thing about Arab's as over 30.000 Turkish words have been officially removed from Arabic language after the collapse of Ottoman Empire. Some are still spoken despite removal such as "belki" in Syria, "çevirme" in general.

Ottoman derives from Ataman, Osman I's Turkic name. Osman Ghazi was girt with the sword of Islam (Uthman the third caliph) by his mentor and father-in-law Sheikh Edebali.


"When asked as to whether he is "Arab or half Turkish" by the BBC, Aziz Sancar responded: "I told them that I neither speak Arabic nor Kurdish and that I was a Turk," he said. "I'm a Turk, that's it."."

"In an interview, Sancar stated that in his youth, he was a nationalist, attending local meetings of the Grey Wolvesorganization, which is affiliated with the Turkish nationalist political party MHP"

I highly doubt that Arabic ever contained 30.000 Turkish words. I would be surprised if the number even surpassed 3000. Here I am talking about any Arabic dialect. That seems as an absurd number to me. In fact I am absolutely certain that it is a nonsense claim. Standard Arabic is a very conservative language and practically no other language, for the past 1400 years, has been as conservative linguistically as Arabic and that is due to the influence of the Noble Qur'an and thus Classical Arabic. As far as I am aware of nobody removed any Turkish words. The few words in Arabic that derive from Turkish have remained the same in the various Arabic dialects. Classical Arabic has no Turkish loanwords that I am aware of as it predates modern-Turkish by centuries. Long before what is today Turkey even began speaking Turkish.

I hope you realize that Ottoman Turkish derived over 2/3 of its vocabulary from Arabic. It was written in the Arabic alphabet too. The influence was much, much, much greater the other way around. No comparison, really. Arabs did not change their alphabet or formal language (Ottoman Turkish). Moreover most of the Persian loanwords were themselves originally of Arabic origin. To this day Arabic words form 40% of the vocabulary of Persian.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Turkish_language

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Turkish_alphabet

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_replaced_loanwords_in_Turkish

Situation today:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influence_of_Arabic_on_other_languages

"The word Ottoman is a historical anglicisation of the name of Osman I, the founder of the Empire and of the ruling House of Osman (also known as the Ottoman dynasty). Osman's name in turn was derived from the Persian form of the name ʿUthmānعثمان of ultimately Arabic origin. In Ottoman Turkish, the empire was referred to as Devlet-i ʿAliyye-yi ʿOsmâniyye(دَوْلَتِ عَلِيّهٔ عُثمَانِیّه),[20] (literally "The Supreme State of the Ottomans") or alternatively Osmanlı Devleti (عثمانلى دولتى).[dn 5] In Modern Turkish, it is known as Osmanlı İmparatorluğu ("Ottoman Empire") or Osmanlı Devleti ("The Ottoman State")."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_the_Ottoman_Empire

Osman is a Turkified version of the original Arabic name Uthman. Mehmet is likewise a Turkified version of the original Arabic Muhammad.

If Aziz Sancar, has no connection to the Turkish Arab community, last time I saw Turkish Arabs are Turkish as in citizens of Turkey as well as any other ethnicity, why did he grow up speaking Arabic? Strange for a non-Arab/person with no connection to Arabs, to grow up speaking Arabic with his parents in Turkey. He was likewise born in regions of Turkey that are home to ethnically Arab people.

Anyway, as I wrote, I have no problem with Turkey or Turks whatsoever or any other people, only those who have a problem with Arabs. Moreover if you read this discussion, my posts were aimed at the Bangladeshi troll (who has been trolling Arabs for far too long without anyone countering him) and aside from that I just had a discussion with @Kuwaiti Girl . Nor do I have any opinion about the topic of this thread as I have not studied it. Take care.

 

[bsruzm]

I would be surprised if the number even surpassed 3000.

Around 600 Turkish words are still used by local Arabs in Syria, furthermore in Egypt, Dr. Hussain al-Masri has recorded over 10.000's of Turkish words used by local people in 1976. Many other's have also been recorded by Dr. Hussain Ali Mahfuz in Iraq. In Algeria and Tunusia, Prof. Muhammed Shanab recorded over 400 words. Libyan author Ali al-Misrati also recorded a lot of Turkish words used by local Libyan Arabs in his article called "Libya-Turkey historical relations". Around 850 Turkish words are used by local people in Libya.

A very few for example:

English: Rice, Turkish: Pilav, Libyan: Blaw
English: Money, Turkish: Para, Libyan: Bara
English: Sergeant, Turkish: Çavuş, Libyan: Shavish

Osman is a Turkified version of the original Arabic name Uthman. Mehmet is likewise a Turkified version of the original Arabic Muhammad.

Osman is indeed a Turkified version of Arabic Uthman as like Mehmet but the name "Ottoman" is definitely not a western version of Arabic Uthman. Osman I, as like his father "Ertuğrul" Ertoghril Ghazi, had his Turkic name "Ataman".

If Aziz Sancar

I don't think I know more than Aziz Sancar himself.

Well, I don't know your discussion with UKBengali and definitely don't care what Kuwaiti terrorist says but I felt I had to intervene those sentences of yours. Goodnight.