Arjun News & Discussions

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Awwww... we never knew you cared so much!!

Now you know we do!

 

[flaming arrow]

Arjun's development pace sure was slow but the product we have today is a potent machine,DRDO though late has revived a much criticised so called failed project just like aakash,naag. i will wait for the final report on arjun to come out by the end of this month,after that we all will be in a much better position to say how good it was on the field and what all parametres were set before it to be called worthy enough on to be inducted in more numbers,lets see what's coming in the mk2 pacakage

 

[Frankenstein]

Anyways I think we need to wait till the official confirmation of the news

Yes we do, if you give respect to others only then u will gain respect or else its the other way around

 

[Indian-Devil]

Although its passed the performance objectives but still, we should wait for official confirmation from Army, how many more tanks it want. We all want to see more Arjun in IA.

But one thing is clear, whether its inducted in more nos or not but deff. it will give boast up to DRDO to build next generation tank by the exp. they have gained from Arjun Tank.

 

[Merilion]

I will help...the Arjun even after meeting all the laid objectives...isn't going to be inducted as it would only be another parallel tank to the T-90S in the IA...which already has been inducted in large numbers...
The Arjun is a very good tank but it's shelf-life has been hampered by the delay...had it been inducted in 2000...we'd have bought 600-700 of them...but it'd be retired around 2020-2025..so instead the better thing is to develop a more futuristic tank that can be delivered by 2020 and serve till 2050...
the future is the only thing going against the Arjun...
it's a good thing that they have perfected the tank..now it's be easier to prepare for the markII...which has all the chances of being inducted...

how many T90s have already been inducted in the IA?
how many T90s are going to be inducted in the IA?
why not stop inducting those T90s not yet to be inducted and replace the number with Arjun?

 

[LCA Tejas]

how many T90s have already been inducted in the IA?
how many T90s are going to be inducted in the IA?
why not stop inducting those T90s not yet to be inducted and replace the number with Arjun?

We have already signed contract for 1000 T-90's.... and Arjun is extra, but army dosent want two MBT's of the same class..

 

[Merilion]

Although its passed the performance objectives but still, we should wait for official confirmation from Army, how many more tanks it want. We all want to see more Arjun in IA.

But one thing is clear, whether its inducted in more nos or not but deff. it will give boast up to DRDO to build next generation tank by the exp. they have gained from Arjun Tank.

if u dont induct large number Arjuns u will have significant less feedbacks from the field on the tank and those feedbacks are vital important for any future improvement designs.

 

[Merilion]

We have already signed contract for 1000 T-90's.... and Arjun is extra, but army dosent want two MBT's of the same class..

if it's for national interests i dont see why cannot reduce the 1000 T90s contract to at least half to make a room for arjun. IA shd know this better than anyone i guess.

 

[LCA Tejas]

if it's for national interests i dont see why cannot reduce the 1000 T90s contract to at least half to make a room for arjun. IA shd know this better than anyone i guess.

No, thats not possible, how can u break a contract??? And moreover,its not right to move from whats promised.... India army will Get Arjun, but not more thn 200-300 for sure, because IA wants Arjun MK2

 

[flaming arrow]

Although its passed the performance objectives but still, we should wait for official confirmation from Army, how many more tanks it want. We all want to see more Arjun in IA.

But one thing is clear, whether its inducted in more no's or not but deff. it will give boast up to DRDO to build next generation tank by the exp. they have gained from Arjun Tank.

DRDO had already worked upon the tank-ex which has the turret of arjun with slope armour and the chassi of the t-72,it ws whn the army ws crying foul that the arjun cannot be carried by by IL 76 coz of its width,the new generation tank will be revolving somewhere around it if DRDO is to deliver the mk2 on urgent basis.they have the technology knowhow,little of what has been ever talked about is the isreali angle in the arjun project,to proove that arjun has overcome all its problems the DRDO had used third party assesment of the tank,the third party was isreali,and they were impressed by it,to go further thier is a lot of equipment onboard it which is isreali,most known of all is the LAHAT,i can tell you what all is in it but then again i have no source to proove it,but it will be foolish to discard it saying its junk as almost all our pakistani and chinese friends always state....still from a good discussions point of view arjun is already on the field 124 to come in first batch with two armoured regiment already raised 73rd n 43rd(correct me if iam wrong)..keeping aside fanboy talks an army proffesional as PA knows the odd and will be meticuluosly planning for a strategy.Also the Indian army is know for seeking for perfection,guys please don't forget the so called AKASH & NAG were termed a huge failure,bt DRDO kept on removing te glithches and see the great numbers with which they are inducting it,this goes to show that though late we reach what we aim for,arjun mk1 still has lacks few things which are onboard t-90 like T-90 has a remotely operated gun station on it, the Arjun currently lacks it. The crew has to come out and be exposed to enemy small arms fire to be able to use the machine gun on the turret.all this can come on mk2 version.there is always a scope for improvement

 

[paritosh]

if it's for national interests i dont see why cannot reduce the 1000 T90s contract to at least half to make a room for arjun. IA shd know this better than anyone i guess.

It's complicated Merilion....you are right about the national interest thing...
but here's what happened...
the IA waited for the Arjun to be ready during the entire 90s decade...and had the bulk of armor comprising of upgraded T-72s...against Pakistan's T-80UDs..the T-72's didn't even have a/cs...!

the security of the country couldn't have been compromised for long...
the T-90s were developed by Russia...were a highly developed tank based on the T-72s which we already operated...so we ordered for 300 of them waiting for the Arjun to show up...
the aRmy loved the tank...and contracts were placed for more...that is exactly why the Arjun is despised by the army...even though it performs...
the army now has 600 T-90s...can't go for a similar tank..when there is a contract already placed...

 

[paritosh]

CHECK THIS OUT...Tank EX

A ground-hugging T-72 body with an Arjun turret...this tank has a future...

 

[sancho]

A ground-hugging T-72 body with an Arjun turret...this tank has a future...

The problem is the cost or? As far as I read it in the several Arjun threads here, the T90 are clearly cheaper, so even if the Arjun turret would be a good upgrade for old T72s, the question is how costly would this be and what are the alternatives?
Raythion wants to offer IA a possible upgrade and no doubt that the Israelis will offer similar too, will be interesting to see if IA is ready to spend possibly more for indigenous parts.

 

[Rain]

a tank gone down in trial is much better thn the one tht goes down in war.
btw does AK has remotely contolled secondry guns?

 

[zeus]

out of 3000+ tanks we need to replace almost all tanks with new ones ,T-55 and T-72 are still have huge numbers in india ,T-90 (1000) and Arjun (300) and some T-72 with Arjun turret (500) will form new Tank force ,we will have Arjun-MKII and T-XX