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I doubt it being export there are far better tanks in the markets and even now ia needs armour while 80% of its tanks are blind at night
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Arjun tank to fight for survival, Ajai Shukla probes the decision to buy T-90
08 Feb 2010 8ak: India's Arjun tank will battle for its life against a squadron of Russian T-90s in comparative trials next month. The test results will be crucial as it is likely to determine the controversial vehicle's future which is in jeopardy after the army has refused to buy more than the 124 Arjun tanks. The stated reason was that the army is not happy with the performance of the DRDO developed tank.
The development of indigenous Arjun tanks commenced almost three decades ago. The Indian Army laid down its qualitative requirement for the Arjun in 1972. In 1982, it was announced that the prototype was ready for field trials. However, the tank was publicly unveiled for the first time only in 1995 after the government had spent US$72 million on the project.
The 24th Infantry Division stationed in Bikaner will conduct the trials in the rugged deserts of the northern state of Rajasthan, around the cities of Bikaner, Suratgarh and also Pokhran, the site of India's first nuclear bomb test in May 1974. As many as 14 Arjun tanks will be pitted against the equal number of Russian T-90s during the trials.
Senior army officials revealed to 8ak that the tests were being conducted to determine the role Arjun can play in the security of India and also to assess the strong and weak areas of the tank. He further added that officials of DRDO would be present during the test to find out the areas where the performance of Arjun can be enhanced. The DRDO had handed over 16 tanks to the Indian Army last year, completing one regiment of 45 tanks. The regiment was then subjected to conversion training and field practice.
The Arjun measures just under 33 feet long and 12 feet wide. Armor is a Kanchan steel-composite sandwich development. A 1,400 horsepower diesel engine gives it an operational range of 280 miles with a speed of 45 mph on roads and 25 mph cross-country. The 120mm rifled main turret gun can fire the LAHAT anti-tank missile. Secondary armaments are a MAG 7.62mm Tk715 coaxial machine gun and an HCB 12.7mm AA machine gun.
The tank was meant to supplement and eventually replace the Soviet-era T-72 MBT that was first inducted in the early 1980s. However, delays in the Arjun project and Pakistans decision to purchase the T-80 from Ukraine, prompted India to order 310 T-90s, an upgraded version of the T-72, in 2001.
The test is the last chance for DRDO to instil life into the Arjun program, which it says would be economically feasible only if the army ordered 500 tanks. If the performance of the tank is up to the set parameters there is a strong possibility that the army will be forced to order more Arjun tanks. On the other hand, a poor performance will certainly seal the fate of the Arjun program and kill DRDO's hopes of providing Indian army a indigenous set of tanks.
And a must read article from Ajai Shukla basically saying that decision makers took out critical parts of the T-90 tank to make it appear comparable in price to the Arjun, so that the government could continue to buy Russian. The biggest battle it seems for the Arjun is not to prove its battle worthiness, rather to fight entrenched power players! Not that 8ak wants to glorify the Arjun beyond its capabilities. Informed sources tell us that Arjun faces such serious flaws that it cannot reach border areas in times of conflict. The issues they say (unconfirmed by 8ak) are that the filter needs changing every 5kms in desert/dusty conditions, the tank is too heavy for transportable bridges and too wide to be transported on India's railways.
Arjun tank to fight for survival, Ajai Shukla probes the decision to buy T-90
08 Feb 2010 8ak: India's Arjun tank will battle for its life against a squadron of Russian T-90s in comparative trials next month. The test results will be crucial as it is likely to determine the controversial vehicle's future which is in jeopardy after the army has refused to buy more than the 124 Arjun tanks. The stated reason was that the army is not happy with the performance of the DRDO developed tank.
The development of indigenous Arjun tanks commenced almost three decades ago. The Indian Army laid down its qualitative requirement for the Arjun in 1972. In 1982, it was announced that the prototype was ready for field trials. However, the tank was publicly unveiled for the first time only in 1995 after the government had spent US$72 million on the project.
The 24th Infantry Division stationed in Bikaner will conduct the trials in the rugged deserts of the northern state of Rajasthan, around the cities of Bikaner, Suratgarh and also Pokhran, the site of India's first nuclear bomb test in May 1974. As many as 14 Arjun tanks will be pitted against the equal number of Russian T-90s during the trials.
Senior army officials revealed to 8ak that the tests were being conducted to determine the role Arjun can play in the security of India and also to assess the strong and weak areas of the tank. He further added that officials of DRDO would be present during the test to find out the areas where the performance of Arjun can be enhanced. The DRDO had handed over 16 tanks to the Indian Army last year, completing one regiment of 45 tanks. The regiment was then subjected to conversion training and field practice.
The Arjun measures just under 33 feet long and 12 feet wide. Armor is a Kanchan steel-composite sandwich development. A 1,400 horsepower diesel engine gives it an operational range of 280 miles with a speed of 45 mph on roads and 25 mph cross-country. The 120mm rifled main turret gun can fire the LAHAT anti-tank missile. Secondary armaments are a MAG 7.62mm Tk715 coaxial machine gun and an HCB 12.7mm AA machine gun.
The tank was meant to supplement and eventually replace the Soviet-era T-72 MBT that was first inducted in the early 1980s. However, delays in the Arjun project and Pakistans decision to purchase the T-80 from Ukraine, prompted India to order 310 T-90s, an upgraded version of the T-72, in 2001.
The test is the last chance for DRDO to instil life into the Arjun program, which it says would be economically feasible only if the army ordered 500 tanks. If the performance of the tank is up to the set parameters there is a strong possibility that the army will be forced to order more Arjun tanks. On the other hand, a poor performance will certainly seal the fate of the Arjun program and kill DRDO's hopes of providing Indian army a indigenous set of tanks.
And a must read article from Ajai Shukla basically saying that decision makers took out critical parts of the T-90 tank to make it appear comparable in price to the Arjun, so that the government could continue to buy Russian. The biggest battle it seems for the Arjun is not to prove its battle worthiness, rather to fight entrenched power players! Not that 8ak wants to glorify the Arjun beyond its capabilities. Informed sources tell us that Arjun faces such serious flaws that it cannot reach border areas in times of conflict. The issues they say (unconfirmed by 8ak) are that the filter needs changing every 5kms in desert/dusty conditions, the tank is too heavy for transportable bridges and too wide to be transported on India's railways.
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No rethink on Arjun tank: DRDO chief
The Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) dispelled apprehensions that there was a question mark over the capability of the indigenously manufactured Arjun tank.
Speaking at a press conference here on Saturday, DRDO chief V.K. Saraswat dismissed reports that the tank was undergoing yet another series of revaluations vis-À-vis the Russian T-90 main battle tanks.
Dr. Saraswat said that half of the 124 tanks ordered by the Army had already rolled out, and there was no rethink about their induction. The comparative evaluation referred to in media reports was nothing but a trial of the tank’s role in the overall arsenal of the Army. “It is a normal process of identifying the role the tank will play in the plans,” he said.
“Let me make it clear, that these are not evaluation trials of the Arjun tank, as those trials, including in summer and winter months, are over and more than 50 per cent of the tanks have now rolled out of the factory for induction.”
Dr. Saraswat also refuted criticism about the performance of made-in-India INSAS (Indian Small Arms System) rifles. He said there were no niggles in the INSAS rifle, a standard issue to the infantry and the paramilitary forces, and felt the complaints, if any, must be local in nature. The feedback from the Army indicated that the troops were satisfied with the rifle.
He said the integration of avionics and sensors on a Brazilian plane to produce an indigenous “eye-in-the-sky” was proceeding apace. The modifications of the Embraer aircraft to fit the surveillance systems were “in fairly good shape” and the AWACS (Airborne Warning and Control System) could be ready for tests in two years, he said.
No rethink on Arjun tank: DRDO chief
this is the exact mentality that lead to the failure of Agni-3.
this is the exact person who claimed india's anti-missile tech is better than China's when india didn't have any mid course anti missile and does not have any target missile that can be used for such test.
this is the exact person who claimed india's anti-missile tech is better than China's when india didn't have any mid course anti missile and does not have any target missile that can be used for such test.
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this is the exact mentality that lead to the failure of Agni-3.
this is the exact person who claimed india's anti-missile tech is better than China's when india didn't have any mid course anti missile and does not have any target missile that can be used for such test.
hail King Tr.... did u read the heading No rethink on Arjun tank: DRDO chief
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i dont know about arjun as not a tank man but there shouldn't be any complains against INSAS its made on israeli design which intern is a highly modified and improved ak47 , now the main advantage of INSAS and its israeli counterpart is that they SHOULD not go wrong or must be Glitch free and they do not involve any rocket science to make that some thing will go wrong so i think on that issue i am with DRDO that any problems might be local one rather then some thing being wrong with the rifle , it should be a very potent Gun if its made the way it should be .
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this is the exact mentality that lead to the failure of Agni-3.
this is the exact person who claimed india's anti-missile tech is better than China's when india didn't have any mid course anti missile and does not have any target missile that can be used for such test.
the best post of the thread irrespective of topic..the only thing he see is the india defense section..and copy paste some troll from notepad files to the thread...
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so that means after 4 decades of R&D India is going to induct 124 Arjun tanks? and then finish the project?
Are they planning to induct any other indegineous tank in the future? I mean after Arjun tanks are you going to just buy more tanks from Russia or they planning to go for another indegineous tank in the future?
Are they planning to induct any other indegineous tank in the future? I mean after Arjun tanks are you going to just buy more tanks from Russia or they planning to go for another indegineous tank in the future?
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New Delhi, Feb 27 (PTI) The Army is likely to soon place a repeat order for 124 indigenous 'Arjun' Main Battle Tanks from DRDO as troops have expressed satisfaction over the armoured vehicle's performance in desert terrain in Rajasthan.
"A repeat order of another 124 Arjuns is expected from the Army soon, as it is satisfied with the tanks' performance," a senior DRDO official said here today.
The new order would be a follow-on to the 124 Arjuns ordered by the Army in 2004, of which the Avadi-based Heavy Vehicles Factory (HVF) has already supplied 45 to comprise an armoured regiment.
The regiment has now taken out the tanks to the desert in Rajasthan for conversion trials and reports from the troops reaching the Army headquarters say the combat vehicles were doing extremely well, the official said.
"The repeat order is necessary to keep the production lines in Avadi running.
New Delhi, Feb 27 (PTI) The Army is likely to soon place a repeat order for 124 indigenous 'Arjun' Main Battle Tanks from DRDO as troops have expressed satisfaction over the armoured vehicle's performance in desert terrain in Rajasthan.
"A repeat order of another 124 Arjuns is expected from the Army soon, as it is satisfied with the tanks' performance," a senior DRDO official said here today.
The new order would be a follow-on to the 124 Arjuns ordered by the Army in 2004, of which the Avadi-based Heavy Vehicles Factory (HVF) has already supplied 45 to comprise an armoured regiment.
The regiment has now taken out the tanks to the desert in Rajasthan for conversion trials and reports from the troops reaching the Army headquarters say the combat vehicles were doing extremely well, the official said.
"The repeat order is necessary to keep the production lines in Avadi running.
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