Arjun MK-II user trials kicked off in Rajasthan

[kurup]

Arjun firing Lahat

 

[skysthelimit]

Rifled gun has more accuracy (Under same condition) and better penetration power. Look at the evolution of Guns, rifling the barrel was stepping stone in accuracy and penetration.

Can't agree with this part -
1. For the long and high-speed projectiles that are the modern tank rounds, the spin imparted by rifling will provide only limited additions to accuracy. This is especially true for the APFSDS - which are fin-stabilized and thus don't need to be spinned.
2. Rifling is only useful with HESH rounds, but there accuracy is not a very important factor - as HESH is used mostly against fortifications and buildings.
3. And smoothbore guns have much lower barrel wear, so needs much less maintenance than rifled guns.

That's why most modern tank guns made the move from rifled to smoothbore - except the Birts and us.

the main feature of ARJUN tank is its capability of firing on move, the whole tank has been built on this feature. They added air suspension to provide proper stability on three axis to enable better accuracy for firing on the move, but none of these so called army specialists even point it out on the show. The main reason for the weight increase is this feature, but then our so called specialists do not even speak a word on this

ARJUN has 4 crew and that is how army wanted it. Any engineer will point out that with the increase in the number of crew the size and so the weight will increase accordingly. And none, i mean none of the hosts point it out. What are these guys afraid of, may be the russi lobby or some envelopes passed under the desk???

But I still agree with your other point - Arjun is a superb MBT, can compete with the best in the market. But we keep on ordering T90s 'cos DRDO doesn't pay bribes

 

[Anurag Rathore]

Man on this forum people are only fanboys..........they keep on abusing u without providing any information,and no one admits that we are importing all the components indivisually and just assembling it

The chai-biscuit organisations like drdo need to be privatised

Then they call themselves senior
I have a new id here i knw many senior members i was blocked
i shfted to chd with new ip adress and neww id

 

[sardar1987]

Can't agree with this part -
1. For the long and high-speed projectiles that are the modern tank rounds, the spin imparted by rifling will provide only limited additions to accuracy. This is especially true for the APFSDS - which are fin-stabilized and thus don't need to be spinned.
2. Rifling is only useful with HESH rounds, but there accuracy is not a very important factor - as HESH is used mostly against fortifications and buildings.
3. And smoothbore guns have much lower barrel wear, so needs much less maintenance than rifled guns.

That's why most modern tank guns made the move from rifled to smoothbore - except the Birts and us.


But I still agree with your other point - Arjun is a superb MBT, can compete with the best in the market. But we keep on ordering T90s 'cos DRDO doesn't pay bribes

Definitely man,,,,these trials are just a hogwash,in the end ******* army will be happy with even blind t-72 than arjun

Then they call themselves senior
I have a new id here i knw many senior members i was blocked
i shfted to chd with new ip adress and neww id

The thing is the so called seniors have provided me 0 links to address my questions
Now i am a man of reasoning,,,,,how the heel can u dispute that rafale has weak engines,,negligible supercruise ability at mach 1.2,a puny aesa with just 850 t/r modules but still costs 100 million!!!

All for spectra and ddm??

 

[Anurag Rathore]

The comparison comment was for rathore. everybody on this forum will agree arjun should be given precedence over t90.

everyone admits u said that but see our army
mk2 future is not sure that it will have mass production
instead IA is going for t90 prove me wrong now
u call me fan boy i still rember the thread when u were a newwbie and the thread was of dassult rafale i hink i dnrt knw exactly

 

[Anurag Rathore]

Definitely man,,,,these trials are just a hogwash,in the end ******* army will be happy with even blind t-72 than arjun



The thing is the so called seniors have provided me 0 links to address my questions
Now i am a man of reasoning,,,,,how the heel can u dispute that rafale has weak engines,,negligible supercruise ability at mach 1.2,a puny aesa with just 850 t/r modules but still costs 100 million!!!

All for spectra and ddm??

what tosat now
no doubt it is good plane but overpriced

 

[surya kiran]

everyone admits u said that but see our army
mk2 future is not sure that it will have mass production
instead IA is going for t90 prove me wrong now
u call me fan boy i still rember the thread when u were a newwbie and the thread was of dassult rafale i hink i dnrt knw exactly

You were here when I was a newbie and I was on a dassault thread? You must be smoking something

 

[sardar1987]

You were here when I was a newbie and I was on a dassault thread? You must be smoking something

Yaar lets stop this infighting and focus on facts......pls,,,,,we are all deshbakhts

What do u say on my take on rafale radar?

 

[Super Falcon]

it is still tooo much heavy to my likeing

 

[sardar1987]

it is still tooo much heavy to my likeing

Of course its not for ur liking as its too good and before commenting on weight kindly see the weight of

1)abrams

2)merkava

3)leopold

4)challanger

then we will talk..............all the tanks having 4 man crew have weight above 60 tonnes at least

 

[Killswitch]

I still dont understand why the ERA isnt symmetrical on the turret. Very odd looking and an obvious weak spot.

 

[sardar1987]

I still dont understand why the ERA isnt symmetrical on the turret. Very odd looking and an obvious weak spot.

i think we still haven't seen full model yet.........these pictures are not of production model