Are we going to see a rupture between Turkey and Europe even Nato soon.

[TurkeyForever]

Not to underestimate you, I have read (a little) about Turkish history and their mighty army, but.

They wont have the second biggest army but without Turkey NATO would still be a formidable force to fight one country.
You remember Iraq bro?

Besides, who do you think will come for your help?

Already mentioned who would come to aid us in a war, it includes you

Iraq is different, Turkey would be worse than vietnam for any invader and we have already proven it in the past so I'll let history speak for itself.

Just look at the recent demonstrations in Turkey, people are dying to see some action.

Last time I saw such action by the people was with hitler:

Do not under estimate the fingers that have become a fist.

 

[shhh]

I think the following will join us without thinking twice:
Bosnia
Albania
Azerbeycan
Qatar

Do you think, that these countries have the fire power (or the guts) to fight multiple nuclear powers?

Pakistan

Well we have sent PAF to aid our brothers before, we can send PN (but that isn't particularly good at the moment ).
But we probably wouldn't be able to send tanks or stuff, because you know, we are not right next to you.
And our leaders are not exactly Pro-Muslim. You better not rely us

But in such a war against the west, Russia will dive in to seize the opportunity as well, because it knows it would become the new super power if it beats the US.

Russia's entry will turn it into a nuclear Armageddon soon and then Russia is not a country to trust either.

 

[TurkeyForever]

There would be no nukes, because that means Russia and China getting involved.

It would be without nukes, if you been to the west lately you probably know how the average civilian is, they can't fight a war. They got good armies, but majority of their people are not soldier material.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

What is it that bothers them so much? What is it that they can't get from us? What is it that Turkey doesn't want to give to them? If you ask me, they must be feeling MAD about the fact that the Turkey of now is not the same silent, yes nodding, easy to please, obedient Turkey of the past. They really try hard to pressure Turkey into a corner.

Democracy, Free Press, No Dictator, No Death Penalty.
Support for Human Rights.

Not much really.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Let them try, I have the feeling Turkey won't be figting them alone, it will be like world war 1 with many muslim countries pooring in to help Turkey in the fight.

This is because all the muslim countries know, that if Turkey falls so do they, we are like the guardians of the muslim border.

Is this a joke??

Already mentioned who would come to aid us in a war, it includes you

Iraq is different, Turkey would be worse than vietnam for any invader and we have already proven it in the past so I'll let history speak for itself.

Just look at the recent demonstrations in Turkey, people are dying to see some action.

Last time I saw such action by the people was with hitler:

Do not under estimate the fingers that have become a fist.

I can see that you are just trollingD

 

[TurkeyForever]

Is this a joke??

Ask your leaders ghost from world war 1:

We meet genius people very rarely in centuries. It is so unlucky that, in this century that great genius person belongs to the Turkish Nation.

The centuries rarely produce a genius. Look at this bad luck of ours, that great genius of our era was granted to the Turkish nation.

D. Lloyd George, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom

UNLUCKY

I can see that you are just trollingD

I'm not trolling, hitler rally was the first thing I could think of when I saw that event in Istanbul.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Who you think will join you?
There are no Muslim countries that can actually take on NATO.



Its not even about the "interests" brother. They will continue to hate you until you accept their .... ideology.

Let them get out of NATO first

Ask your leaders ghost from world war 1:

We meet genius people very rarely in centuries. It is so unlucky that, in this century that great genius person belongs to the Turkish Nation.

The centuries rarely produce a genius. Look at this bad luck of ours, that great genius of our era was granted to the Turkish nation.

D. Lloyd George, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom

UNLUCKY

What are you even talking about ? Our main target in WWI was mainly European 'white' Germany and it's formidable fighting machine. Since we didn't want to see another challenger to our superpower status back then, close to our doors.
Interests have no race per se

 

[Deliorman]

@TurkeyForever .... all that energy our country and our nation has now to fight and become stronger should be put not into going to a war with the whole Western World but into improving ourselves, get stronger, get self- sufficient, develop economically, technologically, get more educated, more efficient, get smarter.
Only that way our country will become a country to fear, a country that can project it's powers abroad both financially, culturally.... or even militarily. I know that most Turks right now probably feel some kind of an adrenalin rush but we should try to think more, to be more cold blooded and try to use this energy into becoming stronger.

I don't think we have the power to challenge the West right now when we are so exposed to their attacks of any kind and when we are so much dependent on other countries. So before looking for a fight we should also know our strengths and especially our weaknesses. That's why I hope Turkey becomes self- sufficient on the military field and becomes a big producer of all kinds of weaponry and technology. This way at least we will have some big toys to make them think twice before thinking about hitting us.

 

[XenoEnsi-14]

I'm not trolling, hitler rally was the first thing I could think of when I saw that event in Istanbul.

Of all the rallies, you could only think of Darth Vader. That's kind of insidious don't you think?

 

[TurkeyForever]

@TurkeyForever .... all that energy our country and our nation has now to fight and become stronger should be put not into going to a war with the whole Western World but into improving ourselves, get stronger, get self- sufficient, develop economically, technologically, get more educated, more efficient, get smarter.
Only that way our country will become a country to fear, a country that can project it's powers abroad both financially, culturally.... or even militarily. I know that most Turks right now probably feel some kind of an adrenalin rush but we should try to think more, to be more cold blooded and try to use this energy into becoming stronger.

I don't think we have the power to challenge the West right now when we are so exposed to their attacks of any kind and when we are so much dependent on other countries. So before looking for a fight we should also know our strengths and especially our weaknesses. That's why I hope Turkey becomes self- sufficient on the military field and becomes a big producer of all kinds of weaponry and technology. This way at least we will have some big toys to make them think twice before thinking about hitting us.

Good points I agree with you, I'm just angry at how some EU countries treat as like dirt and we just take it like some dog.

They are the ones attacking us, it's not the other way around, even if it's verbal attacks.

We need to punish the countries that don't respect us, maybe stop doing business with such countries all together so they know we are serious.

You have little austria attacking us for days now, and our politicians just keep taking it like some prostitute.

Of all the rallies, you could only think of Darth Vader. That's kind of insidious don't you think?

 

[shhh]

Let them get out of NATO first

Because they are not submissive anymore?

 

[XenoEnsi-14]

Because they are not submissive anymore?

When was Turkey ever the submissive type?

 

[shhh]

When was Turkey ever the submissive type?

They were treated like slaves before, this has changed since Edrogan came into power.

That is the precise reason west attempted the coup there.

 

[Deliorman]

Good points I agree with you, I'm just angry at how some EU countries treat as like dirt and we just take it like some dog.

They are the ones attacking us, it's not the other way around, even if it's verbal attacks.

We need to punish the countries that don't respect us, maybe stop doing business with such countries all together so they know we are serious.

You have little austria attacking us for days now, and our politicians just keep taking it like some prostitute.

Patience, patience and patience. That's all we need. Keep our minds clear, think straight and don't forget who our enemies are. Learn from others and try to get bigger and stronger while trying to beat your enemy without even having to shoot a single bullet. At the end the right moment comes to hit back stronger and take what is yours. Showing emotions is the worst thing you can do in a game of cards so chill. That's the art of war.

 

[XenoEnsi-14]

They were treated like slaves before, this has changed since Edrogan came into power.

That is the precise reason west attempted the coup there.

Look, just because we enslaved Pakistan, doesn't mean Turkey was also weak and could be enslaved too. Please don't infect Turkey.

If Turkey was weak and a slave then Gulen wouldn't have ran away with his tale between his legs. He abandoned his fellow roaches, when the food supply finally ran short they do what roaches always do, scatter and cause temporary panic.