***Are RUSSIANS playing DOUBLE Game with INDIA ??***

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***Are RUSSIANS playing DOUBLE Game with INDIA ??***

Please read this & Have your say..Because we Citizens know least about the Things that Happens Behind Diplomatic Door....

1. Russia and china are finalizing deal for sale of Su-35.

2. China has a large fleet of Su-30MKK and have reversed engineered older Su-27K and have named them J-11.

3 . China Earlier had Reversed Engineered SU-27 and Later Sukhoi SU-33 still Russia supplies them Advance Engines & Missiles..

4 . Russia never raised Objection on Sale of RD-93 Engines to PAKISTAN, supplied by it to CHINA For J-17 fightercraft..

5. Russia has always made India dance to its tune,
prime examples are of refusal to give India TOT on T-90 Gun barrel where India is forced to use older Gun barrel of T-72 tanks.

6. Even tires for IAF’s Sukhoi Su- 30mki fleet comes from Russia, since they refuse India to source it from Indian companies.

7. India on the other hand funded many of the technology which are been used by their forces, prime examples are Mig-29K which was first ordered by Indian Navy and after production line was set up from Indian funds, Russian navy went ahead ordered Mig-29K for its own use, abandoning any further development of Su-33, it current
naval aircraft’s.Russian air force also has ordered Su-30SM which is a Variant based on Su-30MKI which India had funded.

8. India even in Joint ventures like BrahMos had to complete with Russian systemshurting its export potential, India had to enter into Joint venture with Russia on keyproject like MTA and PAKFA on Russian terms, with limited or no contribution from Indian side.

9. Indians were in negotiation with Kremlin from 2001 itself for developing PAK-FA but deal was signed only in 2007, where India was forced to agree upon 50% Investment in the project & India's role was just limited to Avionics development & system integration & they never provided access to Engine development Saturn AL-41F.

Source - Indian Defence Review

https://www.facebook.com/TheIndianArmyFans/posts/582335498490736?comment_id=89663208&offset=0&total_comments=13&notif_t=feed_comment

As we know Russia will need China against Americans . Worried that India will be left out ! Leave our defence deal with russians for a while . Is it not a matter of Concern for New Delhi ? Stupid Corrupt Congressi spoiled all the good things India Had ....

 

[T90TankGuy]

Stop posting facebook threads as a source .

 

[faisal6309]

***Are RUSSIANS playing DOUBLE Game with INDIA ??***

Please read this & Have your say..Because we Citizens know least about the Things that Happens Behind Diplomatic Door....

1. Russia and china are finalizing deal for sale of Su-35.

2. China has a large fleet of Su-30MKK and have reversed engineered older Su-27K and have named them J-11.

3 . China Earlier had Reversed Engineered SU-27 and Later Sukhoi SU-33 still Russia supplies them Advance Engines & Missiles..

4 . Russia never raised Objection on Sale of RD-93 Engines to PAKISTAN, supplied by it to CHINA For J-17 fightercraft..

5. Russia has always made India dance to its tune,
prime examples are of refusal to give India TOT on T-90 Gun barrel where India is forced to use older Gun barrel of T-72 tanks.

6. Even tires for IAF’s Sukhoi Su- 30mki fleet comes from Russia, since they refuse India to source it from Indian companies.

7. India on the other hand funded many of the technology which are been used by their forces, prime examples are Mig-29K which was first ordered by Indian Navy and after production line was set up from Indian funds, Russian navy went ahead ordered Mig-29K for its own use, abandoning any further development of Su-33, it current
naval aircraft’s.Russian air force also has ordered Su-30SM which is a Variant based on Su-30MKI which India had funded.

8. India even in Joint ventures like BrahMos had to complete with Russian systemshurting its export potential, India had to enter into Joint venture with Russia on keyproject like MTA and PAKFA on Russian terms, with limited or no contribution from Indian side.

9. Indians were in negotiation with Kremlin from 2001 itself for developing PAK-FA but deal was signed only in 2007, where India was forced to agree upon 50% Investment in the project & India's role was just limited to Avionics development & system integration & they never provided access to Engine development Saturn AL-41F.

Source - Indian Defence Review

https://www.facebook.com/TheIndianArmyFans/posts/582335498490736?comment_id=89663208&offset=0&total_comments=13¬if_t=feed_comment

As we know Russia will need China against Americans . Worried that India will be left out ! Leave our defence deal with russians for a while . Is it not a matter of Concern for New Delhi ? Stupid Corrupt Congressi spoiled all the good things India Had ....

You know what? Facebook sources are mostly unreliable.

 

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Source - Indian Defence Review

Any ways the given details are facts and can be confirmed rght ?

 

[Hafizzz]

Are RUSSIANS playing DOUBLE Game with INDIA ??

^^^Everyone loves to play double game with India !

India needs to be wary of US double game
India needs to be wary of US double game - The New Indian Express

The revelation that the US struck a deal with Pakistan in 2004 that allowed both countries to cherry-pick the terrorists they would target points to the duplicitous role played by Washington in its war against terror. American double standards have truly assumed serious proportions. Disclosures that the Americans agreed not to bomb Pakistani terror camps that were being used against India in Pak-occupied Kashmir indeed make shocking reading. The implication is that when it comes to terror against India, the US is willing to look the other way for the benefit of Pakistan but when its own strategic interests are involved it can be completely ruthless. Ultimately, India will have to learn to stand on its feet and use its own deterrence rather than depending on others like the US to fight its diplomatic battles.

The waiver issued by the Obama Administration earlier this year, second in a period of six months, that allows for the sale of major defence equipment to Pakistan is another example of why India should be wary of American twists and turns in policy. The State Department justified the latest waiver on the basis that security assistance was important to the national security interests of the US and was a critical component of US efforts to continue to build a strong, mutually beneficial relationship with Pakistan. Significantly, the second waiver came within a fortnight of Secretary of State John Kerry taking the reins of US diplomacy. This may be a mere coincidence but considering the apprehensions that had been expressed in India when Kerry’s name was announced this could well be the ‘tilt’ that India feared.

New Delhi should take serious note of the US mollycoddling of Pakistan, in spite of the fact that the latter is fast degenerating into a rogue state. It should increase pressure on Washington and its allies to drop the selective approach toward terrorism. While so much lip service is paid to Indo-US strategic ties, the Americans cannot get away by calling us ‘special friends’ while going out of the way to ingratiate themselves to Islamabad by bending rules to favour them.

 

[Abingdonboy]

UTTER NONSENSE.


-The Russians categorically ruled of selling the MIG-29K sale to China.

-The SU-35S sale is purely speculative and nothing concrete has come out of her and probably never will.


- Russia is partnering INDIA in the PAK-FA project.

- the "tyre issue" for the MKIs is a storm in a tea cup that has actually been sorted out long back. Indian companies supply tyres for the MKI and MIG-29.


-the SU-30MK2 of the PLAAF are far superior to the MKIs.


-it seems This fool has purposely omitted certain key info. Whilst India's role in the PAK-FA is limited, India's role in the FGFA will be significant. Lessons and industrial benefits from the LCA project will be applied by HAL on the FGFA.


- most of the issues this fool has raised have been addressed.


- what super-sonic cruise missile does Russia jointly produce with China?




IDRW have outdone themselves again. Leads me to believe they have definetly been bought by someone. One doesn't have to be a genius to figure out who would benefit from India turning away from India as a weapon's supplier.

 

[Abingdonboy]

^^^Everyone loves to play double game with India !

India needs to be wary of US double game
India needs to be wary of US double game - The New Indian Express

The revelation that the US struck a deal with Pakistan in 2004 that allowed both countries to cherry-pick the terrorists they would target points to the duplicitous role played by Washington in its war against terror. American double standards have truly assumed serious proportions. Disclosures that the Americans agreed not to bomb Pakistani terror camps that were being used against India in Pak-occupied Kashmir indeed make shocking reading. The implication is that when it comes to terror against India, the US is willing to look the other way for the benefit of Pakistan but when its own strategic interests are involved it can be completely ruthless. Ultimately, India will have to learn to stand on its feet and use its own deterrence rather than depending on others like the US to fight its diplomatic battles.

The waiver issued by the Obama Administration earlier this year, second in a period of six months, that allows for the sale of major defence equipment to Pakistan is another example of why India should be wary of American twists and turns in policy. The State Department justified the latest waiver on the basis that security assistance was important to the national security interests of the US and was a critical component of US efforts to continue to build a strong, mutually beneficial relationship with Pakistan. Significantly, the second waiver came within a fortnight of Secretary of State John Kerry taking the reins of US diplomacy. This may be a mere coincidence but considering the apprehensions that had been expressed in India when Kerry’s name was announced this could well be the ‘tilt’ that India feared.

New Delhi should take serious note of the US mollycoddling of Pakistan, in spite of the fact that the latter is fast degenerating into a rogue state. It should increase pressure on Washington and its allies to drop the selective approach toward terrorism. While so much lip service is paid to Indo-US strategic ties, the Americans cannot get away by calling us ‘special friends’ while going out of the way to ingratiate themselves to Islamabad by bending rules to favour them.

Please, the US does this with everyone. No one in India is under any illusions. Did India give their largest defence deal in history to the US? Has India allowed US firms to subvert its nuclear liability laws?


At the same time, has Pakistan got a civilian nuclear deal from the US like India's??


India isn't as stupid/ignorant as you'd like to make out.

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

Aor vote do white girl sona gandhi ko
Even our zardari is better than her ...

 

[he-man]

^^^Everyone loves to play double game with India !

India needs to be wary of US double game
India needs to be wary of US double game - The New Indian Express

The revelation that the US struck a deal with Pakistan in 2004 that allowed both countries to cherry-pick the terrorists they would target points to the duplicitous role played by Washington in its war against terror. American double standards have truly assumed serious proportions. Disclosures that the Americans agreed not to bomb Pakistani terror camps that were being used against India in Pak-occupied Kashmir indeed make shocking reading. The implication is that when it comes to terror against India, the US is willing to look the other way for the benefit of Pakistan but when its own strategic interests are involved it can be completely ruthless. Ultimately, India will have to learn to stand on its feet and use its own deterrence rather than depending on others like the US to fight its diplomatic battles.

The waiver issued by the Obama Administration earlier this year, second in a period of six months, that allows for the sale of major defence equipment to Pakistan is another example of why India should be wary of American twists and turns in policy. The State Department justified the latest waiver on the basis that security assistance was important to the national security interests of the US and was a critical component of US efforts to continue to build a strong, mutually beneficial relationship with Pakistan. Significantly, the second waiver came within a fortnight of Secretary of State John Kerry taking the reins of US diplomacy. This may be a mere coincidence but considering the apprehensions that had been expressed in India when Kerry’s name was announced this could well be the ‘tilt’ that India feared.

New Delhi should take serious note of the US mollycoddling of Pakistan, in spite of the fact that the latter is fast degenerating into a rogue state. It should increase pressure on Washington and its allies to drop the selective approach toward terrorism. While so much lip service is paid to Indo-US strategic ties, the Americans cannot get away by calling us ‘special friends’ while going out of the way to ingratiate themselves to Islamabad by bending rules to favour them.

meanwhile in pakistan

 

[kurup]

-the SU-30MK2 of the PLAAF are far superior to the MKIs.

Is it so ???

 

[onionkiller]

no country wil give india that technolgy which russia is giving. just remember it. russia is india's true friend.

 

[SRP]

UTTER NONSENSE.

-the SU-30MK2 of the PLAAF are far superior to the MKIs.

IDRW have outdone themselves again.

MKI is inferior to MK-2????

Don't blame IDRW.org. They are doing a pretty good job. They are just copy pasting articles. Yes you can question them when the source is IDRW news network(INN). And the source given by OP is FB page and mentioned by him as Indian Defence Review and IDRW is Indian Defence Research Wing. Big difference. Hope you get it.

 

[Parul]

Russkie ploxie lyudi. Ne stoit im doveryat. (Evil Russians )

 

[he-man]

Russkie ploxie lyudi. Ne stoit im doveryat. (Evil Russians )

@Flamingo

now u can write in other language,,,hain!!

but u had difficult time in translating pakfa pamphlet............u evil thing

 

[SRP]

Russkie ploxie lyudi. Ne stoit im doveryat. (Evil Russians )

What?? You changed your country to Finland?? Why this kolaveri di?