Are NRIs trying to please their foreign masters by their comments on Devyani Khobragade ??

[Kurama]

what would a poverty stricken aids infested indian know about american hospitality? have you ever lived here?
american hospitality is indeed the best.
why couldn't this diplomat just pay the maid?
at least give her minimum wage!!!
why lie on a application?

Ya I can understand the hospitality pakistani get in USA, a country where they are ashamed and feared of being called pakis, they call themselves Indian when asked about their country..How many time you have told so - you are indian???
Maid was Indian employee working for indian government, she will get what Indian government decides. And if wage was so low for a maid she would not joined her service. no body has forced her.
And about lying, go ask your diplomats and government, how much they are paying to their maids and what is contractual. And also It's not all clear what the contract was, It' s already in news that the contract was misquoted and misunderstood .

 

[Sashan]

How about this idiot Swapan Dasgupta not realize that many NRIs' opinions are formulated by what they have seen in their life where they had the opportunity to experience issues related to labor in two different countries instead of just a show of patriotism?

1. By seeing how many of their countrymen - H1B and other professionals were abused by their employers(who again were mostly Indians) especiallly in 1990s and early 2000s and realize how the Indian bodyshoppers have been breaking the laws when compared to the American companies.
2. By coming to a hard realization how labor is expensive here in US and had to do the work themselves which has brought in a new respect for the labor community who were taken for granted before?
3. Realize that the students who come from various countries including India had to work part-time and depend on the minimum wages and the tips(in case of restaurant and bar work) to sustain them over here and many places abuse these students by underpaying them.
4. They themselves were able to sustain the American standards of living as the companies they work pay for pay the market prices but see that their fellow Indians working for Indian outsourcing companies barely get by with their expenses and sometimes two or three families share apartments

 

[qamar1990]

Ya I can understand the hospitality pakistani get in USA, a country where they are ashamed and feared of being called pakis, they call themselves Indian when asked about their country..How many time you have told so - you are indian???
Maid was Indian employee working for indian government, she will get what Indian government decides. And if wage was so low for a maid she would not joined her service. no body has forced her.
And about lying, go ask your diplomats and government, how much they are paying to their maids and what is contractual. And also It's not all clear what the contract was, It' s already in news that the contract was misquoted and misunderstood .

please stop flattering yourself lmfao.
no pakistan would ever insult himself by saying he's a indian infact no human would ever do that lol.
and even if they did they must be high on something to put themselves so low lol.
i rather die then being called a indian lol.
our diplomats must be paying them the right amount or at least not lying like your diplomats.

 

[Kurama]

please stop flattering yourself lmfao.
no pakistan would ever insult himself by saying he's a indian infact no human would ever do that lol.
and even if they did they must be high on something to put themselves so low lol.
i rather die then being called a indian lol.
our diplomats must be paying them the right amount or at least not lying like your diplomats.

Buddy, I don't want to burst your ego bubble, but if you want I can certainly post some videos.
A country which runs on begging, paying his paying diplomats maid 4500$, you need some coffee.

 

[Juice]

situation is not black and white as the vote makes it appear ! Having said that I am yet to meet a sensible post from any NRI explaining how come US realized after all these years that Indians do not pay their helps as stipulated by american laws ?

How come the situation was never highlighted to Indians ? How come they never warned us before going on arresting ? How come they didnt throw her out citing human trafficking charges ?

How come the Consulate office was is dark when she was getting arrested ?

Actually this was brought up long before the arrest....GoI chose to ignore it. Insulting your diaspora helps how?

 

[Sashan]

Actually this was brought up long before the arrest....GoI chose to ignore it. Insulting your diaspora helps how?

Actually the issue was identified 5 years back and GOI choose to ignore the warnings.

1. The US government accountability office (GAO) published a report which identified 42 instances of diplomats in the US accused of abusing foreign employees they had brought to the country between 2000 and 2008. Also in 2008, the William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorisation Act strengthened protections offered to employees of diplomats and consular officials and made it possible to censure employers.
Under this law, domestic workers must be made aware of their rights in this country directly by consular officers and, most relevant to the Khobragade case, diplomats are required to have a contract with a domestic worker containing conditions of employment.

2. Then few diplomats were prosecuted and was asked to pay retribution which included couple of Indian diplomats who had full immunity - Neena Malhotra(who ran away to India without paying) and Prabhu Dayal(who settled for an undisclosed money with the maid) - Did these IFS community think of this as a warning? No. They though they can still flout the laws.

3. Then a warning came when the US DOS informed the Indian embassy of the case against Devyani in September. And again IFS/MEA everyone thought it is an empty threat.

And US acted as per the law of the land. The GOI sat on it all the while ignoring all the signs and now these people whip up a frenzy and will blame everyone for the turn of events and think that anyone including the diaspora who disagree with their opinion insult India.

But at the end of the day, these self-appointed patriotic certificate issuers(not that one cares much about these folks) does not know it is the Diaspora and the NRIs who is paying for these people's gold and oil imports by offsetting the negative balance of payments by their record deposits and remittances(together it came to about $126 billion last year while remittance alone was around $69 billion).

And in Aug this year, when the rupee value was dipping, GOI turned not to these self-appointed patriots to rescue the rupee but to the diaspora to buy the bonds and arrest the sliding of the rupee.

And foreign policy especially relationships with countries with which India does not share a border is not a major item on the election agenda.

So you see these are empty shouts worth nothing while it is business as usual on the other side.

 

[JanjaWeed]

Dear thread starter...don't club all NRIs together. We have some non-American NRIs here too you know...and they may have a different POV altogether.

 

[Chronos]

Dear thread starter...don't club all NRIs together. We have some non-American NRIs here too you know...and they may have a different POV altogether.

That's me

There is also an element in the Indian elite, who due to their psychological inferiority complexes desperately seek approval and validation from Westerners (read whites) to fulfill their sense of self worth.

In the whole, I find sections of the Indian elite more artificial, superficial than their western counterparts.

There are many changes I feel that needs to happen to Indian society. But I want it, to make India stronger, not because I somehow feel beneath white people.

That was my little rant.

 

[qamar1990]

Buddy, I don't want to burst your ego bubble, but if you want I can certainly post some videos.
A country which runs on begging, paying his paying diplomats maid 4500$, you need some coffee.

• Lol you probably don't know English so I'm not responding to you anymore. I'm not repeating myself for you uneducated Indians.

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[Kurama]

• Lol you probably don't know English so I'm not responding to you anymore. I'm not repeating myself for you uneducated Indians.

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Lol don't make me laugh, This is not a grammar forum. A country where literacy rate is 40% saying to a country which produces the highest no of Doctors, Engineers, scientist uneducated...
here go through these videos and enjoy..

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Enjoy buddy...

 

[FaujHistorian]

I don't know if someone posted already.

DA who caught the Indian madam is an Indian American.

Correct?

 

[Not Sure]

I don't know if someone posted already.

DA who caught the Indian madam is an Indian American.

Correct?

The prosecutor, Preet Bharara, has an excellent record of apprehending and successfully prosecuting criminals, esp terrorism related. He was in fact so successful in getting the verdict when a string of Pakistan trained terrorists were caught that many felt he was witch-hunting the Pakistani Americans.

Now he is accused by Indians of serving his American Masters (how is he himself not an American, is beyond me).

The thing is, blind nationalism is so rife in countries like India and Pakistan, that we are ready to harm ourselves than someone else point out our shortcomings.

In my opinion, this prosecutor has done greater services for India than have majority of the politicians today. Just as George W. Bush did more for India than most of the Indian Prime Ministers ever could. Then again, G.W. Bush too is hated by Indians for absolutely no reason.

From 2010:

WASHINGTON: The arrest of a Pakistani-American Faisal Shahzad by US law enforcement authorities in connection with the Times Square terror plot will once again put the focus on Preet Bharara, the India-born US Federal Attorney, who is already under attack in some Pakistani quarters for allegedly carrying out a "witch-hunt" against Pakistanis in the US.

Bharara, 41, who is one of the 93 US Attorneys appointed the US President, heads the US Attorney's office for the Southern District in New York, which covers Manhattan, where the attempted bombing took place, and JFK Airport, where terror suspect Faisal Shahzad was arrested.


Bharara, who was born in Ferozepur, Punjab, and moved to the US with his parents when he was only two, grew up in New Jersey and graduated from Harvard in 1990 and Columbia Law School in 1993 (which are also President Obama's alma mater), before embarking on a legal and political path where he was marked as a rising star very early in his career.

Obama appointed him US Attorney in the summer of 2009, and in the months since, he has handled several high-profile prosecution cases including that of Ponzi scammer Bernie Madoff and 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

But in a vicious attack some weeks back, a Pakistani newspaper accused Bharara of carrying out a witch-hunt against Pakistanis in the US because of his "ideological beliefs" going back to the sub-continent's partition days.

The Nation newspaper also alleged that Bharara appointed a "like-minded controversial Indian who is also known for his hatred and venomous propaganda against Pakistan, Anjan Sahni, as Chief of the Terrorism and International Narcotics Unit soon after he assumed the charge of US Federal Attorney of New York."

But there is very little in Bharara's life or career that points to any prejudice or bias. In fact, among the prosecutions he is handling is one against the Galleon Group, where defendants include Sri Lankan Raj Rajaratnam and Indian-Americans Anil Kumar and Rajiv Goel. Although a Democrat (he worked on New York Senator Charles Schumer's staff before being appointed US Attorney), he has earned praise across party lines.

Bharara's father is a Sikh and his mother is Hindu and they both moved from what became Pakistan to the Indian side during partition. But his father-in-law is a Muslim who moved in the other direction and his mother-in-law is from Palestine and is of Jewish origin.

In a statement following Shahzad's arrest, Bharara said "the dedicated agents, detectives, and prosecutors on this case will continue to follow every lead and use every tool to keep the people of New York City safe," and pledged that "we will not rest until every terrorist, whether homegrown or foreign-based, is neutralized and held to account."

 

[KingMamba]

Buddy, I don't want to burst your ego bubble, but if you want I can certainly post some videos.
A country which runs on begging, paying his paying diplomats maid 4500$, you need some coffee.

I live here among hundreds of Pakistanis, none of us say we are Indian ever lol. You endian trash see a video of one namard and assume its the norm well in that case all you yindoos must be slumdogs like in the movie.

 

[FaujHistorian]

The prosecutor, Preet Bharara, has an excellent record of apprehending and successfully prosecuting criminals, esp terrorism related. He was in fact so successful in getting the verdict when a string of Pakistan trained terrorists were caught that many felt he was witch-hunting the Pakistani Americans.

Now he is accused by Indians of serving his American Masters (how is he himself not an American, is beyond me).

The thing is, blind nationalism is so rife in countries like India and Pakistan, that we are ready to harm ourselves than someone else point out our shortcomings.

In my opinion, this prosecutor has done greater services for India than have majority of the politicians today. Just as George W. Bush did more for India than most of the Indian Prime Ministers ever could. Then again, G.W. Bush too is hated by Indians for absolutely no reason.

OK it makes sense now.

Thanks.

But don't you think Indian Americans are really proud of him?

 

[Not Sure]

OK it makes sense now.

Thanks.

But don't you think Indian Americans are really proud of him?

They ought to be. I am an Indian and I am proud of him. My sister is an Indian American and she is proud of him. And if anyone were to ask, I could put a string of names of White as well as Black Americans who are proud of him.

It is the general population in India that has gone bonkers because they are too lazy to see through the media bias.

Lived in NY three years. Mr. Preet is a corrupt DA.

I have lived in Chicago and Barak Obama is a hobbit. Trust me, I have lived there, so I must know.