Not really. On one hand, if you care to see what's taking place in Greece, Bulgaria, and Southern Germany you will understand that some of them still cry a river of blood over it, while others on the other hand decent people fight against the modern wave of antisemitism.
Maybe it's a misunderstanding of the phrase used. When I said "cry blood", I meant cries of hatred, cry as in scream or shriek, not crying in sadness. You don't see jews across the globe (say in USA or France or Britain) being indoctrinated with hatred towards Christians or Germans for the holocaust. (Of course there may be extreme fundamentalist jews who hate people of other religions, just as there are muslims and hindus also.) But the holocaust itself is not used an excuse to hate Christians or white people or Germany, although Christianity and white supremacy and Germanic nationalism directly caused the holocaust. Hence your comparison to westerners crying about the holocaust is not valid. To reiterate - I meant cries of hatred, not cries of sympathy. (Which BTW, even non muslims do - the communist party of India vehemently supports and sympathizes with the Palestinians, although the party is not Islamic by a long stretch.)
We have seen western-based groups shouting death to the Jews and Muslims at the same time, I wouldn't be surprised someone said death to Germans
I never generalized a thing my dear, if you care to read my post carefully we will be seeing that I used " Many " on both sides. Let just stop groundless accusations for once.
You just said that Arabs don't care about the Palestinians, which is an utter generalization.
Well I did not generalize either, at least not intentionally, so the accusation against me was groundless too. Anyway, let me clarify, since my original statement at a glance may be seen as a generalization - I merely made a comment inn the context of this thread. I was not implying that not a single arab cares for the Palestinian cause. I was saying that on this thread, south Asians and other people were more interested than arabs or Israelis. I was speaking mostly about this thread and forum. But if you look at the arab world as such, Saudi Arabia and GCC and many other countries have accepted Israel as a fact, even though they do not officially acknowledge it. Besides, they have many similar interests. Like a poster above said, and you agreed, it is in their interest to keep the region stable and keep the oil money flowing in, rather than go to war for a tiny piece of land. Which is why you don't see Qatari mirages or Saudi F-15s being used against Israel to give Palestinians their land back. If all the arab countries were as interested in giving the place to Palestinians as the rest of the muslim world is, then Israel would not live so peacefully, to put it mildly.
How would you know that I'm not?I've never talked about my religion on this forum, and for good reason. I made a comment on one of the arab threads about Saudi sentencing a woman to be flogged (You might remember - you responded to me.), and other than your response, all the other arab posters mocked me for being hindu (again, I may or may not be), instead of addressing my points. And I preferred to desist from commenting further on that thread, because nothing good can come out of dialoging with people who concentrate on the poster and not the posts.
Long story short, whether I'm one of them or not is irrelevant to how much I would know about it. A well read non muslim can know the importance and history of a "holy" place as well as or better than an ignorant muslim, right? (Again, the "ignorant muslim" is not a generalization. A hypothetical ignorant muslim, if you will.)
Yes, I know the importance of Israel-Palestine to muslims. But if you take that line, surely you must be aware of the importance of that place to jews? That argument can go both ways, and it can actually work much better for the jews. The poem on which their national anthem is based still mourns about the destruction of their temple in that land long before Christ was born. Before the state of Israel was established, the jewish diaspora around the globe believed that as long as even one jewish soul mourns for (what is now) Palestine, their people still have hope. (Hence the title of their anthem.) The importance of muslims to that place pales in comparison. This is the land where jewish people have fought and died for since millennia before Christianity or islam began.
Anyway I don't want to take sides in the Israel-Palestine question, I am completely neutral in that. My point was about how the issue is used in the muslim world to recruit cannon fodder.
Since such issue happens to be within my field of expertise there is no way on earth that you would know better than I do when it comes to dealing with these savage baboons.
Al-Qaida, the Taliban, and Al-Nusrah ultimate goal is to liberate every single inch of Palestine either by the use of force or act of terror. But firstly all of them need to get rid of or weaken Israel's close allies, and all Muslims who oppose them - the list will include many such as people and their Government - thanks to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, it enabled these groups to wage a regional and global terror.
Precisely my point. Foot soldiers of al Qaeda and other terrorist groups across the globe, in Pakistan and afgh and Nigeria seem to care more about it than Arabs living close by.
Depending on how someone sees the conflict my dear. Groups like Hamas, Fatah, and Hezbollah pose threat to world peace, while the far wing nuts of the Israeli regime are in no better situation than the aforementioned groups.
Tell me that when far right jewish groups do terrorist activities across the world, in places far removed from the scene of the conflict (Israel-Palestine).
Muslims aren't stupid to the extent that someone could brainwash them to hate Israel or Saudi Arabia or England. The. Israeli regime actions speak to themselves, thanks to the MSM, and international amnesty.
Well muslims aren't, if you generalize. But a lot of muslims do hate "the west" and Israel and jews, without ever having been there.
Both Taliban groups accused Pakistan of working indirectly for " Zionist " interests in an indirect way by cooperating with the US Gov't, something these groups often use interchangeably
Many Pakistanis accused foreign bodies of assisting the Taliban to destabilize Pakistan, a claim that could be legit but not certainly true or false.
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