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Arabs slam Pak stand on Yemen and Call on Pakistani Parliament to Fall in Line

I know Pakistani Parliament made the most stupid move we can't live alone in this world we had to stand with 1.3 billion Sunni Block which are on side and our economy depends on most of these countries. What were are members thinking ???

Where is your faith ?, he created you he will provide for you?. With faith like that a man is whopped before he has even got up.
 
highly unexpected response from UAE when KSA did not make a response
 
may I ask why you negative rated my post? He said he is ready to give its life to Islam and that I don,t understand that feeling and I explained this is exactly the reason why there are millions of suicide bombers among them... really? Although it is not that important to have + or - but I don't understand why... sectarian? This post was one non sectarian and logical explanation among all sectarian posts and you chose me?? Although, it is ok... one Red negative sign is good for balance as I already have one positive!!

Try not to get too emotionally involved. Lets not call all Saudis suicide bombers as such. I have removed the negative rating. I strongly want the dispute between Iran and Saudia to end by the way because it only hurts the Muslim ummah. I hope the best for each country even though Saudi has funded the LEJ in my country. It does not mean I will hate all Saudis.
 
To all Arab supporters here on the thread........ do understand that we are still on your side that you haven't faced the wrath of Iran...... we still believe that you guys are lesser of those evil forces that god has cursed your lands with......... so behave, lest we change sides........ that my friends, will be the end of you!
 
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Forget Israel. Arabs are their own worst enemy - ArabNews

The Arab world is its own worst enemy
Abdulateef al-Mulhim said that Israel should be at the bottom of the Arab world's enemy list
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If I were to argue that the real enemy of the Arab world is not Israel, but the Arab world itself, what would people say? If I suggested it is the Arab states’ own endemic corruption, poor healthcare, inadequate education system, lack of respect for human rights, and disregard for human life and freedom of speech that is the real problem? If I said that many Arab states actually cause their own people far greater suffering than Israel does? That in attacking Israel in 1948 and 1967, and intermittently thereafter, the Arab world only harmed itself? That Israel offers a far better standard of living to Palestinians than many Arab states offer their citizens? If I argued all of this, wouldn’t the response be a tsunami of animosity?

I think so. For that reason, I won’t. I’ll leave it to Abdulateef al-Mulhim, the former commodore of the Saudi Navy.

In an article that first appeared in the Arab News and has been widely cited since, al-Mulhim made all these points. The Times printed a lengthy extract in their Opinion pages. Here are some choice quotations.

On the real Arab enemy (themselves): “The Arab world … has many enemies, and Israel should have been at the bottom of the list. The real enemies of the Arab world are corruption, lack of good education, lack of good healthcare, lack of freedom, lack of respect for human lives and, finally, the many dictators who used the Arab-Israeli conflict to suppress their own people. These dictators’ atrocities against their own citizens are far worse than all the full-scale Arab-Israeli wars … Syrians are leaving their own country not because of Israeli planes dropping bombs on them but the Syrian Air Force doing so.”

On the comparison of many Arab states and Israel: “If many of the Arab states are in such disarray, we should contrast them with Israel. It now has the most advanced research facilities, top universities and infrastructure. Many Arabs don’t know that the life expectancy of Palestinians living in Israel is far greater than in many Arab states and they enjoy far greater political and social freedom than many of their Arab brothers. Even the Palestinians living under Israeli occupation in the West Bank and Gaza Strip [sic] enjoy more political and social rights than in some parts of the Arab world.”

On the lessons from the Arab Spring: “The Arab Spring showed the world that the Palestinians are happier and living better than their Arab brothers who fought to liberate them from the Israelis. It is time to stop the hatred and wars and create better living conditions for future Arab generations."

The motivations of the author are open to speculation. And, let's face it, much of this is a bit rich coming from a former member of the Saudi establishment, which does not have the best of track records when it comes to human rights. But on the face of it, this is a brave piece to write. The Saudis may not have very much love for many of the Arab countries of which he speaks, but they are traditionally not particularly keen on Israel, either. For that matter, it is unusual for anybody outside of America to argue that for far too long, far too much attention has been focussed on Israel and its supposed evils, and far too little attention has been paid to the nature of the aggression it faces.

I’m not suggesting that Israel is spotless. Personally, I found the excesses of the 2006 Lebanon campaign hard to stomach, the alleged use of white phosphorus during Operation Cast Lead inexcusable, the seeming indulgence of the West Bank “price taggers” unacceptable, and so on. And I'd be keen to see a State of Palestine properly recognised and represented at the UN.

But no country is perfect, especially one that is just 64 years old, and has existed in a perpetual, de facto state of war. Notwithstanding all its faults, for too long we have allowed Israel – an essentially liberal democracy under immense strain – to be demonised in the eyes of the world while holding it to standards we never apply to its neighbours. The UN has passed far more resolutions against the Jewish state than any other country in the world, including Iran, Zimbabwe, China, Russia and North Korea. According to some estimates, a third of all UN resolutions are passed against Israel. Why these double standards? Is it not condescending to ignore the fundamental abuses of humanity and dignity that we see in other states, as if they can’t be expected to know any better? Is it not hypocritical to expend far more energy correcting Israel’s relatively minor misdemeanours while turning a blind eye to the horrendous actions of the dictatorships that surround it?

For the Arab world, hatred of Israel is a distraction. They would be wise to refocus their attentions on putting their own house in order. This is is al-Mulhim's conclusion, not mine. Many people, of course, may disagree, and they are entitled to do so. But what I want to know is, why is his very sound and reasonable argument made so rarely in the British media? And why will it inevitably be met with such venom?

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Corruption, lack of freedom and dictators’ atrocities bring more misery than full-scale wars
I was recently struck by some photos and reports I saw on the al-Arabiya network, the most respected news outlet in the Middle East. There was a starving child in Yemen, a burnt-out ancient souk in Aleppo, Syria, car bombs in Iraq and destroyed buildings in Libya.
 
......... so behave, lest we change sides........ that my friends, will be the end of you!
Seriously? That a quite a big statement. And a statement beyond one's stature, to be honest.
 
Try not to get too emotionally involved. Lets not call all Saudis suicide bombers as such. I have removed the negative rating. I strongly want the dispute between Iran and Saudia to end by the way because it only hurts the Muslim ummah. I hope the best for each country even though Saudi has funded the LEJ in my country. It does not mean I will hate all Saudis.

This is the clash of Races Iranic vs Arab, the secterian side is not the real factor here, Iran has ambitions and dreams of its past glory which is seen as a threat by the neighboring Arab world, wether they are correct in their perception is debatable.

Saudia and GCC are the aggressors here, they never stood for any Opressed Muslim and when Iran did so with Palestine it was reminded that it is an Arab problem.
 
look at Silence of Pakistan leaders and media against open threat from Gulf countries !!

Not a single voice raised by them.. not even murmur.

If this happen to be India... Huge uproar would have created by leaders and media persons that How dare they say about that.. We even created uproar whenShahrukh stopped for 2 hours by mighty USA...

See the difference
India and her false ego. The most common disease in the Indian territory. Well India can try and raise a voice against GCCs coalition and test her dignity.
 
Nah brother. I don't think so. One thing you can be assured of is the size of our balls and sheer stupidity that works wonders for us.

Look at our size and the fingers we have put up others. If it were some sort of competition of survivors, we would be the last man standing.

Seriously? That a quite a big statement. And a statement beyond one's stature, to be honest.
 
@Desert Fox

That individual who was behind those 2 false propaganda threads aimed at Pakistan which dear @waz dealt with is using the opinions of 1 Arab user and generalizes his opinions/views on the 450 million or so Arabs out there. Terrorist attacks in KSA can be counted on 2-3 hands, 4 at most in the past 100 years. The individuals who joined Al-Qaeda 25 years ago during the height of the Afghan-Soviet war and who now join ISIS represent 0,001% of the population of KSA literary. 90% of them are people under the age of 23 and who have other problems. They often find refugee in an extreme attachment to religion which when used by evil person can create unfortunate situations. Often those are just confused teenagers. We all know how easily teenagers are influenced. It says all about his logic when he compares a toothbrush made out of palm leaves with suicide bombings. I have never tried meswak personally but I have indeed read that it is effective to this day. Just because it is an old method it does not mean that it's bad. Nowadays people think that everything old or traditional is bad. On the contrary I think.

Try not to get too emotionally involved. Lets not call all Saudis suicide bombers as such. I have removed the negative rating. I strongly want the dispute between Iran and Saudia to end by the way because it only hurts the Muslim ummah. I hope the best for each country even though Saudi has funded the LEJ in my country. It does not mean I will hate all Saudis.

You are just a anti-Arab and anti-KSA user with a soft spot for the Mullah's of Iran which you have confirmed time and time again. No need to play "neutral" when it is obvious that you are not. Just a friendly advice. You have a lot to learn about KSA, the GCC, Arabian Peninsula, Arab world, ME and the MENA region. When it comes to history, culture, politics, traditions, ground realities etc. This is not something I say to provoke you but something that I can conclude based on your posts on this section. Don't take it personally.
 
@Desert Fox

That individual who was behind those 2 false propaganda threads aimed at Pakistan which dear @waz dealt with is using the opinions of 1 Arab user and generalizes his opinions/views on the 450 million or so Arabs out there. Terrorist attacks in KSA can be counted on 2-3 hands, 4 at most in the past 100 years. The individuals who joined Al-Qaeda 25 years ago during the height of the Afghan-Soviet war and who now join ISIS represent 0,001% of the population of KSA literary. 90% of them are people under the age of 23 and who have other problems. They often find refugee in an extreme attachment to religion which when used by evil person can create unfortunate situations. Often those are just confused teenagers. We all know how easily teenagers are influenced. It says all about this logic when he compares a toothbrush made out of palm leaves with suicide bombings. I have never tried meswak personally but I have indeed read that it is effective to this day. Just because it is an old method it does not mean that it's bad. Nowadays people think that everything old or traditional is bad. On the contrary I think.



You are just a anti-Arab and anti-KSA with a soft corner for the Mullah's of Iran which you have confirmed time and time again. No need to play "neutral" when it is obvious that you are not. Just a friendly advice. You have a lot to learn about KSA, the GCC, Arabian Peninsula, Arab world, ME and MENA region. Be it history, culture, politics, traditions, ground realities etc. This is not something I say to provoke you but something that I can conclude based on your posts on this section. Don't take it personally.

High Profile Terrorists have had mostly Saudi origins, Osama bin laden and the twin tower bombers to name a few.

We had same issues in our country where our young generation have been radicalized by foreign funded madrasahs.

@haviZsultan is a Pakistani first he neither dances for Arabs or Iran he dances for Pakistan, if that make Him anti Arab then what can I say.
 
High Profile Terrorists have had mostly Saudi origins, Osama bin laden and the twin tower bombers to name a few.

We had same issues in our country where our young generation have been radicalized by foreign funded madrasahs.

OBL was half Yemeni and half Syrian. He was only born in KSA but millions of non-locals have been born in KSA but that does not make them locals. Those were 15 people out of over 30 million people and most of those 15 were of Yemeni background and from the southern provinces of KSA. You do not know what you are talking about.

Taliban is not from KSA. Al-Shaabab is not from KSA. Al-Baghdadi is not from KSA. Al-Zarqawi was not from KSA. Al-Zawahiri is not from KSA. The Muslim Brotherhood are not from KSA, ISIS is not from KSA, the Farsi Mullah's are not from KSA, Hezbollah are not from KSA, TTP are not from KSA nor the Houthi cult etc. The list is endless. Stop blaming your failures on KSA.
 
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