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I wish to see you assume a stance of an Arabizer and a pan Arab nationalist, discard your alliance with the enemy of Arabs Erdogan.

Iran and Turkey are enemies alike, enemies of the Arab world whom we should destroy. Which we did before America saved them.

Ottoman empire was a piece of shit era, sad to see uneducated Arabs value that.

I don't believe in Arab, Iranian or Turkish nationalism. Nationalism is a distraction from God and distraction from our relationship with our Creator. Arabs need logical thinking and moderate Islamists like Hamas, Hamas is the best Arab government in the world. Hamas is gonna take over the whole Middle East and I will be the head of the Palestinian Navy in 2022.
 
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Alright guys I'm out, whoever wants to take over this thread can. I'm not staying on this Shia/Iranian forum any longer. Where this forum is used as a platform for hatred and propaganda to be spread against a whole ethnicity(Arabs) in order to advance Iranian nationalistic agenda using Twelver Shia's from Pakistani background as well. The moderation team here is practicing censorship against Arabs and allowing Iranian propaganda/hatred to continue. They are now banning me from debunking from this propaganda.

Very big problem with this moderation here is they are not judging people by their intentions and this creates vacuum to exploits by propagandists to create massive fitnah. If they were to moderate this forum based on peoples intentions much of the fitnah would be decreased and this place wouldn't be a platform for narrative building for abusive/evil regimes.

I do not believe this forum is representative of Pakistani majority consensus. I've met a lot of good people here. But the moderation team has lost me and forever. This was the last place on internet where I could campaign for God and now they are censoring me from speaking in favor of God. I'm not gonna allow myself to be censored from supporting my Lord and I promised myself that the day that happens is when I coming into real world to support my Lord. I am no longer going to post any online forums and going to prepare and work towards supporting our Creator in the real world. I'm sick and tired of human beings fighting against God and I hope to see the good people in real life , supporting their Lord as well.

Just take a break for as long as you need to refresh the old joints and lubricate the grinding surfaces and come back stronger than before when you're ready. You're the only Palestinian I've seen in countless English speaking forums and you folks are a rare breed, so is nice to have your voice and read your opinions and sometime its best to ignore the "noise" in the background and stay steadfast, InshaAllah we'll see you after a little break.
 
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Ezayoko ya shabab, pretty much a good era to live in the Middle East eh? A lot of events and good food to keep up with them ;). May the affected countries recover and improve soon.

What do you guys know about the wars of the Middle East? Equipment, history or claims?

Personally I’ve read “Phoenix Over the Nile” and “Arab MiGs Vol.6” and the more I read such books the more I learn about the strategic depth and oh would I ever get bored of them...
 
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@Falcon29 , check out these magnificent photos of Palestinian Jerusalem in the village of Sataf. Spectacular.

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Ezayoko ya shabab, pretty much a good era to live in the Middle East eh? A lot of events and good food to keep up with them ;). May the affected countries recover and improve soon.

What do you guys know about the wars of the Middle East? Equipment, history or claims?

Personally I’ve read “Phoenix Over the Nile” and “Arab MiGs Vol.6” and the more I read such books the more I learn about the strategic depth and oh would I ever get bored of them...

Ezayk ya basha, how's it going? It really is a unique era for the Middle East, heavily polarized yet if you go visit there there is sense of normalcy and lots of cool things to do.

Honestly I haven't looked into ME wars over the last century much since it seemed foreign colonial powers really ran the show until late 40's and early 50's. I do wonder how this transition into independence worked, as it was quite abrupt. I don't know governments and militaries were formed that quickly.

The October War was one I read into, especially regarding the operation against the bar lev line and how that was done. Truly an impressive feat. I also looked into Syria's fate during the 73 war. Jordan interestingly seemed to have an effective force that wasn't talked about much. Other than that the Iraq war with both Iran and the US caught my interests as well.

Egypt, Algeria and Saudi Arabia are catching my attention in terms of equipment. Algeria got an interesting mix of Eastern and European equipment and Egypt is going back to diversifying too. What do you think about the equipment in the region?

@Falcon29 , check out these magnificent photos of Palestinian Jerusalem in the village of Sataf. Spectacular.

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Thanks for sharing this basha, it's really incredible how diverse the landscape is in that small piece of land. Desert land, green hills, city life and even some canyons:
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I know Saudi Arabia has some similar looking canyons as well.
 
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Jordan interestingly seemed to have an effective force that wasn't talked about much
Jordan had the best army in the 6 day war IMO, they were only defeated when the IAF got on the line.
Egypt is going back to diversifying too.
I’m not a fan of the Egyptian Military procurement system.
What do you think about the equipment in the region?
Enough to beat a Russia without nuclear weapons. You?
 
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@Titanium100 @Falcon29


Hijazi Arabic is not included here, but some Arab said that Hijazi speaks softer Arabic, is that true bro ??

To my knowledge Hijazi Arabic is similiar to fuhsah while north African is mixed with French and berber dialect so it can sound more rough/harsh if that what he means. In some places in Saudi or like Yemen it's harder to understand.
 
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To my knowledge Hijazi Arabic is similiar to fuhsah while north African is mixed with French and berber dialect so it can sound more rough/harsh if that what he means. In some places in Saudi or like Yemen it's harder to understand.
None of the Arab states speak Classical Arabic, all have a dialect they use...and how to sound to the ear it’s a matter of getting use to..
 
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Hijazi Arabic is not included here, but some Arab said that Hijazi speaks softer Arabic, is that true bro ??

Well, it kinda is if you take the Saudi Arabian fella's dialogue. Then Hizaji Arabic (which essentially is GCC Arabic to put it in PDF terms lol) and is basically the predominant, Saudi Arabian Arabic spoken through the entire western portion of SA and the eastern portion as well where you can include all the Emirati Arabic and even large portions of Yemeni Arabic. The only slight variations would be Omani and Bahrain Arabic but for me, when I listen to all of that (and being from Egypt), it's pretty inclusive as it's all very connected to Hizaji Arabic.

So just because that fella doesn't say "Hejazi" specifically doesn't mean it's not spoken there when it's predominantly the main Arabic for Saudi Arabia and all the ones I mentioned.

But what's funny about much of what you hear in these videos, is the outside influence of wherever some of those people are living. You can easily pick up on some of that kind of thing if you listen enough and have lived it through your life. For example, you can clearly hear the French in the Moroccan Arabic which is VERY STRANGE for this kid and million other Arabs will tell you the same thing. The Lebanese fella's Arabic might be close to Shamy or Lubnany, but you can tell wherever he is, his Arabic is influenced by whatever predominant language he speaks since I've been to Lebanon several times in my 54 years and both my brothers were in boarding school there, the pure Lebanese is much more fluent and with a lot more "Shamy" influence than what that fella was speaking. Same with the Saudi fella. You can tell he even pronounced the Franco/Arabic in the Moroccan girl's speech very well. And so the Arabic they're speaking is perfectly fine for what it is. Just don't try too hard to "authenticate" any precise Arabic regional dialects from these youngsters is all I would say.

Then you have what is really something rather interesting in that Egyptian Arabic (and you can clearly hear it with that girl speaking as if she is right out of Boolak El Dakroor in southern Cairo!) but Egyptian Arabic is like none other. It is probably the most colloquial form of Arabic spoken out of all the countries and directly over the border from us, our Palestinian brothers and sisters' speak an Arabic that I would say is much closer to Shamy Arabic than our Egyptian. But once you have official statements being made on television or the news etc., even our Egyptian Arabic turns into its own form of classical Arabic that is much closer to a combination of the others.

That's really why you'll see those kids either get it 100% right away, or not understand it whatsoever just like what was happening in that video.
 
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Well, it kinda is if you take the Saudi Arabian fella's dialogue. Then Hizaji Arabic (which essentially is GCC Arabic to put it in PDF terms lol) and is basically the predominant, Saudi Arabian Arabic spoken through the entire western portion of SA and the eastern portion as well where you can include all the Emirati Arabic and even large portions of Yemeni Arabic. The only slight variations would be Omani and Bahrain Arabic but for me, when I listen to all of that (and being from Egypt), it's pretty inclusive as it's all very connected to Hizaji Arabic.

So just because that fella doesn't say "Hejazi" specifically doesn't mean it's not spoken there when it's predominantly the main Arabic for Saudi Arabia and all the ones I mentioned.

But what's funny about much of what you hear in these videos, is the outside influence of wherever some of those people are living. You can easily pick up on some of that kind of thing if you listen enough and have lived it through your life. For example, you can clearly hear the French in the Moroccan Arabic which is VERY STRANGE for this kid and million other Arabs will tell you the same thing. The Lebanese fella's Arabic might be close to Shamy or Lubnany, but you can tell wherever he is, his Arabic is influenced by whatever predominant language he speaks since I've been to Lebanon several times in my 54 years and both my brothers were in boarding school there, the pure Lebanese is much more fluent and with a lot more "Shamy" influence than what that fella was speaking. Same with the Saudi fella. You can tell he even pronounced the Franco/Arabic in the Moroccan girl's speech very well. And so the Arabic they're speaking is perfectly fine for what it is. Just don't try too hard to "authenticate" any precise Arabic regional dialects from these youngsters is all I would say.

Then you have what is really something rather interesting in that Egyptian Arabic (and you can clearly hear it with that girl speaking as if she is right out of Boolak El Dakroor in southern Cairo!) but Egyptian Arabic is like none other. It is probably the most colloquial form of Arabic spoken out of all the countries and directly over the border from us, our Palestinian brothers and sisters' speak an Arabic that I would say is much closer to Shamy Arabic than our Egyptian. But once you have official statements being made on television or the news etc., even our Egyptian Arabic turns into its own form of classical Arabic that is much closer to a combination of the others.

That's really why you'll see those kids either get it 100% right away, or not understand it whatsoever just like what was happening in that video.

Nice, thanks for the explanation, really appreciate it.
 
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Puts the size of some of these amazing statues the ancient Egyptians carved out of stone into perspective. The engineering is most impressive in many of these cases, more so than the art or message itself.

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