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[al-Hasani]

Yes its the Hot Pot originated in Mongolia.

Switzerland as a bunch of united states has a history of half a millenium, its older or better said more continuous than most states on earth with a couple addition of states throught history.
Its diputed when exactly Switzerland was founded, the date revolves around 1300s but it got its modern form in 1848.

Ofcourse Switzer are a bunch of European ethnicities but their Swiss nationalism is strong, they consider themselves as Swiss and hate it to be called Italian, French or German.
Sometimes people call them ''Mountain Germans'' to tease them and they get pissed off.

The secret of Swiss properity is discipline, honesty and hardworking i have to give them that, they have a big Pharma industry, world class products such as watches, and obviously Banking sector, Nestle, Rolex, Novartis and Roche are just a couple of Swiss global companys.

Mate, what I meant is that Switzerland as a country and a modern-day state might be old (about 700 years - just googled) but what about their culture, traditions, things that made them distinguished etc. before that period? It's not like in our part of the world or the Arab world were we have millennium old cultures that are largely similar of a Semitic stock (now influenced by Arabic culture which itself is part of that) and distinctive historical regions. Just like you Turks share a recent history or at least a Turkic history. Many of the modern-day states might be young countries (I would rather say nation states) but that's not the case with their culture, traditions, the land they live on and their connection to that land and previous civilizations on that land.

I can't see that with the Swiss but I can see that with the Italians, Germans, French etc. even before their nation states were created. A bit complex but that's what I alluded too.

So this is something that I wondered about. Are the people who speak Romansh language considered as the natives or do people not operated with such a thing? Also are there not a rivalry between the German, French and Italian parts?

You are right. Similar traits are found among Danes. I think this is due to the Protestant revolution.

Protestant work ethic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oh, I forgot to mention that Denmark has a huge pharmacy industry as well. A heaven for chemical engineers.

Mate, can you recommend other Turkish kebabs other than Adana Kebab? Something distinct. Thanks.

@Sinan might also know something here. He seems to me like a fan of meat like most of us here.

 

[-SINAN-]

Mate, what I meant is that Switzerland as a country and a modern-day state might be old (about 700 years - just googled) but what about their culture, traditions, things that made them distinguished etc. before that period? It's not like in our part of the world or the Arab world were we have millennium old cultures that are largely similar of a Semitic stock (now influenced by Arabic culture which itself is part of that) and distinctive historical regions. Just like you Turks share a recent history or at least a Turkic history. Many of the modern-day states might be young countries (I would rather say nation states) but that's not the case with their culture, traditions, the land they live on and their connection to that land and previous civilizations on that land.

I can't see that with the Swiss but I can see that with the Italians, Germans, French etc. even before their nation states were created. A bit complex but that's what I alluded too.

So this is something that I wondered about. Are the people who speak Romansh language considered as the natives or do people not operated with such a thing? Also are there not a rivalry between the German, French and Italian parts?

You are right. Similar traits are found among Danes. I think this is due to the Protestant revolution.

Protestant work ethic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oh, I forgot to mention that Denmark has a huge pharmacy industry as well. A heaven for chemical engineers.

Mate, can you recommend other Turkish kebabs other than Adana Kebab? Something distinct. Thanks.

@Sinan might also know something here. He seems to me like a fan of meat like most of us here.

Mate....going with not only kebab with my top list meat dishes


1-) Erzurum's "Oltu Cag Kebab"

2-) Bursa's "İskender"

3-) Beyti

4-) Adıyaman's "Çiğ Köfte"

5-) Konya's "Tandır kebab"

6-) Antep's Lahmacun

7-) Kayseri's "Pastırma"This not really a dish but we can say it as a ingredient but you can eat it raw, which i do. In my opinion it is the best taste you can get of a meat.

 

[al-Hasani]

Mate....going with not only kebab with my top list meat dishes


1-) Erzurum's "Oltu Cag Kebab"
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2-) Bursa's "İskender"
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3-) Beyti
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4-) Adıyaman's "Çiğ Köfte"
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5-) Konya's "Tandır kebab"
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6-) Antep's Lahmacun
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7-) Kayseri's "Pastırma"This not really a dish but we can say it as a ingredient but you can eat it raw, which i do. In my opinion it is the best taste you can get of a meat.
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Looks delicious mate and I have actually tried some of those dishes. Number 2 and 6. 4 reminds me of our Kufta. All in all very familiar dishes.

Number 7 is unknown to me but that is because I eat very few sausages or smoked meat and I do not know much about such foods in the Arab world either.

Man, such photos should not be permitted to post. Makes people hungry and thus ultimately overweight.

 

[-SINAN-]

Looks delicious mate and I have actually tried some of those dishes. Number 2 and 6. 4 reminds me of our Kufta. All in all very familiar dishes.

Mate we call it Köfte. But köfte means cooked meatballs. Çiğ Köfte means Raw Köfte, which is made by raw meat. You take minced meat with no fat, and mix it with spices, cooker mix the mixture for 1 hours. Result is awesome.

Number 7 is unknown for me but that is because I eat very few sausages or smoked meat and I do not know much about such foods in the Arab world either.

I'm not quiet sure how it is made. And it's a complex prosess... as far i know, they salt the meats, rinse, dry, add spice.... they do these things in some order, and repeat some of the process. It takes weeks to finish.

Man, such photos should not be permitted to post. Makes people hungry and thus ultimately overweight.

Tell me about it.

 

[al-Hasani]

@Sinan

It has the exact same meaning in Arabic. The name is not important here as we are just talking about meatballs. It can be made in so many ways and is a discipline in itself. I think that each Arab country has their own style with different kinds of meat, spices etc. Some also use various nuts etc. Often it is eaten with a tomato sauce were garlic, olive oil etc. is part of it. I think this dish is found across the Muslim world.

Actually this is the local Hijazi variant of a pizza. It's known for its thickness and can be eaten with everything from meat to fish and just vegetables. Might be connected with Lahmucan or similar dishes.

I was thinking about something. Most of us in the ME, when preparing meat, are either grilling the meat, roasting it or smoking it and to a smaller degree boiling it.

What about this way of preparing meat? This is a very popular and traditional way of doing lamb (usually a young and small sized lamb for the good taste). Other meats can also be used. The dishes of such meat are often eaten with basmati rice and a mixture of spices are used and things you eat during meze. Basically appetizers such as various salads, hummus, tabula, Arab bread, olives, vegetables, nuts, various sauces and diary products (more often then not yoghurt).



Anyway what I meant with that way of preparing lamb (and meat in general) is that this kind of meat is cooked in a tandoor (oven) or a hole is dug in the ground and covered inside by clay. The meat gets very tender and the smoke also makes the meat special.

Watch until the end in both of the last videos!

Such dishes are called mandi and haneeth. You have something similar?

Anyway the two videos will explain it better than me.

 

[Zaalim]

Turks and Araps eat more meat than Pakistanis and Afghans?

I don't believe, sorry.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Mate, Nigerian cuisine has nothing to do with Horn of Africa cuisine. That cuisine is very similar to ME cuisine (Arab and others) and South Asian cuisine. With some Italian touches due to that region being under Italian rule for about 100 years or so.

I have never tried African cuisine either outside of Horn of Africa cuisine. By African I mean everything South of Sahara. You should try North African Arab/Berber cuisine. The cuisines from Morocco to Egypt. You will notice a lot of similarities. Also between Southern European cuisines nearby.

I have no clue about Nigerian cuisine I have to admit.

In France you will have no problem finding Moroccan, Algerian, Tunisian, Egyptian, Lebanese, Syrian etc. cuisine due to the very big Arab diaspora there. In Germany there are also some Arab restaurants. I have been at one in Munich. Not sure about Switzerland as I have only eaten at fast food "restaurants" there and those restaurants along the highway. Outside of a stop we did in Lugano and that's just the Italian part of Switzerland so the cuisine was very similar to Northern Italian.

Well, Arabs are not as extreme as Chinese, Africans and many other peoples but we eat almost everything that is meat outside of pork obviously. Lamb, chicken, beef, turkey, wild meat, camel etc. Yes, and some even eat lizards (read Uromastyx microlepis or dabb as it is called by Najdis) and this is eaten by some people in Najd (not really elsewhere in KSA or the Arab world for that matter) and it is considered a delicacy. Those reptiles are only eating plants and are not poisonous and rather clean animals. Harmless too. They are just scary looking for some. Apparently it tastes like chicken meat. @Irfan Baloch has tried it but most Saudi Arabians let alone Hijazis have never tried it and won't ever try it. It's mostly the older generation of SOME Najdis and they made their children eat it. At the end of the day they are meat as any other meat and nothing compared to what Chinese etc. eat. Still many non-Arabs use this insult against Arabs rather ignorantly.

Oh, we have the same view of horses. Nobody eats horses. It's looked down upon as we love horses.

Also of course we drink TON of coffee and tea and numerous juices.

I really should write a book or two…

Alhamdolillah, I inherited love for Arabian food from my parents. the Yemani Daal (lintels) and steam roasted chicken with khubs (nnan bread) with the authentic Saudi chili sauce and happy dose of carbonated drinks to wash them all down..those were the days when we used to travel for umrah or shopping to a major city out of our military border town of Sharurah.

@Mosamania is correct about Saudis being wasteful when it comes to food.. but boy they do cook so well.

 

[al-Hasani]

Alhamdolillah, I inherited love for Arabian food from my parents. the Yemani Daal (lintels) and steam roasted chicken with khubs (nnan bread) with the authentic Saudi chili sauce and happy dose of carbonated drinks to wash them all down..

Mate, can you tell us how it tastes? All I know is that the people who eat it, eat it roasted and with basmati rice, tomato sauce and various appetizers (read meze). Of course also duggus which is the hot sauce that you are referring to.

Have you tried saleeg? It is a Hijazi dish.

Saleeg — a Saudi dish that won’t let you down | Arab News

 

[xenon54 out]

Mate, what I meant is that Switzerland as a country and a modern-day state might be old (about 700 years - just googled) but what about their culture, traditions, things that made them distinguished etc. before that period? It's not like in our part of the world or the Arab world were we have millennium old cultures that are largely similar of a Semitic stock (now influenced by Arabic culture which itself is part of that) and distinctive historical regions. Just like you Turks share a recent history or at least a Turkic history. Many of the modern-day states might be young countries (I would rather say nation states) but that's not the case with their culture, traditions, the land they live on and their connection to that land and previous civilizations on that land.

Well there isnt much tradition there, Swiss was a poor peasants state for most of its history, just usual European stuff such as festivals and music from strange instruments.

So this is something that I wondered about. Are the people who speak Romansh language considered as the natives or do people not operated with such a thing? Also are there not a rivalry between the German, French and Italian parts?

Yes they are natives but the numbers who speak that language is very low, and no there is no rivalty between languages because German rules them all, we had French in School obligatory but never really learned it, i hate that language it sounds strange but the people from French and Italian part most speak also German.

 

[-SINAN-]

@Sinan

It has the exact same meaning in Arabic. The name is not important here as we are just talking about meatballs. It can be made in so many ways and is a discipline in itself. I think that each Arab country has their own style with different kinds of meat, spices etc. Some also use various nuts etc. Often it is eaten with a tomato sauce were garlic, olive oil etc. is part of it. I think this dish is found across the Muslim world.

Actually this is the local Hijazi variant of a pizza. It's known for its thickness and can be eaten with everything from meat to fish and just vegetables. Might be connected with Lahmucan or similar dishes.

I was thinking about something. Most of us in the ME, when preparing meat, are either grilling the meat, roasting it or smoking it and to a smaller degree boiling it.

What about this way of preparing meat? This is a very popular and traditional way of doing lamb (usually a young and small sized lamb for the good taste). Other meats can also be used. The dishes of such meat are often eaten with basmati rice and a mixture of spices are used and things you eat during meze. Basically appetizers such as various salads, hummus, tabula, Arab bread, olives, vegetables, nuts, various sauces and diary products (more often then not yoghurt).



Anyway what I meant with that way of preparing lamb (and meat in general) is that this kind of meat is cooked in a tandoor (oven) or a hole is dug in the ground and covered inside by clay. The meat gets very tender and the smoke also makes the meat special.

Watch until the end in both of the last videos!

Such dishes are called mandi and haneeth. You have something similar?

Anyway the two videos will explain it better than me.

Muhahaha. Hasani we have everyone of these dishes. It's amazing.

Mate, after being PDF for 2 years. I can say we have similar food with, Arabs, Iranians, Greeks, Turkics and Black sea region. Maybe that's the reason why Turkish cuisine is very rich....

 

[Neptune]

Mate....going with not only kebab with my top list meat dishes


1-) Erzurum's "Oltu Cag Kebab"
View attachment 158312

2-) Bursa's "İskender"
View attachment 158313
3-) Beyti
View attachment 158314
4-) Adıyaman's "Çiğ Köfte"
View attachment 158315
5-) Konya's "Tandır kebab"
View attachment 158308
6-) Antep's Lahmacun
View attachment 158317
7-) Kayseri's "Pastırma"This not really a dish but we can say it as a ingredient but you can eat it raw, which i do. In my opinion it is the best taste you can get of a meat.
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You are a bastard you know that right?

 

[Neptune]

@Sinan

I was thinking about something. Most of us in the ME, when preparing meat, are either grilling the meat, roasting it or smoking it and to a smaller degree boiling it.

What about this way of preparing meat? This is a very popular and traditional way of doing lamb (usually a young and small sized lamb for the good taste). Other meats can also be used. The dishes of such meat are often eaten with basmati rice and a mixture of spices are used and things you eat during meze. Basically appetizers such as various salads, hummus, tabula, Arab bread, olives, vegetables, nuts, various sauces and diary products (more often then not yoghurt).



Anyway what I meant with that way of preparing lamb (and meat in general) is that this kind of meat is cooked in a tandoor (oven) or a hole is dug in the ground and covered inside by clay. The meat gets very tender and the smoke also makes the meat special.

Watch until the end in both of the last videos!

Such dishes are called mandi and haneeth. You have something similar?

Anyway the two videos will explain it better than me.

You are a bastard as well.

 

[rmi5]

@ResurgentIran So, you said that you are originally from Kerman? look what I found for your hometown:

زادسر خبر داد: روستايي با اهالي غارنشين در كرمان كشف شده است





It's the funniest thing that I have read in my life

 

[al-Hasani]

Well there isnt much tradition there, Swiss was a poor peasants state for most of its history, just usual European stuff such as festivals and music from strange instruments.

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Yes they are natives but the numbers who speak that language is very low, and no there is no rivalty between languages because German rules them all, we had French in School obligatory but never really learned it, i hate that language it sounds strange but the people from French and Italian part most speak also German.

Well us Arabs and Semites of the ME are the original peasants since we were the ones that created agriculture. We are the original rednecks.

In all seriousness then the vast majority of the population in a given civilization or culture, until the industrial revolution, were living of land in one way or another. Of course you had richer and poorer societies and Switzerland was not part of the "rich club" until fairly recently.

That's some wicked musical instrument right there!

What did you just say? French is a fantastic language. Yes, I know that German is the dominant language! That's cool. I guess that the Romansh speaking people are even bigger nationalists!

Muhahaha. Hasani we have everyone of these dishes. It's amazing.

Mate, after being PDF for 2 years. I can say we have similar food with, Arabs, Iranians, Greeks, Turkics and Black sea region. Maybe that's the reason why Turkish cuisine is very rich....

That's amazing. Did not expect that. True. Those cuisines are all very similar. I think, as I wrote in post 4350, then only the the only somewhat distinctive cuisines in the ME I can think of are that of Southern Arabia, Hijaz and the "Khaliji" (Eastern Arabia) of the Arabian Peninsula and that's mainly because we tend to use much more spices than traditional Turkish, Greek, Caucasian and Iranian cuisines etc. which is due to the trade with South Asia, Horn of Africa and especially South East Asia. We also have something that we share with those parts of the world which is making rice with coconut and dozens of other dishes and ingredients that might be foreign or rare to other ME cuisines. Here I am talking about Southern Arabia mainly though. Parts of Yemen, Oman and Hijaz as I told.

In general most ME cuisines are very similar. Very similar.

You are a bastard you know that right?

It is my pleasure to be a bastard when the occasion calls for it.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adana_kebabı

Guys before you marry then secure the "food line" first. If she fails you must dumb her and marry another.

 

[xenon54 out]

What did you just say? French is a fantastic language. Yes, I know that German is the dominant language! That's cool. I guess that the Romansh speaking people are even bigger nationalists!

French sound lé Gay.