Arabian Gulf: the Cradle of Civilisation?

[raptor22]

There is an Arabian sea but there is no Arabian gulf.

 

[Rusty]

Not sure about Ancient civilization, but there is sure as hell no civilization here now

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

@Kaptaan @Arbiter @Talwar e Pakistan

 

[Full Moon]

There is an Arabian sea but there is no Arabian gulf.

If you name the Arabian Sea the Persian Sea, I don't think that Arabs would care much. It is your language at the end of the day, and you could use it the way you like. When we say Al Khaleej Al Arabi, it is simply our own business, and the more Persians get loud about it, the more we insist.

 

[Muhammed45]

Arabs have a long history of civilization as we do, but that gulf is Persian gulf. Syria and Iraq had been cradle of civilization when Europeans were wearing leaves as clothing, Syrians had dynasties of empires. Also Iraq was the land of prophets. @Malik Alashter
Most of academician Arab people would agree with the term of Persian gulf coz it is based on historical facts and old scrolls.
Those delusional degenerated monarchs are dreaming of being a supa-powa that can change the history. They proved their savageness in Yemen, how they are slaughtering an oppressed but brave Arabic people.
After all no one can change the history ::

 

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

Arabs can name it whatever they like in their living rooms, Gulf of dilmun, Gulf of Abraham, Gulf of saud, Gulf of Basra etc. We'll use the international recognized name: Persian Gulf and when there is pushed to change geographical names we'll intervene.

 

[azzo]

It's actually now called the Gulf of Omar ibn Al khattab.

 

[Full Moon]

Arabs can name it whatever they like in their living rooms, Gulf of dilmun, Gulf of Abraham, Gulf of saud, Gulf of Basra etc. We'll use the international recognized name: Persian Gulf and when there is pushed to change geographical names we'll intervene.

OK, intervene.

 

[TheCamelGuy]

We should have called it the Gulf of Saddam Hussein Abd al-Majid al-Tikriti during 1980-1988.

@TheCamelGuy would agree.

This is a nice name actually for the gulf. About the man himself, his agressive behavior was more suitable for a general. Diplomacy requires soft approach, flexibility and compromising otherwise bad things happen to that country, starting with isolation. We see that with many states ruled by 'strongmen'. Maybe that's a benefit to have more women in some upper positions to balance this as they're always more inclined to compromise rather than take an aggressive stance, though that's not good for military (leadership) in my opinion.

 

[Sargon of Akkad]

This is a nice name actually for the gulf. About the man himself, his agressive behavior was more suitable for a general. Diplomacy requires soft approach, flexibility and compromising otherwise bad things happen to that country, starting with isolation. We see that with many states ruled by 'strongmen'. Maybe that's a benefit to have more women in some upper positions to balance this as they're always more inclined to compromise rather than take an aggressive stance, though that's not good for military (leadership) in my opinion.

I am just kidding about that name. As for the name, I think that Gulf of Sumer or Gulf of Dilmun is the most sufficient name historically as those are the oldest civilizations found alongside the Gulf.
Not a Ba'athi as you know nor do I support most of what Saddam did. However on certain fronts (security, women rights, strong military, patriotism, calling for Arab unity (in practice it occurred differently as we all know), preventing adventurous troublemakers like Barzani stealing land, foreign interference (Mullahism) etc. Al-Assad would not be that bad either if he was not such a brutal person. I (my family) visited Syria (Damascus, Palmyra etc.) for holidays before the conflict in 2000 and it was actually a great trip. The Ba'athi ideology actually has good things about it but in practice rulers claiming to be Baathists have been bad. In general none of the rulers in the Arab world except for very few, are good overall, and there could be much, much better alternatives.

As for females, I think that Arab females will save our region eventually. Some of the most famous female rulers in history have been Arab (Queen Sheeba, Queen Zenobia etc.) actually so I would definitely support Arab women ruling. Our women are more educated than the men in many Arab countries and more hardworking. Not a feminist (lol) but this is actually the truth.

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

The Oldest Map Carved in Stone near Roman Colosseum calls it the Persian Gulf.

Arabs were insignificant and have been destroyers of civilizations, God Blessed Arabs with a prophet, like the jews, Arabs kept waging wars on him till he died and then killed off all his family for ruling position.

Arabs tried to expand into Europe and Persia and got their *** kicked and ruined by Crusaders, Then Mongols also destroyed them,

Arabs always claiming other peoples civilization and things, like an prominent arab scholer said, to watch out from those from the Beduin Saudi Region, they are cowardly, and dont like hard work, so they will steal from those who live in normal lands, but if you are in mountains arabs wont come to steal from you, I am quoting someone here, not my own words.

Today 40% of Arab Population is Obese.

"The Arabs will be destroyed" Prophet Mohammad Said, Shahi Bukhari and Shahi Muslim Hadits.

"The Horns of the Devil will Rise from Njad" Prophet Mohammad Said.. (Saudi Arabia and Wahhabis / Saudi Family Comes from Njad)

Arabs lack civilization and now want to claim Mesopotamian, Egyptian, Indus, Roman and Persian Civilizations and Achievements.

Arabs were a nobody even 100 years ago, mark my words.

I will see the destruction of the Arab race and so will you.

Arabs did expand into Europe

It was actually a wonderful state.

As for the Crusades we all know what Arabs did to those guys.

We all know what Egyptian Arabs did to the Mongols

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ain_Jalut

 

[Hack-Hook]

Look at how obsessive Iranians get when that small and shallow body of water is not called what they want it to be called. Despite the fact that their Greek conquerors gave the name of that small shallow water and despite the fact that much older civilizations and cultures (almost all Semitic) in the Arab world such as Dilmun (KSA, Bahrain and Eastern Arabia in general), Sumer (Southern Iraq), Magan (Oman) etc. bordered that small shallow body of water millennia before anything such as Iran even existed as an entity let alone Persians.

It is like they think that they own this small shallow body of water despite them being the only non-Arab country bordering that water and despite the Arab countries having much longer sea borders along that small shallow body of water.

A few of the seas, gulfs, straits, rivers etc. named after Arabs or Arab countries/names.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab's_Gulf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Oman

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabian_Sea

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shatt_al-Arab

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Aden

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libyan_Sea

At different times in history different seas were named differently.






In ancient times the beautiful Red Sea (bigger and more beautiful than the Gulf and also a tropical sea which only the Great Barrier Reef can rival in terms of marine life and coral reefs) was named the Arabian Gulf and Sinus Arabicus.



Arabs litterary have numerous of international seas, straits, gulfs, rivers etc. on 2 continents and from the Atlantic Ocean to the Indian Ocean named after them.

Yet, Persians are obsessing about the name of one small shallow Gulf where Arabs live on both sides of it. Moreover the ancestors of Arabs (Semites) are natives to those land and have older indigenous civilizations in those lands.

The Persians/Iranians even use the Arabic Khalij as well. They call it Khalije Fars.

It should be called the Gulf of Dilmun or the Gulf of Sumer actually.

Anyway let the crying continue from the Gulf of Oman country, lol.







Using that logic there is no river called Arvand Rud. It's called Shatt al-Arab. Yet it does not prevent Iranians from calling it Arvand Rud, does it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shatt_al-Arab

As far as I recall Turks call the Gulf for the Gulf of Basra.

So the original inhabitants of this region and the inheritors of the oldest civilizations found along the Gulf will continue to call it Al-Khalij Al-Arabi.

PS. I don't care about the name of this Gulf although when the word Gulf is mentioned in the world most people think about the Arabian states that border the Gulf



We should have called it the Gulf of Saddam Hussein Abd al-Majid al-Tikriti during 1980-1988.

@TheCamelGuy would agree.

Fun aside, back to topic.

well it shows you guys Obsession that there is two Arab Gulf and now you want to go and change another water way name to Arabian Gulf from the historical and correct name of Persian Gulf.

and no if you say gulf without any thing else people think of Gulf of Mexico.

about Arvand Rood . well you bring the oldest document that call it Shat-al-Arab and I bring an older one that call it Arvand Rood

 

[AmirPatriot]

Thats a ratio of about 20:1. 20 times more searches for "Persian Gulf" than the fictitious "Arabian Gulf". You're outnumbered, at best, by 20 to 1, realistically even more considering how many people only search for "Arabian Gulf" to read about the "dispute".

(this webpage explains why I used quotation marks in the google searches)

By the way, nice BS you're spreading in other threads in this sub-forum Hasani, really good pile of manure there. Keep it up

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

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Thats a ratio of about 20:1. 20 times more searches for "Persian Gulf" than the fictitious "Arabian Gulf". You're outnumbered, at best, by 20 to 1, realistically even more considering how many people only search for "Arabian Gulf" to read about the "dispute".

(this webpage explains why I used quotation marks in the google searches)

By the way, nice BS you're spreading in other threads in this sub-forum Hasani, really good pile of manure there. Keep it up

Are you seriously arguing over the name of the place? Persian or Arab, it doesn't matter.

 

[AmirPatriot]

Are you seriously arguing over the name of the place?

There is no argument. I am bringing to attention how outnumbered certain delusional individuals are when they are trying to fake world history and heritage.