Arabian Gulf: the Cradle of Civilisation?

[MultaniGuy]

I thought Mesopotamia was the cradle of civilization.

 

[KediKesenFare3]

I thought Mesopotamia was the cradle of civilization.

You're right. Anatolia/Mesopotamia are older than any Arabian civilization. To be fair, one must admit that the world has more than one "cradle of civilization". In fact, people founded new civilizations independently in several places around the globe. These places always had similar environmental conditions even though they were on different continents. One was Mesopotamia/Anatolia, another one was in Middle America. Unfortunately, I forget the rest.

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Current scholarship generally identifies six sites where civilization emerged independently: Mesopotamia, the Nile River, the Indus River, the Yellow River, the Central Andes, and Mesoamerica.[6][14][15][16][17][18][19][20][21]

 

[Hold up]

Why only Mesopotamia? The whole fertile crescent gave rise to civilisations

 

[XenoEnsi-14]

Thread title should be Arabian Plate not Gulf.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Continued:

Thanks for proving us to be correct. if you looked closer you have seen that all your posts belongs to the areas near the actual Arabian gulf aka Red Sea and had nothing to do with Persian Gulf.

 

[mohsen]

Theories VS the History!

 

[The SC]

Even founder of Saudi Arabia, King Abdolaziz Al-Saud has used the name of Persian Gulf in his letter

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You are talking about recent history and the thread is about ancient history, it precedes the recent and is totally different. If you take a look at the opening post of the thread you'll see that there was no Gulf in there at all..

I thought Mesopotamia was the cradle of civilization.

It was part of the fertile crescent civilizations that extended from Arabia to the Indus valley..

 

[raptor22]

If you name the Arabian Sea the Persian Sea, I don't think that Arabs would care much. It is your language at the end of the day, and you could use it the way you like. When we say Al Khaleej Al Arabi, it is simply our own business, and the more Persians get loud about it, the more we insist.

It is not only me and my people and my language that call this water body as Persian gulf, it's a historical and international recognized name by the UN . Furthermore all maps before 1960 called it Persian gulf .. Arabic, English Spanish, Greek , Roman and Islamic maps say it Persian gulf , even till 60s your own country maps called it Persian gulf ....
it's just Arab nationalism that makes you call it by a fake name which surly against historical and scientific facts.

 

[100]

You are talking about recent history and the thread is about ancient history, it precedes the recent and is totally different. If you take a look at the opening post of the thread you'll see that there was no Gulf in there at all..


It was part of the fertile crescent civilizations that extended from Arabia to the Indus valley..

My objection was about the first sentence of your article which used a false name for the water way know as Persian Gulf.

 

[Full Moon]

It is not only me and my people and my language that call this water body as Persian gulf, it's a historical and international recognized name by the UN . Furthermore all maps before 1960 called it Persian gulf .. Arabic, English Spanish, Greek , Roman and Islamic maps say it Persian gulf , even till 60s your own country maps called it Persian gulf ....
it's just Arab nationalism that makes you call it by a fake name which surly against historical and scientific facts.

In terms of actual historical names, one would have to look up what the Sumerians or Akkadians used in their life time to name the Gulf. I am sure they had their own versions of names which will better qualify as "historical names".

 

[MultaniGuy]

Indus river civilization is also a cradle of civilization. Not just Mesopotamia.

 

[The SC]

My objection was about the first sentence of your article which used a false name for the water way know as Persian Gulf.

Take it in the context of that time and space..

"The Arabian Gulf is an elongated basin some 250km in width and around 1,000km in depth. It is bounded to the west by the deserts of the Arabian peninsula, to the east by the Zagros mountain range and to the north by the Mesopotamian floodplain. The sea is one of the shallowest in the world, averaging only 35m in depth. During the glacial period in the northern continents sea level worldwide was 120m lower than in the modern era, and along the basin of the Gulf ran a prehistoric river, the Shatt-Al-Arab, discharging into the Indian Ocean at the Straits of Hormuz."

 

[100]

Take it in the context of that time and space..

"The Arabian Gulf is an elongated basin some 250km in width and around 1,000km in depth. It is bounded to the west by the deserts of the Arabian peninsula, to the east by the Zagros mountain range and to the north by the Mesopotamian floodplain. The sea is one of the shallowest in the world, averaging only 35m in depth. During the glacial period in the northern continents sea level worldwide was 120m lower than in the modern era, and along the basin of the Gulf ran a prehistoric river, the Shatt-Al-Arab, discharging into the Indian Ocean at the Straits of Hormuz."

A.R.A.B.I.A.N Gulf is a false name and is not recognized by UN. United Nation has asked all countries to use the correct term, The Persian Gulf.

In terms of actual historical names, one would have to look up what the Sumerians or Akkadians used in their life time to name the Gulf. I am sure they had their own versions of names which will better qualify as "historical names".

Persian Gulf street in Cairo, Egypt

 

[The SC]

We do not argue about that at all, The article was talking about the Area where there was no gulf nor Persia per se to start with, so let's keep it in that context please..

 

[khanz]

what is the hell arabian gulf no such thing ? whole world knows it as persian gulf . Lets start calling arabian sea as pakistani sea because we border it lol