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How can a Pakistani apologise to all Indians who blame us for everything? MAybe he is a RAW agent but you really need to get a life dude.

u need to do it as well :cheesy:, wht i meant was, cross fires happen here and every where(fires from both the sides), so anybody doesnt need to apologize for nothing, pakistanis r more use to this, so, either, a thread should be made, both parties apologize each other or nothing!!!, and by the way, indians r more often banned then pakistanis(my observation), and after all u can be sure of mods sincerety ayeee!!
 
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stop hounding a fellow pakistani just because he realised the gravity of the issue at hand! You should get over framing anyone who is not like you or correspond with your views as a RAW agent!

Yes, I shall stop but when I sign up in an Indian forum I get deleted only because I am Pakistani! So all pro-Indian Pakistanis (who are certainly not Pakistanis) shouldn't be annoyed but a normal Pakistani should shut his mouth , that's your oppinion, isn't it?!
 
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Yes, I shall stop but when I sign up in an Indian forum I get deleted only because I am Pakistani! So all pro-Indian Pakistanis (who are certainly not Pakistanis) shouldn't be annoyed but a normal Pakistani should shut his mouth , that's your oppinion, isn't it?!

i said to get over it, bcoz, seriously dude, the person who gets hyper, esp online, and fights a cyber war, doesnt tend to make any difference(and needs to get a life), what v pakistanis shuld all do, is to leave all kinds of people and let them be in their own way, v dont judge ourselves by comparing with others, v pakistanis r forgiving by nature, islam says to forgive and walk in a positive way!!, and by the way, (most of us fight india pakistan war here esp abusing each other, bcoz, v r bored by our busy life and need to chill:lol:)
 
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Yes, I shall stop but when I sign up in an Indian forum I get deleted only because I am Pakistani! So all pro-Indian Pakistanis (who are certainly not Pakistanis) shouldn't be annoyed but a normal Pakistani should shut his mouth , that's your oppinion, isn't it?!

I want to know which Indian forum you were talking about...
 
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Yes, I shall stop but when I sign up in an Indian forum I get deleted only because I am Pakistani! So all pro-Indian Pakistanis (who are certainly not Pakistanis) shouldn't be annoyed but a normal Pakistani should shut his mouth , that's your oppinion, isn't it?!
Stop all this Pro Pakistani, Pro India Pro Uganda!!!! Please, be Pro Humanity, Be Pro Truth!
 
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If people with dark skin didn't get jobs in India, the whole of South India would be unemployed. As it happens, South India contains the majority of Indian jobs. What does that indicate to you?

I think in South India, the lighter skinned "dark people" get the jobs.

I've seen North India anyway. The people look like South Indians.
 
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I think in South India, the lighter skinned "dark people" get the jobs.

I've seen North India anyway. The people look like South Indians.

I am currently in Hyderabad in South India.

Let me confirm that your thinking is wrong. The skin tone is not a factor, merit is.
 
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It is true that pigmentation varies across the world, but what is the point of mentioning it in a post, as was done in the thread that was referred to, unless it was derogatory?

There is a place for such references and arguments - for example RR's prior arguments on the physical differences between Indians and Pakistanis, or for that matter if you were trying to compare any two races or peoples.

But when you start throwing in references to skin color when there is no need, then it does take on racist overtones.

I see no other way to read - 'blond white girls were assaulted by dark skinned creatures.'

Or even if you substituted 'creature' with people. That someone was assaulted, where they were assaulted, and by whom (identity - nationality) should have been enough.
 
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I agree that an obsession with becoming fairer is not very healthy, but its hardly the most pressing problem in the world, when compared to hunger and terrorism and extremism etc.

Also, it has nothing to do with an inferiority complex. Infact, the the thought that people who desire fair skin have an inferiority complex stems from the idea that people with dark skin are inferior to fair people.
Obviously, the people making this interpretation expose their own racist mentality.

The standard for beauty in society usually has nothing to do with race. Are we to believe that the obsession with getting tanned in the west, to the extent of using tanning salons and tanning creams has to do with some inferioirty complex too?
Obviously you would not make that interpretation, because of your belief that since white people are 'superior' to dark people, they would not want to be like them.

Racial prejudice on the other hand happens in every society, and not just India. I'm quite certain that considering the attitudes displayed towards dark skinned people on this forum, the prejudice towards dark skin is far worse in Pakistan than it is in India.

Good looking people are more likely to get a better job, and better pay not just in India, but all over the world. That is just the natural human tendency to subconciously form a positive impression about good looking people. And this has nothing to do with skin tone. There are dark skinned people with good looks who get favoured as well.



If people with dark skin didn't get jobs in India, the whole of South India would be unemployed. As it happens, South India contains the majority of Indian jobs. What does that indicate to you?

The problem with you guys is that you try to generalize something about a country which is so vast and so diverse that it is impossible to generalize anything about it at all.

Okay very well manufactured and carefully written diagnosis Sir.

Now couple of points I would like to address here.

Also, it has nothing to do with an inferiority complex.

Think again, many reports and articles confirm that many average dark skinned Indians are purposefully using white skin creamers to raise their status in society for social purposes and economic reasons. Hence, they feel their dark skin gives them a disadvantage in some fields, therefore an inferiority, in India there are commercials, advertisements, papers, all over India advertising using "white women" specifically, never dark Indian women. Hence there is a preference in India itself to malign average darker skin Indians compared to the lighter skin ones. Also nobody suggested it only happens in India as you said, but the phenomenon in India is a very wide-spread national case which is unique.

"The standard for beauty in society usually has nothing to do with race. Are we to believe that the obsession with getting tanned in the west, to the extent of using tanning salons and tanning creams has to do with some inferioirty complex too? Obviously you would not make that interpretation, because of your belief that since white people are 'superior' to dark people, they would not want to be like them."

Yes in many societies beauty has nothing to do with "race" but in many societies it does have to do with "skin color", there is a technical difference between race and skin, you seem to fail to understand.

Now the reason why many women in the west may get a tan, and using tanning salons, and tanning creams is not necessarily to raise their economic and social status in society as the average dark skin Indian using "Fair & Handsome" and other skin whiting cream...

With all respect to you and your country Sir. It is simply for having beautiful skin or just enriching their already white skin to simply a better tone. Also some Doctors suggest for people who have really white skin to tan for health reasons as darker skin protects your skin better from the Sun...


Now what else should I pick a part here...


If people with dark skin didn't get jobs in India, the whole of South India would be unemployed. As it happens, South India contains the majority of Indian jobs. What does that indicate to you?

Please do not misquote or deliberately avoid what I really said. I never said dark skin Indians did not get "jobs" in the "whole of South India"...Now let's examine this if a dark skin Indian is in a different environment other than South India were the majority of the people are really dark skinned and were in Mumbai let's say where there are also lighter skin Indians, they may be subjected to discrimination as the environment is different...

Also I said many don't achieve "good jobs" this goes for the whole of India...Though they can overcome this with good education and family support...

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Regards and Namaste to the Indian community from A1Kaid
 
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Let me show you some achievers of India irrespective of their skin color.

Narayan Murthy: Ex CEO of Infosys

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RamaDorai: CEO of TCS



APJ Abdul Kalam: Ex. President of India

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And many many more.

Visit any IT major in India and have a look at the management as well as the employees. Visit any manufacturing plant and do the same. Go to the topmost banks, financial institutes, PR firms anywhere and you will see that skin color doesn't play any major role.

It may play a role in certain type of jobs like airhostesses, TV or movie industry etc. but even there there are several dusky actors and actresses that have made it big.

The color tone is not a major issue in India. It doesn't come in the way of what you can achieve.

The "Fair and Handsome" and "Fair and Lovely" ads may mislead you into believing otherwise but isn't that what they are intended to do? To increase their sales!
 
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