Xeric
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Abu, i didnt have a guud laugh for sometime. Thanks for allowing me oneChing-Chong-Cheng
So what is the "impact" of all these developments? Are these areas now more law abiding? Have they expelled out the extremist elements?
V Chung, you are again going against my advice and trying to find bone where it doesn't exist. Be warned, you are nearing the point where you would soon be left with something in your hand that would be highly undesirable!
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First, you tell me what should have been the impact of these projects? What exactly are you looking forward too?
Having said that, if you had paid any heed to my post # 12, you would never had asked this question especially with reference to the blasts that took place in Sibi and Islamabad primarily when the TTP has denied their responsibility.
Now i dont consider the TTP to be truthful but then there is a footprint to any terrorist activity and the blasts that took place recently doesnt have TTP's footprint. Atleast that's what the investigation thus far says. Moreover, having dealt with BRA, BLA etc i also believe that these thugs lacks the capacity to execute coordinated attacks outside the remote areas of Balochistan, so yes there is a foreign element present behind the terror attack that took place in Islamabad.
Now i also understand that this explanation would go over your head as usual and you would come up with something else that would be equally redundant. In that case, please refer to the postscript of my signature.
Now coming over to your query regarding the 'impact' these projects had or should have had.
Like i had already mentioned in post 12, both the hard and soft prong go hand in hand when countering any insurgency. What do you think is the reason behind the competitively larger possibility of a FATAian falling prey to terrorist propaganda as compared to a mainland Pakistani?
Doesnt the reasons like lack of education, desperation, poor job opportunities, under development etc ring some bells?
Who is more likely to blow himself: an illiterate villager or an educated one? A guy who has a secured job or a jobless guy who cant feed his family? You know the answers to these questions, dont you?
The schools that have been reconstructed rather refurbished, the roads that have been made better etc have resulted into increased awareness and ownness among the residents of FATA.
Dont be surprised when Malala writes in her book that she is more worried about Swat than Pakistan or so to say, for her Swat is more important then the country it is part of. Same is the case with certain Balochis. That's natural, why because they have been 'away' from "Pakistan" for so long that for them it doesn't exist.
A guy who haven't left his village and never seen Lahore or Pinidi, for him his entire world is within the boundaries of his village, and for him that is the most important place. How would he travel to mainland Pakistan if there are no roads? How would he know about our history when he has no education?
How would FATAian know about Pakistan when they only know of FCR and when they are governed by different set of laws?
These projects will help reduce these voids and gulfs.
Now a guy like you who spent most of his brains finding shytty ideas even at most holy of the places MUST have known that the impact of these projects, most of which were completed less than a year ago, would not start having effect overnight.
Do you think a school which became operational in 2013 would convert all the possible brain-washees into a healthy part of the society within a year? Or a road that became operation a few month back will increase the income of a household within days so that the residents would stop falling prey to bad money? This will take its due course and time, but yes these have started yielding fruit:
Initiatives like the central corridor will ease the trade between Pakistan and Afghanistan and would then bring prosperity. Ofcourse, unlike in your world, in the real world these changes would take its due time:
Improved communication infrastructure would allow more interaction with FATAian and rest of Pakistan and would ease when a step would be taken to abolish FCR from there. Common sense which you direly lack says that if the government could not abolish FCR in the past 6 decades, it cannot be done unless the effectees are brought on board. This is one of the way of telling the FATAians that they live in a 'different' world and that they need to change:
i am sure a thick-head like yourself would fail to understand the next three pics and thus the impact thereof:
Lesser possibility of these guys going astray, no? Or may be you think insurgencies die when the current setup running it is eliminated?
There was a reason i uploaded the entire presentation both in PDF and JPEG format so that the readers can go through them with ease in any format they like. Still i knew idiots like you would not read it and hence i also started posting the pics of the same so that you could read it without much effort, but then i guess i was wrong.
Now, coming back to your question. Do you think the US having spent 100s of millions in Afg during the 80s to defeat the USSR, if had spent even 10 million after they had achieved their aim on education and rehabilitation of Afghan Mujahideens, would there have been such a mess in Afg today?
Had those Mujahideens been given an alternative source of income and something else to do, things would have been different. But then, it would not had happened overnight.
A school constructed today would bear its fruit may be after another 10 years when a child who would have been left uneducated and would have joined the TTP when grownup, would now probably not do that as by going to that school, he is less likely to fall prey to the appeals of insurgents. But it will take its time!
For now, the impact is that FATAian now know that they have to think beyond FATA. There is a country they belong to and it is that country that takes precedence over everything else. All of these schools that have been constructed, a very few are the new ones. Majority are those that have been destroyed by the militants. Now those which have been constructed anew and those that have been expanded, have been given land by the locals free of cost. People have begged that schools should be built on their land.
What do you think this is?
This is that ownness that once lacked. People ask what's the guarantee that these schools will work once the Army has left. Well apart from the fact that the FATA Dev Authority was made part and parcel of every project and that these schools have already been there with adequate staff, the locals will ensure that these schools dont shut down as it was they who wanted a school in their area.
The impact is that children who would first listened to Mullah FM's BS 24/7 now pay attention to their books.
The kids who would wander here and there and provide intelligence to the terrorists about Army's presence for Rs 100, now spend their time in schools doing something much better.
A teenager who would attend IED classes in lieu of few bucks now concentrate over his father's business as their apples dont go waste due to the cold storage facility and they receive more return on their produce as it can reach major cities within hours instead of days.
A butcher (actual one who had a shop) who would once slaughter a human and make a video of the same for Rs 25000/- now dont do that because he has a business to tend to.
An exuberant teen who would once plant an IED during his leisure time to earn some pocket money would not do that as he can either earn the same amount by traveling to a major city or utilizing his time in a school.
Now if you think that providing medical facilities at the door step, having a school, having access to clean drinking water or good roads would prevent a hardened militant from doing his nasty business, then you are not only stupid but a rascal who deliberately try to stall a positive effort. These guys, the kind of which conducted blasts in Islamabad needs to be eliminated and soon they would be. The projects on the other hand will prevent from others doing the same in the future. Now that's common sense, something you are averse to.
You know that insurgencies are not ended just by killing the current setup of insurgents but by eliminating the root cause of insurgency in the long term, so that is the impact these projects shall have, as quoted in the Afghan example.
Things would have been better if these projects have been initiated earlier, or had Swat been taken over by the civilian administration. But then your beloved politicians and bureaucrats whom you dont like to criticize were busy looting other national corporations like the PIA and Railways.
So, i suggest that you stop thinking from your sphincter and use the watery tissue that you probably still have.
And in the end, for any further keera that you have on the subject, please refer to the last line of my signature as i dont have time for your stupid queries which could have been answered if you have bothered to go through my posts and the items i post in totality.
@Xeric - if you have an account on Image Shack try to use that. The latests posts are not showing. Ensure the link you posted is accurate. Thanks bro.
Yaar, i used flickr but it was not allowing me to embed the images, then i resorted to photobucket but i didnt know that they would have some bandwidth issues. Still, the limitation would be limited within a few days and the pics would be visible again.
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