Apple loses its shine in China

[greenwood]

 

[TaiShang]

zte is in it infrastructure business since they created the company. lenovo was making a lot profits before they bought crappy notorola phone business. very stupid of them. there are reasons why company keeps changing owner lol

Yes， I read that they are having difficulty in turning Motorola around. Perhaps they acquired for the patents, rather than the core business.

Lenovo is also having hard time adjusting given laptop shipments appear to be declining globally. Similar problem Acer is having now. They also tried mobile phones and tablet.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Yes， I read that they are having difficulty in turning Motorola around. Perhaps they acquired for the patents, rather than the core business.

Lenovo is also having hard time adjusting given laptop shipments appear to be declining globally. Similar problem Acer is having now. They also tried mobile phones and tablet.


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A forecast of declining laptop prices and sales is the reason IBM sold Lenovo their laptop business. Razor thin margins was not the market they wanted to be in.

The same thing is now happening in the smart phone market. The prices are coming down as most companies are now on an equal footing technology-wise

 

[TaiShang]

A forecast of declining laptop prices and sales is the reason IBM sold Lenovo their laptop business. Razor thin margins was not the market they wanted to be in.

The same thing is now happening in the smart phone market. The prices are coming down as most companies are now on an equal footing technology-wise

Yes, it is a cut-throat business and diversification and long-term planning is important. Lenovo made lots of money from laptops, but, it is perhaps time to move on the next big thing. I believe that global laptop market will continue to decline and smaller players will be weeded out, with a handful of major players remaining like Asus, Lenovo (and perhaps Acer) from China, HP, Dell from the US.

 

[cirr]

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[Hamartia Antidote]

Yes, it is a cut-throat business and diversification and long-term planning is important. Lenovo made lots of money from laptops, but, it is perhaps time to move on the next big thing. I believe that global laptop market will continue to decline and smaller players will be weeded out, with a handful of major players remaining like Asus, Lenovo (and perhaps Acer) from China, HP, Dell from the US.

As companies come and go to the top and bottom in the PC, laptop, and Phone business...Apple still remains in the top 5.

The #1 laptop seller in the world
The #2 phone seller in the world
The #4 desktop seller in the world

They never used price as their main weapon and they are outliving a lot of companies because of that.

So we'll see how long those 4 phone companies ahead of them last.

 

[Mista]

iPhones are overrated anyway. I don't understand why the Chinese are so crazy about it. It's only good at branding and the Chinese treat it as a status symbol to flaunt around. That's why Apple didn't even bother to innovate and brand-conscious Chinese will still buy the cheaply made product at a premium price, helping Apple to become the most profitable company in the world. Starbucks is the same.

Good to see it dropping in China.

 

[TaiShang]

iPhones are overrated anyway. I don't understand why the Chinese are so crazy about it. It's only good at branding and the Chinese treat it as a status symbol to flaunt around. That's why Apple didn't even bother to innovate and brand-conscious Chinese will still buy the cheaply made product at a premium price, helping Apple to become the most profitable company in the world. Starbucks is the same.

Good to see it dropping in China.

That's the case all over the world, what is different in China is that, China has a bunch of home grown (super) companies/innovation power-houses. What they do is to take advantage of being on their home turf, innovate and build good quality gadgets, and market them through intense commercial and promotion.

So, iDrop as fast as iRise, in China, unlike many other countries where they dominate the premium segment.

The same goes with internet like social media, search, and shopping. In most countries I have been to, I noticed US multinationals control the entire variety of online sectors; it is different in China only.

Because China's government is/was smart and able to see the future, keeping the market closed to those foreign entities in favor of domestic companies. Now, even the market is open, domestic companies already enjoy monopolistic status.

 

[Solomon2]

...The craze for Iphone was omnipresent...people just buying for the sake of it -.

Iphones are just fanboy stuff...

I know that apple products are seen as not so cool anymore...

I'm just amazed that the Mao-afflicted China I knew of around 1980 - when the idea of fashion was derided, thus civilians practically wore unisex uniforms and I'm told officers' rank was determined by counting pockets - isn't even invoked as a memory by the present generation.

I wonder what China's mores will be thirty years from now?

 

[Mista]

That's the case all over the world, what is different in China is that, China has a bunch of home grown (super) companies/innovation power-houses. What they do is to take advantage of being on their home turf, innovate and build good quality gadgets, and market them through intense commercial and promotion.

So, iDrop as fast as iRise, in China, unlike many other countries where they dominate the premium segment.

The same goes with internet like social media, search, and shopping. In most countries I have been to, I noticed US multinationals control the entire variety of online sectors; it is different in China only.

Because China's government is/was smart and able to see the future, keeping the market closed to those foreign entities in favor of domestic companies. Now, even the market is open, domestic companies already enjoy monopolistic status.

Yeah. Because China has a market large enough to promote her own variation and sustain it.

The online sector in Singapore it's mainly dominated by US MNCs.

 

[Jlaw]

iPhones are overrated anyway. I don't understand why the Chinese are so crazy about it. It's only good at branding and the Chinese treat it as a status symbol to flaunt around. That's why Apple didn't even bother to innovate and brand-conscious Chinese will still buy the cheaply made product at a premium price, helping Apple to become the most profitable company in the world. Starbucks is the same.

Good to see it dropping in China.

You said it. IT was a status symbol for the Chinese with no sense who have many cents.

 

[Mista]

You said it. IT was a status symbol for the Chinese with no sense and have many cents.

Nice pun.

I think the Chinese have overemphasized on 面子. Not just on phone, but also applies to other aspects of life.

 

[TaiShang]

Yeah. Because China has a market large enough to promote her own variation and sustain it.

The online sector in Singapore it's mainly dominated by US MNCs.

Not just the market; in my opinion, a country with the size of 40-50 million people should be able to produce home grown companies. But, luckily for some countries, perhaps, import substitution appears to be an easier way to enjoy development for some.

It has to be like this. There has to be innovators and producers as well as consumers.

 

[cnleio]

Nokia was good, Motorola was good, SONY was good, Blackberry was good ... Samsung is good, Apple is good ... "made in china" is rising up.

 

[Mista]

a country with the size of 40-50 million people should be able to produce home grown companies.

Then most province in China should have their own home grown companies each. India too.