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Apple loses its shine in China

Who in his right mind would pay 1000 USD for a machine the equivalent of which you can have for 300 USD? :lol:

I know that apple products are seen as not so cool anymore. That's the main reason for their iDrop. Same happened with HTC.

Apple will go down further. Besides, perception of own national products has changed dramatically. I see people eager to show off the Huawei logo on their P9.

:D

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Where's Lenovo? ZTE? Coolpad? These were big names. Now they aren't in the top 5 either.

ZTE is growing into something different, into an IT infrastructure company. Lenovo, too, is seeking to strengthen its PC segment and perhaps is into processor business. Their name does not give an impression of a mobile phone brand. Now, in the Mainland, it is Huawei, Oppo, Gionee, Vivo and Xiaomi that are poised to capture larger market share. I noticed, especially Oppo and Huawei have been aggressive in marketing.
 
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I know that apple products are seen as not so cool anymore. That's the main reason for their iDrop. Same happened with HTC.

Apple will go down further. Besides, perception of own national products has changed dramatically. I see people eager to show off the Huawei logo on their P9.

:D

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I did not know about Huawei Marine.

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Huawei Marine and Rostelecom Begin the Construction of Submarine Network Connecting Kamchtka-Sakhalin


[Moscow, Russia, June 21, 2016] Huawei Marine and Rostelecom started the construction of submarine fiber optical telecommunication line (SFOTL) connecting Kamchatka and Sakhalin. The construction of this 900km submarine cable constitutes the second phase of the Far East cable system that connects the regions of Kamchatka-Sakhalin-Magadan, and will be commissioned in Q1 of 2017. The new submarine cable backbone infrastructure will provide high-speed broadband internet access to the population of Kamchatka krai and Magadan oblast.

Phase One connecting Sakhalin – Magadan was completed in 2015 along with the land-based telecommunication network on the Kamchatka peninsula. This terrestrial network connects to the submarine cable in the area of Ust-Bolsheretzk, from where the submarine cable is buried beneath the seabed as it crosses the Okhotsk sea, connecting Ust-Bolsheretzk in Kamchatka with Okha residential point in Sakhalin. This will alleviate the dependence on the existing communication lines connecting Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky in four times as compared to the current land route which passes empty lands in the area of permafrost and very complex climate conditions.

The SFOTL project construction has total length of over 1855 km, in addition to the land based fibre network construction. The system capacity is 400 Gbps and is upgradeable in the future to a total capacity of 8 Tbps.

The works on laying of submarine cable are fulfilled by Huawei Marine, a joint venture subsidiary of Huawei, using a specialist cable installation vessel, Cable Innovator. The vessel is over 145.m in length and cable store a total of 8.5 thousand tonnes of cable.

Huawei Marine has developed and deployed numerous submarine cable projects throughout the world, including the Middle East, Africa, Asia and South America.

Nikolay Nikiforov, the Minister of Telecommunication and Mass Communication of Russia commented the course of the project: “Laying of SFOTL is not a mere construction but a large-scale infrastructural project which will provide the citizens with a set of services necessary in their everyday life. Thanks to high-rate internet access the residents of Kamchatka, Sakhalin and Magadan will access the state electronic services, remote education and telemedicine. In combination with well-operating post service communication infrastructure is also the basis for the development of small business”.

Sergey Kalugin, the President of Rostelecom, said: “Optical cable backbone is one of the most important projects of Rostelecom. SFOTL construction will allow us eliminating the digital divide in the Far East region. We are positive that SFOTL “Kamchatka-Sakhalin-Magadan” will create a possibility for maximum penetration of the widest range of the modern telecommunication services for the population, business and state sector in the Far East”.

Aiden Wu, CEO of Huawei Russia, added: “This is the first project for Huawei on the construction of submarine cable system in Russia. It is a good chance for us to contribute to the solution of digital divide problem. We are confident of a successful installation of Phase Two of this important project that will bring high-speed internet connectivity to change the lives of people in the Far East”.
 
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Iphones are just fanboy stuff. Offer nothing unique anymore. add to it, no external memory expansion support, not easy file manager, no easy file transfer/sharing. It is just not worth it. It looks good, and has a good brand image, that is it. No, not for me. I would rather change my phone every 6 months with cheap chinese phones.
 
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Iphones are just fanboy stuff. Offer nothing unique anymore. add to it, no external memory expansion support, not easy file manager, no easy file transfer/sharing. It is just not worth it. It looks good, and has a good brand image, that is it. No, not for me. I would rather change my phone every 6 months with cheap chinese phones.

Get this one. Rather cheap for the average Indian.


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When I was in China, even an labour moving boxes in a factory had an Iphone. I first thought it was a cheap copy of Iphone, but after handling it, found it was authentic. The craze for Iphone was omnipresent. Everyone from CEO to normal guys had it.
For somereason I always hated Iphone. They sell at such an inflated costs, making more profits than usual and people just buying for the sake of it.

Will never buy one for sure.
 
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When I was in China, even an labour moving boxes in a factory had an Iphone. I first thought it was a cheap copy of Iphone, but after handling it, found it was authentic. The craze for Iphone was omnipresent. Everyone from CEO to normal guys had it.
For somereason I always hated Iphone. They sell at such an inflated costs, making more profits than usual and people just buying for the sake of it.

Will never buy one for sure.

China is definitely a big market. Even iDrop to 5th place, it is still a good feat for a foreign brand. In my opinion, they will come down to a healthy 8th place and stick in that realm for sometime to come.

Domestic producers are just warming up.
 
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When I was in China, even an labour moving boxes in a factory had an Iphone. I first thought it was a cheap copy of Iphone, but after handling it, found it was authentic. The craze for Iphone was omnipresent. Everyone from CEO to normal guys had it.
For somereason I always hated Iphone. They sell at such an inflated costs, making more profits than usual and people just buying for the sake of it.

Will never buy one for sure.
My problem with Icraps is that despite having insanely high unjustified price tag they don't even have top notch performance. Camera's are OK, Screens are good, battery timing is atrocious, shitty closed environment and sound quality is like that of a cheap 5 dollar mp3 player. Being an audiophile this is something which i cant even tolerate at all. In sound quality Sony has no match.
 
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Chinese phone have improved a lot !! The build quality is good now.

Not long before they look like tin boxes with speakers.

Not really. China has been selling products with all level of quality for a long time, just depends what you are willing to pay. Keep in mind, all Made in China products sold in India, are the choice of Indian businessmen.
 
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ZTE is growing into something different, into an IT infrastructure company. Lenovo, too, is seeking to strengthen its PC segment and perhaps is into processor business. Their name does not give an impression of a mobile phone brand. Now, in the Mainland, it is Huawei, Oppo, Gionee, Vivo and Xiaomi that are poised to capture larger market share. I noticed, especially Oppo and Huawei have been aggressive in marketing.

Lenovo had a huge marketshare in China when subsidies were common. When more people switched to no-contract services Lenovo's phone prices shot up much more compared to the others on your list.

Lenovo simply got outpriced. Probably ZTE too.
http://www.itproportal.com/2016/05/27/lenovo-reports-first-annual-loss-six-years/

Apple still holding on even with a price higher than Lenovo and ZTE which is amazing.
 
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ZTE is growing into something different, into an IT infrastructure company. Lenovo, too, is seeking to strengthen its PC segment and perhaps is into processor business. marketing.
zte is in it infrastructure business since they created the company. lenovo was making a lot profits before they bought crappy notorola phone business. very stupid of them. there are reasons why company keeps changing owner lol
 
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Not really. China has been selling products with all level of quality for a long time, just depends what you are willing to pay. Keep in mind, all Made in China products sold in India, are the choice of Indian businessmen.
Agree, one can call them "cheap imitations" but not necessarily cheap for their price.
 
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