Apple iPhones And iPads Will Be Banned In Russia From New Year’s Day 2015--Report

[senheiser]

Apple iPhones And iPads Will Be Banned In Russia From New Year’s Day 2015--Report - International Business Times

• Pavithra Rathinavel | November 5, 2014 3:34 PM EST
  
  On Tuesday, a new report was published in Russia, creating uproar and concerns. Based on the report, Russia will be forbidding retailers from selling the Apple iPhone and iPaddevices starting from Jan. 1, 2015 i.e. New Year's Day. Notably, this ban includes the latestiPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus.
  
  
  Looking at the report, one would think, this recent development could be the aftermath of dismantling Steve Jobs' memorial in St. Petersburg. Owing to the fact that, Apple CEO Tim Cook, publicly announced that he is gay. But then, the real reason behind this ban is, in fact, Apple's cloud storage service, the iCloud. Therefore, the Russian authorities' ban on Apple products has got nothing to do with Tim Cooks' confession, says Phone Arena.
  
  According to the new Russian law, the ban is applicable to any device that uses Apple's iCloud. As readers would have guessed already, the obvious reason is that the user data saved in the iCloud is not stored locally. Apple's iCloud servers are located in the U.S. and not in Russia. Nevertheless, readers should note that this regulation is not created to take down Apple products. Instead, the rule is applicable to all online services. This includes all the different social networking sites as well.
  
  To counter this rule, Apple can move the Russian users' data to servers based out of the country. However, this move will set a wrong precedence for the company, says the same site. Meaning, many other countries might follow suit with such demands in future. Furthermore, Russia might even obligate the ban at the retail level, making it even more difficult for the Cupertino based tech giant. This also means Russian iPhone or iPad owners that use iCloud may have to go through continual scrutiny by the Russian authorities.
  
  It is worth mentioning that, back in September, Shanghai government authorities banned the use of foreign smartphones. Needles to say, Apple's iPhone models were part of the targeted list. China's People's Daily, which is apparently the official newspaper of the Communist Party, announced the ban via a tweet. "Shanghai authorities has [sic] ordered all cadres to use China-made smartphones only, a forum organized by [Beijing] University said Friday," according to the publication.

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lol huge blow for the imperialists

 

[Aepsilons]

Why ban it? This affects not only the United States' Apple Inc, but all other nations that are part of the supply chain.

I think this is a wrong move by Russia.

 

[senheiser]

Why ban it? This affects not only the United States' Apple Inc, but all other nations that are part of the supply chain.

I think this is a wrong move by Russia.

why ban it? they store their data in america.

 

[C130]

cool
if Russians really want an overpriced iphone sure there will be a black market for it

 

[Aepsilons]

why ban it? they store their data in america.

To counter the opposition Apple can move the Russian users' data to servers based out of the country. So the Russian users' data can be based in Russia.

Besides, Apple Inc is not part of the US Government or the West, its an independent company that is globalized as it is. Moscow needs to be more pragmatic about this.

 

[LeveragedBuyout]

Apple iPhones And iPads Will Be Banned In Russia From New Year’s Day 2015--Report - International Business Times

• Pavithra Rathinavel | November 5, 2014 3:34 PM EST
  
  On Tuesday, a new report was published in Russia, creating uproar and concerns. Based on the report, Russia will be forbidding retailers from selling the Apple iPhone and iPaddevices starting from Jan. 1, 2015 i.e. New Year's Day. Notably, this ban includes the latestiPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus.
  
  
  Looking at the report, one would think, this recent development could be the aftermath of dismantling Steve Jobs' memorial in St. Petersburg. Owing to the fact that, Apple CEO Tim Cook, publicly announced that he is gay. But then, the real reason behind this ban is, in fact, Apple's cloud storage service, the iCloud. Therefore, the Russian authorities' ban on Apple products has got nothing to do with Tim Cooks' confession, says Phone Arena.
  
  According to the new Russian law, the ban is applicable to any device that uses Apple's iCloud. As readers would have guessed already, the obvious reason is that the user data saved in the iCloud is not stored locally. Apple's iCloud servers are located in the U.S. and not in Russia. Nevertheless, readers should note that this regulation is not created to take down Apple products. Instead, the rule is applicable to all online services. This includes all the different social networking sites as well.
  
  To counter this rule, Apple can move the Russian users' data to servers based out of the country. However, this move will set a wrong precedence for the company, says the same site. Meaning, many other countries might follow suit with such demands in future. Furthermore, Russia might even obligate the ban at the retail level, making it even more difficult for the Cupertino based tech giant. This also means Russian iPhone or iPad owners that use iCloud may have to go through continual scrutiny by the Russian authorities.
  
  It is worth mentioning that, back in September, Shanghai government authorities banned the use of foreign smartphones. Needles to say, Apple's iPhone models were part of the targeted list. China's People's Daily, which is apparently the official newspaper of the Communist Party, announced the ban via a tweet. "Shanghai authorities has [sic] ordered all cadres to use China-made smartphones only, a forum organized by [Beijing] University said Friday," according to the publication.

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lol huge blow for the imperialists

It's unclear what Russia hopes to achieve with this move. Russia of course will slightly decrease Apple's gargantuan profits, but it will also harm Foxconn's operations in China (and thus China's export statistics). Not to mention the Russian consumers who like Apple products, and will now have to pay exorbitant prices to import them or procure them through the black market.

If Russia is serious about this issue, it will be forced to use domestically produced phones (are there competitive domestic brands in Russia?) or Chinese phones. But China is even more opaque about data storage than the US, so Russia would simply be trading the risk of US spying for the risk of Chinese spying.

The other way to look at this is that Russia's leadership, in its desperation, has adopted a cargo-cult mentality: China has a great firewall and chauvinistic procurement policy, and look at how well it's done! If we adopt the same restrictive measures, we too can prosper!

I'm not sure it works that way.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

cool
if Russians really want an overpriced iphone sure there will be a black market for it

Russia can make its own cheap equivalent of iPhone and iPad, so why they have to buy the overpriced American products?

YotaPhone :: Product :: YotaPhone

RuPad: Russia to produce its own tablet computer — RT News

 

[cnleio]

WOW ... Bear eat Apple.

 

[Schutz]

Strange but it clearly won't work, people will just buy them elsewhere. Never had an apple product myself as I have been with android since 2009 but this is a company not a nation so I fail to see the sense, shows how free your nation is when they tell you what your allowed to buy.

 

[C130]

Russia can make its own cheap equivalent of iPhone and iPad, so why they have to buy the overpriced American products?

YotaPhone :: Product :: YotaPhone

RuPad: Russia to produce its own tablet computer — RT News

pretty sure China makes these overpriced iphones. the fatcats are the ones getting wealthy off it

Russia can make knockoffs, but they don't have have the name power of APPLE that goes with it.

just like expensive cars you want to own a Mercedes or BMW because it's a status symbol. you could have Russia make something equivalent for domestic use or even export, but it doesn't have the NAME or reputation that goes with it

 

[he-man]

Stuidity what will russia use??

yota phone?

 

[Derolo]

All hail the black market

 

[ashok mourya]

Strange but it clearly won't work, people will just buy them elsewhere. Never had an apple product myself as I have been with android since 2009 but this is a company not a nation so I fail to see the sense, shows how free your nation is when they tell you what your allowed to buy.

it may be a counter to Gazprom sanctions by western world..

 

[Audio]

why ban it? they store their data in america.

Apple storing iCloud data in China, report says - CNET

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4fb8b816-2465-11e4-ae78-00144feabdc0.html

There's room for Russian users' data in Chinese servers, np. Best buds and all that! As for trust, oh, well, i'm sure you can find some common ground in your proletariat past and build on that!

 

[senheiser]

Apple storing iCloud data in China, report says - CNET

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4fb8b816-2465-11e4-ae78-00144feabdc0.html

There's room for Russian users' data in Chinese servers, np. Best buds and all that! As for trust, oh, well, i'm sure you can find some common ground in your proletariat past and build on that!

so IOS and adroid is made in china?