Apache-Chinook choppers deal to be signed soon

[Imran Khan]

Who to bech bhi le magar jo bhikhari khali jeb adh nanga sub ke samne bikne ke like khara hai woh khareedega kahan se

Foreign exchange reserves near all-time high - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

i can troll far far better but then i am not

 

[Ind4Ever]

the list of ???????target killing

Not today it's Tuesday . I don't kill on Tuesday or this month. You got ample time to call me "Ur HIGHNESS"

Or get new spiked hairstyles when I turn on the kalis

 

[45'22']

The Apache on offer was always the AH-64D Blk. III that was subsequently renamed the AH-64E

Sirjee....these birds r for army right?

 

[That Guy]

Great.
apache longbows will help us a lot in anti armour ops.Whereas Chinook's will be useful for Special Forces ops inside Pakistan and China.

Weren't some Pakistanis like @Donatello and @That Guy claiming that the deal won't be signed?

When did I say that? I've said that the Rafale MAY die, but I don't believe I've ever presented my opinion on this chopper deal.

Please point out where I said such a thing.

 

[SamantK]

Who to bech bhi le magar jo bhikhari khali jeb adh nanga sub ke samne bikne ke like khara hai woh khareedega kahan se

Ghonchu, itna to samajh le kis se baat kar raha hai. Imran Khan is a decent guy, responding like this at least to members who are fair doesn't suit us man.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Sirjee....these birds r for army right?

The IAF AND the IA are getting their own Apache fleets.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Mi35 have been relatively safe Helis
With 1 Combat loss in Kargil and 1 crash in 27 years of operation

Considering the amount of flight hours the IAF have put on their Mi-35s this is an outstanding safety record.

 

[Abingdonboy]

IAF broke the heart when C130 crashed. I understand they were trying something new with the plane. But one does not need to learn only from mistakes. They should have known it.
It felt like explosion of sindhugosh. Although sindhugosh was much more vital asset.

A very unfortunate incident but that is the nature of high performance low level flight (that too on an entirely new platform).

 

[Hindustani78]

Why don't army order in this month itself ?

Why are risking 40% price hike ?

This deal shows the strong relations between United States and India.

PM Modi upcoming visit to United states will be most important.

 

[Hindustani78]

Here is why Apache and Chinook helicopters are game changers for India - The Economic Times
By Manu Pubby, ET Bureau | 23 Sep, 2015, 04.00AM IST

After a three-year delay, the government has finally cleared the purchase of new attack and heavy lift helicopters from the US. The $2.5 billion deal for a new fleet of 15 Chinook and 22 Apache choppers are a huge boost for the air force & the contract is likely to be expanded to larger number in coming years. The private sector will benefit as the contract will bring in over $600 million into the defence & aerospace sector as offsets for the deal. Besides, both helicopters are game changers for India and not just on the military front. Here is why:

AH-64E APACHE, the battlefield game changer:

THE MACHINE: Described as the most lethal attack helicopter in the world, the Apache has been in service since 1984 with over 2,100 machines produced. The version that India is purchasing is the latest Block III configuration that the US first got in 2011. A total of 22 choppers are being bought for $ 1.4 billion.

ITS ROLE: The stealthy, versatile chopper is designed for all kinds of missions. Equipped with laser and infrared systems for a weather, day-night operability, the Apache fires the Hellfire missiles, besides its arsenal of 70 mm rockets and an automatic cannon.

WHAT IT MEANS FOR INDIA: The Apache will be the first pure attack helicopter in India's possession. While the Russian origin Mi 35 has been operated for years and is now on the verge of retirement, it was an assault chopper that was designed to carry troops into heavily defended territories. The two pilot Apache is a dedicated attack chopper that experts believe will be a 'game changer' in the tactical battle scenario.


THE CONTROVERSY: The Army and the Air Force have been sparring over who should operate the Apaches. While the procurement for 22 choppers was mooted by the IAF, the army has put in a strong case for inducting the machines as they are meant for close operations. The Army has now moved a proposal to purchase 39 Apaches for its aviation wing.


CH-47F CHINOOK, the road builder giant:

THE MACHINE: The iconic twin rotor chopper is a battle proven machine that has fl own countless missions into warzones from Vietnam to Afghanistan and Iraq. While the original Chinook first flew in 1962, it has undergone several upgrades and is now one of the most modern heavy lift choppers in the world.

ITS ROLE: The massive helicopter can carry 9.6 tons of cargo, including heavy machinery, artillery guns and even light armoured vehicles to high altitude. Suited for mountain operations, the Chinook is highly maneuverable and can get in and out of tight valleys. Its missions range from ferrying troops to disaster relief operations.


WHAT IT MEANS FOR INDIA: The long pending acquisition will not only augment air force's heavy lift capability for military tasks but is a vital addition for the construction of strategic roads and infrastructure projects on the border. The Border Roads Organisation has been waiting in particular for the Chinook to complete road building projects in the North East that have been stuck for years for want of a heavy lift chopper that can carry material and equipment through narrow valleys.

THE CONTROVERSY: Since being chosen as the winner in a contest with the upgraded Mi 26 chopper in October 2012, the Chinook deal has been hanging fire. Its manufacturer Boeing had to extend its commercial bid for the contract 13 times before being cleared. Any further delay would have significantly pushed up the price of the deal from $1.1 billion.

 

[wiseone2]

I am getting worried with LCH, Model to prototype was super fast, I was hoping induction should have been done by now, but it seems to be stuck ...any news on when LCH will be inducted.


Sorry for OT, Spec wise, underestimating Chinese tanks would be a grave mistake.

apache choppers are overrated. iraqi forces with air defenses turn back the apache choppers.
however the Apaches would wipe out any enemy armor operating without air cover

 

[PARIKRAMA]

Apache 1

Apache 2

Apache 3

Chinook 1

Chinook 2

(Angler Bob Gaines of Irvine , California , USA , landed a massive 111 cm Chinook salmon on while fly casting on the Smith River, California with guide Andy)

Chinook 3

(Chinook Dog - Dog Breed)

 

[Black Alloy]

 

[dadeechi]

39 Apache follow on for Army Aviation....

The end of a bitter Air Force vs Army battle could mean India finally gets modern attack helicopters | idrw.org

So shameful. Instead of fighting for the country they are fighting among themselves.

 

[Hindustani78]

India should get 'return gift': Akhilesh Yadav on Boeing deal | Zee News

Last Updated: Friday, September 25, 2015 - 19:58

Jaipur: With India clearing the USD 3.1 billion helicopter deal with aviation major Boeing ahead of the Prime Minister's US visit, Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister Akhilesh Yadav on Friday expressed hope that the country would get a "return gift" from America.

"I heard before leaving on the US trip, the Prime Minister said the chopper deal has been cleared. This is good for the nation and army that they would get new helicopters from (the) US..."

"We are very ancient people. There has been a tradition of return gift in our families and society... The PM has gone to the US... Humein badha return gift milna chahiye (we should be getting a huge return gift)," Yadav said, addressing an event of the All India Yuva Yadav Maha Sabha here.

Speaking in the presence of Union Minister of State for Defence Rao Inderjit Singh, Yadav said the deal would be good for the defence ministry.

The Cabinet Committee on Security, chaired by the Prime Minister, had on September 22 cleared the deal for 22 Apache attack helicopters and 15 Chinook heavy-lift choppers with aviation giant Boeing. Modi is currently in the US on an official visit.

Earlier talking to mediapersons, the UP Chief Minister said his government had received the Justice Vishnu Sahai Commission report on Muzaffarnagar riots and that it would be tabled in the state assembly soon.

When told that the report mentioned involvement of ruling and opposition parties in the riots, Yadav countered, "Have you (reporters) read the report? No... Aap mediawale bhi toh aag lagate ho... Breaking news us se kam nahin hai (media also ignites flames. Breaking news is nothing less than that)."

PTI