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Special forces ops inside china and pakistan.....should i start laughing or tell you to grow a bit, first check wether your balls are still in place.
someone do a proper vs comparison for these new Indian/Pakistani toys please
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Which ones from russia???new utility helicopters
Which ones from russia???
unit costs are listed as 31 million for the AH-1Z vs 65 million for the AH-64D (2010-11 prices), is it the radar alone that makes it twice as costly ?From space battle forum . Very interesting comparison indeed.
AH-64 all the way. It has
- Mast mounted Longbow radar with both air and ground search mode capability. The AH-1 has no radar whatsoever. The Apache will see it first from much further way.
- 30 mm cannon vs the Ah-1Zs 20 mm. The Apaches cannon has superior range and hitting power. The Apache is also armored in some locations against upto 23 mm hits so the AH-1Zs cannons effectiveness is even more drastically reduced.
- Can carry 4x Stinger missiles. While the Ah-1 can carry them as well the wiki makes no mention of the Ah-1Z version being equipped to do so. This is effectively an "I WIN" button for the Apache pilot.
- Not to mention the Apache can use the radar guided version of the Hellfire missile. It has known secondary ability to hit aerial targets such as slow moving aircraft and helicopters. The Commanche is stuck with the old laser guided version intended for anti tank use only.
- Overall the Apache is lot more bigger and durable. It has two engines instead of one and both are armored. The Ah-1Z has only one single engine with less armor protection.
Am sure how true these are
as expected before modi visit and price hike
GreatNEW DELHI: Ahead of Prime Minister Narendra Modi's visit to the US, the Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) today cleared a multi-billion dollar deal for 22 Apache attack helicopters and 15 Chinook heavy-lift choppers with American aviation giant Boeing.
"The deal for Apache and Chinook (helicopters) has been cleared," government sources said.
The CCS met after a Cabinet meeting, they said.
Many in the defence sector had expected the deal, valued to be over $2.5 billion and pending since 2013 following finalisation of cost negotiations, to be signed during the visit of US Defence SecretaryAshton Carter in June this year.
The deal for Apache is "a hybrid one", with one contract to be signed with Boeing for the helicopter and the other with the US government for its weapons, radars and electronic warfare suites.
The US has been pushing for this contract as it will further bolster American presence in the burgeoning defence market of India.
American companies have over the last decade bagged defence contracts from India worth around USD 10 billion, including for aircraft like P-8I maritime surveillance planes, C-130J 'Super Hercules' and C-17 Globemaster-III in the transport category.
Prime Minister Narendra Modi will leave for the US tomorrow to attend the UN General Assembly.
The helicopter deal had survived over 10 price extensions from the American side with the last one being for a month as desired by India.
The contract will have clauses to place follow-on orders for 11 more Apaches and four extra Chinooks.
Both platforms, which have been in combat in Afghanistan and Iraq, had beaten off competition from Russia, which had offered its Mi-28N Night Hunter and Mi-26 heavy-lift copters.
The 22 Apache AH 64D Longbow helicopters are one of the most advanced multi-role combat helicopters, featuring all-weather and night fighting features, ability to track upto 128 targets in less than a minute and engage with 16, besides stealth characteristics, advanced sensors and beyond visual range missiles.
India will also be acquiring Hellfire missiles and rockets.
May be. Apache is very reliable platform and very superior airframe. AH1z also good but it's quite easy to pick Apache between these twounit costs are listed as 31 million for the AH-1Z vs 65 million for the AH-64D (2010-11 prices), is it the radar alone that makes it twice as costly ?
From space battle forum . Very interesting comparison indeed.
AH-64 all the way. It has
- Mast mounted Longbow radar with both air and ground search mode capability. The AH-1 has no radar whatsoever. The Apache will see it first from much further way.
- 30 mm cannon vs the Ah-1Zs 20 mm. The Apaches cannon has superior range and hitting power. The Apache is also armored in some locations against upto 23 mm hits so the AH-1Zs cannons effectiveness is even more drastically reduced.
- Can carry 4x Stinger missiles. While the Ah-1 can carry them as well the wiki makes no mention of the Ah-1Z version being equipped to do so. This is effectively an "I WIN" button for the Apache pilot.
- Not to mention the Apache can use the radar guided version of the Hellfire missile. It has known secondary ability to hit aerial targets such as slow moving aircraft and helicopters. The Commanche is stuck with the old laser guided version intended for anti tank use only.
- Overall the Apache is lot more bigger and durable. It has two engines instead of one and both are armored. The Ah-1Z has only one single engine with less armor protection.
Am sure how true these are
AH-1Z has only one engine?
and some equally retarded gave this guy a positive rating......
LMAO.
Yes The AH-64D Apache Longbow, is equipped with a glass cockpit and advanced sensors, the most noticeable of which being the AN/APG-78 Longbow millimeter-wavefire-control radar (FCR) target acquisition system and the Radar Frequency Interferometer (RFI), housed in a dome located above the main rotor The radome's raised position enables targets detection while the helicopter is behind obstacles (e.g. terrain, trees or buildings). The AN/APG-78 is capable of simultaneously tracking up to 128 targets and engaging up to 16 at once, an attack can be initiated within 30 secondsis it the radar alone that makes it twice as costly ?