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Thank you for the thread.

One question: I just read that India opened its retail market to International retailers like Warmart etc. What do you feel about this? In China they pretty much controlled the price. Why did India make this decision?

Personally I have mixed feelings about this decision.

On the one hand, these retail organizations are likely to introduce excellent methods and practices to the country, in terms of management of outlets, of stocks, of reordering methods, and logistics to meet demand at outlets, and pricing to lower costs. We are nowhere near the state of management practised by these organizations; they are phenomenal.

On the other hand, there are flourishing Mom-and-Pop stores which will be wiped out by the big chains. Only those who offer real benefits, like remaining open longer hours, or offering speciality lines, or servicing unserviced areas (villages and towns which the big chains will not cover initially), and some things like that.

The small stores are doomed anyway; the market, the invisible hand, does not work properly due to a host of factors, so they over-charge and still manage to make only light profits, sometimes no profits. But going under due to a huge new market opening up is politically lethal. No politician likes to be on the wrong side of popular opinion on this one.

India has managed to tame foreign entrants in many aspects. The Indian customer is a very difficult one to deal with in the organized sectors, and it remains to be seen how they will interact with modern retail.

Incidentally, malls are already hugely popular everywhere. That, I think, is a sign of things to come.
 
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Serious question about Indians.

What's with Indians and lighting incense sticks in their homes?

To most people they smell good, but to me personally the smoke gives me a headache and I usually end up with a sore throat.

Surprisingly Saudis light incense sticks in their homes too.

But to say the least, it irritates me physically.

There is a possibility - just a possibility - that your personal particulars have been circulated by an intelligence agency whose name starts with R and finishes with W, and that Indians have been warned that incense smoke irritates you, so they have to keep these burning at all times.

Something like garlic and the cross affects a gentleman from Transylvania, for example.

Otherwise, we have to fall back on the possibility that your visited Indians are cheapies who use poor quality incense sticks.

No, it's India. Look at the Hindu writing on the sign.

They are playing Diwali... With Indian police smoke grenades. ;)


What is Hindu writing?
 
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Joe Sir, you are saying exact thing that is going in my mind regarding these issues.

If Indians have any doubt, ask nearby shopkeeper, he will tell you the effect of these Chains. One of the interesting point told to me was that even Domestic retailers like Easyday sell goods on discount when these products cme near expiry date, which may be not a prevalent practice.

Another point is many household buy things on credit and pay once in the month where as for such facility people has to use plastic money which hasn't penetrated in every household. This will keep things running.

Also, the product which we buy from these big retailers are generally at MRP and shopkeepers can reduce the price, cutting their profit a little but keeping the customers. "Maximum" retail price will be an important factor in it. Most of Indian households are loyal customer of these shopkeepers as they can return back the product if they found later that the quality is not good etc. Its a sort of family relation that develops especially in various colonies in cities and towns where retailers won't have that much profit to establish one branch.
 
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What is Hindu writing?

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^^ Its Devnagri.....(I have little doubt :D)
 
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well ofcourse you can't have 2 gods and 2 religions don't you think? its naive and dumb to believe that two different gods and religions can exist and not argue and fight each other. don't you believe?


This is one of the reasons why there is so much misunderstanding about each other's points of view.

I speak as a neutral, as an agnostic.

While Islam does not accept any alternative religion other than religions of the book, some branches of Hinduism actively accepts alternatives. please don't quote examples of religious intolerance from politically motivated organizations like the BJP and its supporters, typically other organizations of the Sangh Parivar. They have a very strange view of what Hinduism should be, and keep trying to get there. On the other hand, people like Vivekananda's mentor, Ramakrishna, said in so many words that God by different names remained God, and it didn't matter how God was worshipped.
 
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This is one of the reasons why there is so much misunderstanding about each other's points of view.

I speak as a neutral, as an agnostic.

While Islam does not accept any alternative religion other than religions of the book, some branches of Hinduism actively accepts alternatives. please don't quote examples of religious intolerance from politically motivated organizations like the BJP and its supporters, typically other organizations of the Sangh Parivar. They have a very strange view of what Hinduism should be, and keep trying to get there. On the other hand, people like Vivekananda's mentor, Ramakrishna, said in so many words that God by different names remained God, and it didn't matter how God was worshipped.

So it means Hinduism is not a real religion, if it doesnt emphasize on what it teaches...
 
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Akbar is respected because he was a great King both militarily & administratively and it didn't hurt that he was the most tolerant of the Mughals.

Same ticketing rights....what part of that don't you understand?

Neither Qutubuddin Aibak or Iltutmish (who completed it) were mughals & yeah the same ticketing rights story interests us.


....because it's part of our history. You won't understand. In Karnataka, people go visit the magnificent ruins of Hampi & then go on & see the Gol Gumbuz in Bijapur & think nothing much of it even if the Sultanate had been responsible for the destruction of Hampi. We try (don't always succeed) to not be prisoners of history, you see it helps to have those ticketing rights over both:).



Stockholm syndrome??:lol::lol: Nobody loves anyone here, there is respect for Akbar but that's it. They are now our history just like the British built structures are our history too. You don't worry your poor head about us, we will do fine. Save all the worry for all the hate that you have to have to not understand that we see history, not in black & white but in the grey that it usually is.[/QUOTE]



i like how you tip toe and show how utopian society india is and yet your friends here complain of how evil and Draconian the moghuls were. clearly the hate towards the moghuls that you try to hide is not so well hidden in your friends here. who clearly try to show how the british were actual saviours of their culture from the moghuls.

last part oh well that clearly is the best defence of indians when they know they have nothing to aruge with by turning their guns onto us and how "cruel,evil & draconian" pakistanis are.

the bottom line is to pakistanis moghuls were great and were the golden era of this area while the british invaders destroyed our culture and changed the history books and put the hindus in power when LEAVING! and since then the hindus want to forget everything in between and just remember 47 and before that ashoka, with a few bed time stories of some rajputs that stood upto moghuls instead of uniting with them.

Makes very strange reading.

The last Mughal emperor to exercise full power was Aurangzeb. By the end of his reign in 1707, the Empire was under siege- not by the British, or the French or the Portuguese, or Dutch or Danes, or any Europeans, not even by central Asians, although both Nadir Shah and Ahmed Shah Abdali were in the future, but by the Marathas. By the time another fifty years had elapsed, by 1757, the British had seized power in a corner of India, but the Marathas had taken over vast swathes of northern India, and were creating the conditions in the Punjab that allowed the Sikhs to take power a few decades later. In the south, the independent kingdom of Mysore had begun to expand, thanks to its military commander, Hyder Ali, and that commander's son, who declared himself Sultan, and struck coins. This was in the middle of the eighteenth century.

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By the end of the eighteenth century, between them, the Marathas, the Sikhs and the Empire's own provincial rulers, the Nawabs of Oudh and the Nizam of Hyderabad, there were only tatters of the Empire left.

Dilli se Palam
Badshahi Shah Alam.

When the British won India, they wont through the First, Second, Third and Fourth Anglo-Mysore Wars; the First, Second and Third Anglo-Maratha Wars; and the First and Second Anglo-Sikh Wars. Among others, they had also to fight off the Nawabs of the provinces of Bengal and Oudh and defeat the Nizam by proxy.

Not much is heard about the Anglo-Mughal Wars; they never happened. By then, the Mughal Empire was dead, just an emperor propped up in his throne in the city of Delhi, and enthroned and dethroned at will, depending on who the local hoodlum was. Sometimes this was a faction like the
Sayyids of the UP, sometimes the Jats, sometimes the Marathas, and of course, the Persians and the Afghans had a lot to say for a brief period.

It is too much to hope that all members would be familiar with the history of south Asia, but I wish some of those writing in with their views would at least read an History of India for Dummies, if nothing else. It may not matter much to others, but to those who have had some exposure to history, some of the views expressed here are painful to read, irrespective of which country the person concerned comes from.
 
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And how did you manage to deduce that from his post?:lol:

When Hinduism allows atheists, monotheists, and the whole lot, you can tell it doesn't emphasize on it's teachings... Its like saying you're a vegan when the only thing you eat is meat
 
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When Hinduism allows atheists, monotheists, and the whole lot, you can tell it doesn't emphasize on it's teachings... Its like saying you're a vegan when the only thing you eat is meat

Yes our religion gives us freedom. There is no punishment for apostates unlike some other religions. We are not insecure.

According to Hinduism there is more than one way to God, and Hindus are free to pursue that however they want.
 
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