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they haven't brought their democracy and freedom here yet

Bhai, half of the guys I mentioned were British Pakistanis who carried out bombings in 7/7. And I don't recall Saudi Arabia being bombed by anyone that made Bin Laden a terrorist, nor did he lose family to others like I have. Nor was his house attacked like ours was.
 
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Please don't presume to teach me Arabic, my family has been learning/speaking the language since before your folk climbed out of the hills.

As for free speech, free speech does not mean supporting terrorists who kill citizens in the country you choose to live in. You are enjoying the benefits of a democracy, by having the right of free speech. But yet you say that a democracy is incompatible with your fantasies. But you choose to live here still, that makes you a munafiq.

A Munafiq is someone who claims to be Muslim, but is secretly unsympathetic to the Muslims.

I didn't choose to live here genius, and I don't support terrorism. I just don't mourn over Rigby's death. My choice, simple as.
 
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Bhai, half of the guys I mentioned were British Pakistanis who carried out bombings in 7/7. And I don't recall Saudi Arabia being bombed by anyone that made Bin Laden a terrorist, nor did he lose family to others like I have. Nor was his house attacked like ours was.
Those who carried out the British 7/7 bombings were pure idiots.

The bombings were totally against Islam.
 
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But still you live
gb.GIF

WHy live in Kufar lands of the filth and fitna :azn:

He's living here till he makes enough money, he was also educated here. So like your typical terrorist supporting scumbag, he takes all the benefits of the western liberal society but doesn't want the same for his countrymen. Like I said, munafiq.

A Munafiq is someone who claims to be Muslim, but is secretly unsympathetic to the Muslims.

I didn't choose to live here genius, and I don't support terrorism. I just don't mourn over Rigby's death. My choice, simple as.

So have the British chained you to the hills of Dover? Or are they holding your family hostage that it is preventing you from leaving now? Accept it man, you are Grade A hypocrite. You are taking as much advantage as possible yet talking crap about it. If that's not hypocrisy then what is? Also, Munafiq an Arabic/Urdu word, that is not always used in a religious context.
 
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He's living here till he makes enough money, he was also educated here. So like your typical terrorist supporting scumbag, he takes all the benefits of the western liberal society but doesn't want the same for his countrymen. Like I said, munafiq.



So have the British chained you to the hills of Dover? Or are they holding your family hostage that it is preventing you from leaving now? Accept it man, you are Grade A hypocrite. You are taking as much advantage as possible yet talking crap about it. If that's not hypocrisy then what is? Also, Munafiq an Arabic/Urdu word, that is not always used in a religious context.

I'm not working yet genius, still in education and my parents dragged me here to get it.

My countrymen are my fellow Muslims, everyone else comes second. Sorry, but that's my sense of priorities.

Munafiq is typically used in a religious context. Nifaq would be the actual term for hypocrisy itself.
 
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I'm not working yet genius, still in education and my parents dragged me here to get it.

My countrymen are my fellow Muslims, everyone else comes second. Sorry, but that's my sense of priorities.

Munafiq is typically used in a religious context. Nifaq would be the actual term for hypocrisy itself.

Acha bhai, jis din ye mulk choroh ge to mithai bhej dena.
 
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He's living here till he makes enough money, he was also educated here. So like your typical terrorist supporting scumbag, he takes all the benefits of the western liberal society but doesn't want the same for his countrymen. Like I said, munafiq.



So have the British chained you to the hills of Dover? Or are they holding your family hostage that it is preventing you from leaving now? Accept it man, you are Grade A hypocrite. You are taking as much advantage as possible yet talking crap about it. If that's not hypocrisy then what is? Also, Munafiq an Arabic/Urdu word, that is not always used in a religious context.
In momino sey to mein certified jahanumi acha :D
 
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I'm sorry but I have to agree with Abdur Raheem Green. Pakistan is a far cry from Islam.

We won't be a good Muslim country until the shrines are gone, we rule by Sharia, music and dancing are banned, and we stop the honour killings.



Swearing is haram and having a beard is compulsory in Islam, so you're not helping your case at all.
Is music and dance really prohibited in Islam or is it open to interpretation?
I think music and singing being central to Hindu customs/worships was adopted by Islamists to make Islam more familiar to Hindu converts. Grave worship or rather respecting graves was a cultural thing. Islamists blended in to spread their religion. 300-400 years later guys like you are accusing those Islamist preachers to be shirk just coz they adopted to local culture of music? Hindus gathered in temples and sang aartis and bhajans, they still do. Sufis continued this is dargahs etc.
 
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Is music and dance really prohibited in Islam or is it open to interpretation?
I think music and singing being central to Hindu customs/worships was adopted by Islamists to make Islam more familiar to Hindu converts. Grave worship or rather respecting graves was a cultural thing. Islamists blended in to spread their religion. 300-400 years later guys like you are accusing those Islamist preachers to be shirk just coz they adopted to local culture of music? Hindus gathered in temples and sang aartis and bhajans, they still do. Sufis continued this is dargahs etc.

Music is almost unanimously considered haram. Only recently have people started saying otherwise, with rather flimsy evidence.

Dancing is fine so long as it isn't sexual or in front of the opposite gender (unless they're your wife or family).

Grave worship is shirk, and explicitly forbidden. It's a nullifier of one's belief in Islam. This isn't a minor thing, doing this makes you a non Muslim.

The fact that Hindus did it as a ritual means we should avoid it even more, Islam doesn't assimilate, it rather makes others assimilate to its own standards.

Sufism didn't blend in with Hindusim btw, Sufism was just more appealing to people in the region as it allowed music and dance and shrines and what not, where as traditional Islam didn't.
 
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Music is almost unanimously considered haram. Only recently have people started saying otherwise, with rather flimsy evidence.

Dancing is fine so long as it isn't sexual or in front of the opposite gender (unless they're your wife or family).

Grave worship is shirk, and explicitly forbidden. It's a nullifier of one's belief in Islam. This isn't a minor thing, doing this makes you a non Muslim.

The fact that Hindus did it as a ritual means we should avoid it even more, Islam doesn't assimilate, it rather makes others assimilate to its own standards.

Sufism didn't blend in with Hindusim btw, Sufism was just more appealing to people in the region as it allowed music and dance and shrines and what not, where as traditional Islam didn't.
Islam needs to adapt to changes. You cannot survive by banning simple pleasures like music and dance. Then there are Saudis not allowing women to drive or triple talaq, 4 wives...all this is regressive. Islamists need to find the core of religion and stick to it. I doubt Muslim nation's will ban music even if Allah/quran says it is evil..stick to core values and adapt.
 
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Islam needs to adapt to changes. You cannot survive by banning simple pleasures like music and dance. Then there are Saudis not allowing women to drive or triple talaq, 4 wives...all this is regressive. Islamists need to find the core of religion and stick to it. I doubt Muslim nation's will ban music even if Allah/quran says it is evil..stick to core values and adapt.
Islam does not need to change. Islam is perfect.
 
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Why the paranoia.

This guy is just expressing his opinion.

If he is just explained the two nation theory in a calm manner he will be in Pakistan on political asylum.

Stop treating everyone like some holy figures just because they are on the tele.
 
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Why the paranoia.

This guy is just expressing his opinion.

If he is just explained the two nation theory in a calm manner he will be in Pakistan on political asylum.

Stop treating everyone like some holy figures just because they are on the tele.
lol he can just go back to USA or UK.

LOL :lol:

He criticizes Pakistan, but not USA or UK. lol
 
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