Another Chinese 4TH Gen fighter been leaked``!!

[aimarraul]

 

[Akasa]

SAC academician litian and SAC JXX metal model.the pic of SAC JXX metal model was from PUPU

thx hk299792458 and aimarraul

If this is true, then it would be substantially smaller than the J-20, judging from the size of its cockpit.

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The top photo is a model of the Mitsubishi ATD-X.

 

[aimarraul]

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创新引擎推动战机设计
——沈阳飞机设计研究所创建50周年纪实报道之七

　中国航空报 2011年7月16日 星期六





2010年1月11日，国家科技奖励大会在北京举行，中航工业沈阳所自主创新研制的某型飞机获“国家科技进步特等奖”，这已是沈阳所第4次捧得全国科技界最高奖！半世纪不懈追求、50载跨越发展，沈阳所坚持科技引领创新、能力保障创新、手段助推创新，托起了战鹰腾飞的翅膀。

从跟踪创新到自主创新——

战机设计科技引领

创新，是战机研制的始终灵魂，是飞机设计的永恒主题。50年来，沈阳所走过了一条从仿制到引进、消化吸收再创新，再到完全自主创新的道路。

“十一五”期间，沈阳所完成预研项目50多个，突破新机研制关键技术百余项，申报专利97项，其中发明61项，年平均增长率达82.7%，还掌握了新一代机总体、气动、隐身、结构的综合设计技术，气动布局设计和试验技术达到国际先进水平；创建了拥有自主知识产权的三代机材料、标准件体系，带动我国材料和冶金等基础产业的跨越和发展，摆脱了对外依赖；突破了全系统综合集成设计、多功能多模态火力/飞行/推进综合控制等多项重大关键技术；实现了飞机保障系统与飞机的“一体化”设计，由定时维修转变为视情维修，使国内飞机训练保障技术跨越式提升。

面向“十二五”，沈阳所积极融入“攻防兼备”和“近海打赢、中海防卫、远洋威慑”的空、海军战略思想，加大自主创新力度，实现由任务型向任务能力型转变；提升自主创新水平，完成先进有人/无人作战飞机研制，具备新一代战斗机的研发与试制能力。

创新的激情，源自于科学的政策、完善的制度、浓厚的氛围。为鼓励创新，沈阳所颁布实施了《预先研究管理规定》、《科技创新基金管理规定》、《科技创新大会决定》和《科技创新奖实施细则》；开展了飞行器设计大赛、科技创新大会、创新先锋评比、创新理念征集等系列活动，营造出鼓励创新、宽容失败的文化氛围。

从旧库房到重点试验室——

战机设计能力先行

工欲善其事，必先利其器。能力建设是开展型号设计和试验研究的必要手段和先决条件。研保条件建设为沈阳所劲舞苍穹，插上了傲视天宇的鲲鹏之翅。

50年前，一座三层的办公楼、五座两层小楼、25栋兵器库平房，沈阳所人在这样的环境里开始了铺摊子、搭架子的起步建设工作。经过半个世纪的艰苦努力，以国家级重点试验室、航空科技重点实验室为代表的25座布局合理、结构优化、核心能力突出的专业试验室，更使研究所的整体设计、仿真、试验、验证能力研发能力迈上新的历史高度。试验室采用全新的设计理念，并先后建成了大吨位、可实现横滚、俯仰以及倒飞全模拟的综合性多自由度燃油系统试验台；以火力/飞行/推进综合为核心理念的飞机控制工程综合试验室，使沈阳所同时开展多种型号设计、仿真、试验、测试的综合能力得到了极大的提升；试验室具有不可燃吸波材料、屏蔽大门、屏蔽模块等先进技术，填补国内空白的大型全机电磁环境效应试验室，为全行业的飞机系统电磁兼容性研究和电磁兼容性测试提供服务。

面向未来发展，沈阳所提出了“从传统的设计流程向基于数字化工程为基点的全新设计流程转变，从传统的工程设计验证体系向基于仿真的设计评估体系转变”的理念，致力于实现战斗机研制的“华丽变身”！

从手描纸绘到无纸设计——

战机设计手段变革

铅笔、尺子、计算尺……随着泛黄的日历，飞机外形设计笔描手绘的时代，已经成为沈阳所老一辈设计员的回忆。

100%三维数字化定义、500人同时设计和自主研发的国内最大的三维标注设计环境，震惊了参与国外联合设计归来的工程师。

现今，配置各类计算机设备2000多台的千兆所区网，形成了以计算机辅助设计、工程分析、型号管理为主的应用系统，开通的厂、所之间千兆光纤，成为支撑联合研制、并行设计与制造的“高速通道”。

沈阳所建立了以数字样机设计为基础、以产品数据管理为核心、以飞机研制过程为主线的我国飞机行业最大的数字化协同设计平台和数字化装配仿真中心，实现了新机研制和改进改型设计100%三维数字化建模，达到了设计、制造一体化，不仅简化了协调环节、提高了制造精度，更是打通了数字化设计和制造的道路。

今天的沈阳所，意气风发，朝气蓬勃，站在中国航空工业发展的最前沿，以跨越式发展的姿态，托起战鹰的腾飞，迎接时代的风云、民族振兴的曙光。

（任子&#23143

 

[rcrmj]

?????


创新引擎推动战机设计
——沈阳飞机设计研究所创建50周年纪实报道之七

　中国航空报 2011年7月16日 星期六





2010年1月11日，国家科技奖励大会在北京举行，中航工业沈阳所自主创新研制的某型飞机获“国家科技进步特等奖”，这已是沈阳所第4次捧得全国科技界最高奖！半世纪不懈追求、50载跨越发展，沈阳所坚持科技引领创新、能力保障创新、手段助推创新，托起了战鹰腾飞的翅膀。

从跟踪创新到自主创新——

战机设计科技引领

创新，是战机研制的始终灵魂，是飞机设计的永恒主题。50年来，沈阳所走过了一条从仿制到引进、消化吸收再创新，再到完全自主创新的道路。

“十一五”期间，沈阳所完成预研项目50多个，突破新机研制关键技术百余项，申报专利97项，其中发明61项，年平均增长率达82.7%，还掌握了新一代机总体、气动、隐身、结构的综合设计技术，气动布局设计和试验技术达到国际先进水平；创建了拥有自主知识产权的三代机材料、标准件体系，带动我国材料和冶金等基础产业的跨越和发展，摆脱了对外依赖；突破了全系统综合集成设计、多功能多模态火力/飞行/推进综合控制等多项重大关键技术；实现了飞机保障系统与飞机的“一体化”设计，由定时维修转变为视情维修，使国内飞机训练保障技术跨越式提升。

面向“十二五”，沈阳所积极融入“攻防兼备”和“近海打赢、中海防卫、远洋威慑”的空、海军战略思想，加大自主创新力度，实现由任务型向任务能力型转变；提升自主创新水平，完成先进有人/无人作战飞机研制，具备新一代战斗机的研发与试制能力。

创新的激情，源自于科学的政策、完善的制度、浓厚的氛围。为鼓励创新，沈阳所颁布实施了《预先研究管理规定》、《科技创新基金管理规定》、《科技创新大会决定》和《科技创新奖实施细则》；开展了飞行器设计大赛、科技创新大会、创新先锋评比、创新理念征集等系列活动，营造出鼓励创新、宽容失败的文化氛围。

从旧库房到重点试验室——

战机设计能力先行

工欲善其事，必先利其器。能力建设是开展型号设计和试验研究的必要手段和先决条件。研保条件建设为沈阳所劲舞苍穹，插上了傲视天宇的鲲鹏之翅。

50年前，一座三层的办公楼、五座两层小楼、25栋兵器库平房，沈阳所人在这样的环境里开始了铺摊子、搭架子的起步建设工作。经过半个世纪的艰苦努力，以国家级重点试验室、航空科技重点实验室为代表的25座布局合理、结构优化、核心能力突出的专业试验室，更使研究所的整体设计、仿真、试验、验证能力研发能力迈上新的历史高度。试验室采用全新的设计理念，并先后建成了大吨位、可实现横滚、俯仰以及倒飞全模拟的综合性多自由度燃油系统试验台；以火力/飞行/推进综合为核心理念的飞机控制工程综合试验室，使沈阳所同时开展多种型号设计、仿真、试验、测试的综合能力得到了极大的提升；试验室具有不可燃吸波材料、屏蔽大门、屏蔽模块等先进技术，填补国内空白的大型全机电磁环境效应试验室，为全行业的飞机系统电磁兼容性研究和电磁兼容性测试提供服务。

面向未来发展，沈阳所提出了“从传统的设计流程向基于数字化工程为基点的全新设计流程转变，从传统的工程设计验证体系向基于仿真的设计评估体系转变”的理念，致力于实现战斗机研制的“华丽变身”！

从手描纸绘到无纸设计——

战机设计手段变革

铅笔、尺子、计算尺……随着泛黄的日历，飞机外形设计笔描手绘的时代，已经成为沈阳所老一辈设计员的回忆。

100%三维数字化定义、500人同时设计和自主研发的国内最大的三维标注设计环境，震惊了参与国外联合设计归来的工程师。

现今，配置各类计算机设备2000多台的千兆所区网，形成了以计算机辅助设计、工程分析、型号管理为主的应用系统，开通的厂、所之间千兆光纤，成为支撑联合研制、并行设计与制造的“高速通道”。

沈阳所建立了以数字样机设计为基础、以产品数据管理为核心、以飞机研制过程为主线的我国飞机行业最大的数字化协同设计平台和数字化装配仿真中心，实现了新机研制和改进改型设计100%三维数字化建模，达到了设计、制造一体化，不仅简化了协调环节、提高了制造精度，更是打通了数字化设计和制造的道路。

今天的沈阳所，意气风发，朝气蓬勃，站在中国航空工业发展的最前沿，以跨越式发展的姿态，托起战鹰的腾飞，迎接时代的风云、民族振兴的曙光。

（任子&#23143

better find someone to translate this to share with other members

 

[houshanghai]

601-SAC pictures by My-Military-Photos - Photobucket

 

[houshanghai]

SACJXX VS T50

the pic from peishen(a trustworthy boss in cdf)

 

[Sanchez]

J-20 is a high value interceptor or door opening striker
SAC's J1X will serve as a multi-role 4G fighter bomber
CAC and SAC would bring another competition for a carrier based 4G naval fighter...
And PAF's single engine J-20 Jr...

It's difficult for China, or anybody else, to incorporate all the mission functions into one 4G fighter...

 

[rcrmj]

J-20 is a high value interceptor or door opening striker
SAC's J1X will serve as a multi-role 4G fighter bomber
CAC and SAC would bring another competition for a carrier based 4G naval fighter...
And PAF's single engine J-20 Jr...

It's difficult for China, or anybody else, to incorporate all the mission functions into one 4G fighter...

the single engine J-10 for navy was already phased out``SAC is going win that

 

[sur]

better find someone to translate this to share with other members

promote innovation engine fighter design
- Shenyang Aircraft Design Institute 50th anniversary report of seven documentary 　China Aviation News July 16, 2011 Saturday, January 11, 2010, National Science and Technology Awards Conference held in Beijing, Shenyang, China Aviation Industry innovation developed by an aircraft of the "national scientific and technological progress", this is the fourth time in Shenyang National Technology clinch the top prize! Relentless pursuit of half a century, after 50 across the development, Shenyang insists to lead innovation in science and technology, the ability to protect innovation, means boosting innovation, and hold up their fighters to take off. From tracking innovation to innovation - leading aircraft design technology innovation is always the soul of the fighters, the eternal theme of the aircraft design. 50 years, Shenyang traversed a path from imitation to the introduction, absorption and innovation, to complete the road of independent innovation. "Eleventh Five-Year" period, Shenyang completed more than 50 pre-research project, key technical breakthroughs in the development of new aircraft over a hundred items, patented, 97, of which 61 inventions, the average annual growth rate of 82.7%, also got a new generation Overall machine, pneumatic, stealth, integrated design structure , aerodynamic design and test technology reached the international advanced level; created three generations of machines with independent intellectual property rights of materials, standard parts system, driven by China and other basic materials and metallurgical industries and across development, out of external dependence; breakthrough integrated system-wide integration of design, multi-functional multi-modal fire / flight / propulsion integrated control and many other key technologies; to achieve the aircraft and aircraft support systems "integrated" design, by the time maintenance into maintenance, as appropriate, to protect the domestic aircraft technical training, improved by leaps and bounds. For "five", actively participate in Shenyang, the "offensive and defensive" and "offshore win, in the sea defense, offshore deterrence," the air, naval strategic thinking, increase their own innovation to achieve mission capability to the task-based change; enhance independent innovation, to complete advanced people / unmanned combat aircraft development, with a new generation of fighter R & D and trial production capability . Passion for innovation, derived from the scientific policy, sound system, a strong atmosphere. To encourage innovation, and Shenyang are promulgated and implemented the "pre-study regulations," "Technology Innovation Fund" and the "scientific and technological innovation of the General Assembly decided" and "Technology Innovation Award Regulations"; launched aircraft design competition, technological Innovation Conference, Innovation Pioneer appraisal, innovative ideas, collection and other activities, creating encourage innovation, a culture of tolerance of failure. Focus from the old warehouse to the laboratory - first fighter design capacity we must first sharpen his tools. Capacity building is the design and test models to carry out the necessary research tools and prerequisites. Study security conditions for the construction of the Shenyang Dance sky, plug the envy of the Sky Kunpeng of wings. 50 years ago, a three-story office building, five two-story, 25 arsenal cottage, Shenyang are in such an environment began setting up shops, put on airs starting construction work. After half a century of hard work to national key laboratory, Key Laboratory of Aviation Technology, represented by 25 rational layout, structural optimization, highlight the core competencies of professional laboratory, but also the Institute's overall design, simulation, testing to verify the ability of R & D capabilities to a new historical height. Laboratory with a new design concept, and has built a large tonnage, enabling roll, pitch and inverted all-analog integrated multi-degree of freedom fuel system test bed; to fire / flight / propulsion integrated as the core concept of the aircraft Integrated Control Engineering Laboratory, Shenyang Institute to carry out a variety of models at the same time design, simulation, testing, integrated testing has been greatly improved; the laboratory with non-combustible absorbent material, shielded door, shielded modules and other advanced technologies to fill the gaps in the electromagnetic environment effects of large-scale full-machine laboratory system for the aircraft industry-wide study of electromagnetic compatibility and electromagnetic compatibility testing services. The future development of Shenyang made ​​a "from the traditional design process based on digital projects anchored to the new design process shift from the traditional engineering design verification system to a simulation-based design evaluation system change" concept, commitment to fighter development of the "magnificent transfiguration"! From hand-painted paper to paperless scan design - changes in aircraft design means pencils, rulers, slide rules ... With yellowed calendar, aircraft shape design pen describe the era of hand-painted, Shenyang has become the memories of the older generation of designers . 100% of three-dimensional digital definition, 500 people design and development of the nation's largest independent label design three-dimensional environment, shocked the foreign participation in joint design engineers returned. Today, the configuration of more than 2,000 sets of various types of computer equipment by the District of gigabit network, and formed a computer-aided design, engineering analysis, model-based application management system, the opening of the plant, the Gigabit fiber between, as the joint development of support , concurrent design and manufacturing of "high-speed channel." Shenyang, the establishment of a digital prototype design based on product data management as its core aircraft development process of the main line of China's aircraft industry's largest digital co-design platform and digital assembly simulation center to achieve a new machine development and modifications to improve design 100% of three-dimensional digital model, to the design, manufacturing integration, not only simplifies the coordination aspects, to improve manufacturing precision, but also open up the digital design and manufacturing of the road. By today's Shenyang, spirited, energetic, standing the development of China's aviation industry at the forefront in order to leap-forward development of the gesture, hold up their fighters to take off, the times to meet the situation, the dawn of national rejuvenation. (Any sub-Jing)

 

[rcrmj]

lol```that doesnt make any sense at all``google translator cant translate english to Chinese``vice versa````they are just too different languages

 

[Akasa]

SACJXX VS T50

the pic from peishen(a trustworthy boss in cdf)

Anybody know what the J-16 looks like?

 

[Akasa]

J-20 is a high value interceptor or door opening striker
SAC's J1X will serve as a multi-role 4G fighter bomber
CAC and SAC would bring another competition for a carrier based 4G naval fighter...
And PAF's single engine J-20 Jr...

It's difficult for China, or anybody else, to incorporate all the mission functions into one 4G fighter...

The naval fighter is believed to be named the J-18, which will be a stealthy variant of the J-15. It seems like that the J-15 will be the basis of future naval fighters.

Russia is adopting its own T-50K.

 

[houshanghai]

J-20 is a high value interceptor or door opening striker
SAC's J1X will serve as a multi-role 4G fighter bomber
CAC and SAC would bring another competition for a carrier based 4G naval fighter...
And PAF's single engine J-20 Jr...

It's difficult for China, or anybody else, to incorporate all the mission functions into one 4G fighter...

SAC was always the biggest design centre of fighter in china.Although it was outclassed by CAC in recent years.but SAC is still a fighter design centre of having the real strength in AVIC.if SAC not to do a 5 gen fighter for their future . Thousands of SAC workers will be out of employment.Nation definitely would not be able to support that many unemployed from SAC.

Although everybody say that SAC J1X is only a self-raised funds project.but i believe that nation still invested the project at last.

 

[rcrmj]

SAC showed its J-xx models at Beijing Air Expo, rumor said it will take its maiden flight soon, next month most likely

 

[S10]

The naval fighter is believed to be named the J-18, which will be a stealthy variant of the J-15. It seems like that the J-15 will be the basis of future naval fighters.

Russia is adopting its own T-50K.

Wrong. Naval fighter project will either by based off J-20 or SAC's J-1X design, and not remotely related to J-15 line.