Angry Christian protesters smacks shoes on a poster of Imran Khan

[Patriots]

No offence to you man, but we see both groups as same and both are threat to India. So we can agree to disagree on that. Moreover the point was to show how he skirted around the question by saying "I LIVE IN PAKISTAN and "IT'S NO TIME TO BE A HERO". Being a young and more dynamic leader more was expected from him than that.

But we don't see to both as same ... Because JuD didn't damage to Pakistan by all means but TTP does ... JuD is a welfare organization not militant ..........

 

[ranjeet]

But we don't see to both as same ... Because JuD didn't damage to Pakistan by all means but TTP does ... JuD is a welfare organization not militant ..........

what I wanted to highlight was he is still afraid to call TTP terrorists, the video was an analogy. Our perception about JuD is similar to your's for TTP. Whether they both same or not that's irrelevant.

 

[That Guy]

What was typical in my post? And what homework our army has done so far? We are into this war for 9 freaking years now, and what we have achieved so far? If our mighty army is not able to root out a few thousand cockroaches in 9 years then what should I call it? And PTI don't want to halt military operations for peace talks, go through IK's recent statements to update yourself sir. Yes IK wants ceasefire but on both sides so don't pretend like we are only pushing army, IK just want a fair shot at peace talks and see if something can come out of it.

I don't like criticizing Pak Army and I never did that before. But army is not some holy cow. We are into this war since 9 years now and after 9 years, our army isn't even able to protect its own key officers. TTP is more powerful and is present in more areas as compared to where it was 9 years ago. This war has brought nothing to us except destruction and we just want to continue with this war. We have fought for 9 years and we are ready to fight for 9 more years but we are not ready to pause for a few days and let some politicians try and push TTP to peace talks.

This is a typical response from a PTI supporter.

Insurgencies take decades to get rid of, don't be naive enough to believe that this can be done within a few years.

Imran has been calling for the immediate pullout of all military personal from the tribal areas, that was his election promise. He's only been recently changing his tone because he's in charge of KPK now and realizing that his previous views were naive.

TTP is actually quite weak now. They may be more spread out, but being more spread out doesn't mean anything in the long term, if they're losing support and on the run. They've lost a lot of support within the last few years, so your entire argument is baseless.

War in general brings nothing but destruction, but when a war starts, you must see it to it's conclusion. You cannot one day decide that enough is enough, the world doesn't work like that.

We have given the TTP plenty of times to come to the table, the government AND the military have said that they would agree to a ceasefire, but guess who either keeps refusing, or completely breaks their promise? The TTP.

AGAIN, the ball is in the insurgency's court, not the government's and certainly not the military's.

 

[pkuser2k12]

Now PTIans are saying that he has become tout of Army & ISI

same program​

Aadmi ko aadmi ki moat hi marni chahye , choohe ki moat nahi marni chahiye(to Nawaz Sharif) . Haroon Rasheed​

same stomach ache do operation and they dont need hajmola​

 

[jaibi]

You have to realise that people, the mass, the mob, the public, digest information in very simplistic terms. The community sees IK and PTI as the proponants of peace with the murderers and I fail to realise how that will work. Knock on the door by the army man, politely ask the man with the gun, are you working for a friendly terrorist organisation or a foe terrorist organisation and he says: oh no, no, no, captain, I only kill hazara shias I have no problem with any sunnis and I will not bomb any city, I signed the papers. See? Then the captain and his platoon leaves to search for a terrorist that has not assigned the peace accord.

I mean seriously, if a blast had happened in Lahore on a church the people would be blaming PML-N because they have the governement here. So it is understandable. Even I'm not with IK on this one.

 

[Yeti]

He was there right after this attack, right in between the victims. There is a press release on this from PTI and a statement from IK also. You need to keep yourself updated on this if you are interested. Crawl through different threads here, everything's been shared and discussed here recently..

Okay I was not aware he did make a statement but I thought he was the chief honcho in this state is it not his job to ensure security for the people considering FATA is under his party's rule

 

[tarrar]

military action is going on for 8 years

why they did not succeed up till now

army cleared swat from cobller swat ttp commander Molvi Fazalullah but he martyred our Major general while sitting in Afghansiatan

and now army is saying they will not go from swat so what they achieved as they don't want to handover gradually swat to local administration with para military and ground intelligence

if clearing an area means army still will be sitting there after 4 years so whats the point of operation

and what can army do if they clear out tribal area as they have now but still Fazalullah has conducted this massive massive blow to army will they do a missile strike or "request" karzai and nato to "please" stop drones and handover Fazalullah,bla,bra and jundullah to Pakistan which the people in Afghanistan support

What you need to see who were ruling Pakistan for 5 years (PPP) & now who is ruling (PML-N) plus let’s not forget dajjal CJ, spineless & corrupt NGO's & to back them all the corrupt, incompetent & spineless media, they are the biggest obstacle in the way of peace & they are stopping peace from entering Pakistan by saying & doing wrong (scripted).

Gen. Musharraf’s rule was good there was nothing wrong, all the provinces were developing, Pakistan was called “Next 3” after China & India, why? Because he showed ZERO tolerance towards these rented terrorists, he gave them chance & he gave peace a chance but then what did rented TTP do & then later what Gen. Musharraf did with them, he made them run out of Pakistan then PPP came & today PML-N is power & you can see what they did & are doing with Pakistan.

 

[tarrar]

survival of the country is in democracy. we will only be respected in the international community if we have a political system in place. where generals fail, diplomacy fails, politicians can save the day. hate them as much as you want, your choice, but survival of the country is with democracy. even the military establishment has learned this..

How DEMOCRAZY is the solution for Pakistan, please explain.

What has DEMOCRAZY brought in Pakistan? Blackwater, CIA, unlimited drone strikes, local assets working for foreign powers, R & AW, political terrorists, growth in terrorism, destruction of our education system , destruction of PIA & rail ways, anti Pakistan lobbies working against Pakistan from building dams & stopping Pakistan from exploring new gas, oil, coal & mineral resources & only GOD knows how much more.

We Pakistanis were respected outside Pakistan in the time of Gen. Musharraf rule & now look at the situation today. Pakistan was booming in his time because he only shaked hands with those who were true friends of Pakistan., he finished Pakistan loans & Pakistan was in a position of giving loans to other countries, we did give money to Afghanistan Govt. don’t forget that.

So who did good for Pakistan. Don’t be a blind & deaf supporter, Pakistan has always suffered because of this use your brain & think about it.

 

[Leader]

Kiya koi khas khabar hai tumhary paas MQM or PMLN ki yar door kharay aisay hi zuban nikali hui hi

lalay your governor returned yesterday, yet again

 

[Spring Onion]

Yes, but considering the training and equipment our police has, it will be a shooting practice for these terrorists. Don't you know how they have targeted police in past several times? Our police is easy target for them. Besides, our police just didn't put up any fight in recent DI Khan jail attack, this is the level of our police.

That is the exact point where Civilian Govt and Administration come into the picture of responsibility.

I remember a meeting where KPK Governor Ghani had to request and ensured that weapons were provided by Army from its own quota to Police in Swat.

The provincial govt was NOT willing to do so.

 

[Patriots]

lalay your governor returned yesterday, yet again

Iss se better governor nahi mil sakta na Sindh ko