Ancient Pakistan - Kharosthi Script

[Mian Babban]

Kharosthi inscription in Tochi valley, North Waziristan discovered by Ahmad Hasan Dani

 

[shahbaz baig]

Alaxander the great also went on a road trip from Greece and still Pakistan was intact and remained in his empire as well

So technically speaking regions we call Pakistan were at one point part of Persian Empire then Alexander's Greek Empire (which obviously was short lived after his death)

Some people claim that the Kalash people are some of the remenants of Soldiers that came with Alexander the great and they were left over and later just forgot to go back
One of tribes in Pakistan

Member of Pakistan's ancient tribes perhaps who may be connected to the soldiers / forces that came with Mecedonian Alexander the great. In old times when a region was won, the Victor Commander would leave his subordinate incharge of region and then either return home or continue journey to next city after a resting period

The bigger point I wanted to make is that Pakistan/Iran/Iraq/Syria/Egypt/Palestine/Turkey all have shared universal borders with multiple empires in past so it was common they were all citizen of same empire (same passport etc)


I loved to know the old history specially if it belong to Pakistan. Now it's quite understandable to me that almost whole territory of Pakistan was governed by Persians Empire (550 BC). Persians humbly allowed other religions to grow in Pakistan/Afghanistan territory, Jewish 10th forgotten tribe also traveled in Pakistan/Afghanistan and latter accepted Islam in our territory. After that Alexander the Great invaded Persia & Persian Empire was collapsed, Alexander also captured Indian Land But latter gifted to Ambhi (vedantist) but under Alexander rule. after the death of Alexander many nation formed newly territories including Afghanistan and India formed the newly territories but India was merged with Pakistan (part of Persian Empire) and this region was called Indus Civilization. because Alexander Gifted to vedantist so Raja Dahir (663 – 712 AD) Hindu ruled on majority Persian land (Pakistan Majority of Persian then vedantist) along with their own Indian Land (Baharat). after that Arab Leader Mohammad Bin Qasim conquered from Sindh (711 AD) and finally got victory within a year. and we Pakistani are being taught about Mohammad Bin Qasim era but not the whole history.

We should teach the whole history about our land so that we can understand our territory better.

here i got three points.

1. Our ancestor have been living in our territory (Pakistan) Since Indus Civilization was formed which mainly contain Afghanistan-Pakistan-India. but the part of Persian Empire Afghanistan & Pakistan majority latter accepted the Islam.

2. we mainly/mostly belong to almost all phenotype and genotype except few African and Chinese (all form). we had upper cast Ancestors although we dont believe on cast system according to Islam there should not be a upper or lower casts but only taqwa

3. A person who lived near Indus valley (mostly Muslims) Geographically was started to call Indians/Hindu due to Raja Dahir Government which was actual Pakistan on the other side it was Baharat the actual Land for vedantist.

But it got me confuse here that why Indians linked Hindu name with Religion. because Hindu means a person who live near Indus valley which is Pakistan now, and Pakistan Root was Persia not baharat. so India should be called Vedantist rather then Hindu.

In short Kashmir belong to Indus valley it is integral part of Pakistan no doubt about it.

 

[shahbaz baig]

@Horus @waz @Irfan Baloch
Kindly please stick this thread

 

[Nexus]

Script looks rather primitive compared to its other ME sisters like Arabic since its easy to use.

here, i have written my name using @Kaptaan 's diagram. it's easy to use script and honestly i felt that it's much easier to write from left to right in (Indo European way) compared to Right to Left Right (Semitic way).

can anyone decode my name to English ?

http://image.ibb.co/ci12Ek/20170727_183941.jpg

 

[Mian Babban]

Alaxander the great also went on a road trip from Greece and still Pakistan was intact and remained in his empire as well

So technically speaking regions we call Pakistan were at one point part of Persian Empire then Alexander's Greek Empire (which obviously was short lived after his death)

Some people claim that the Kalash people are some of the remenants of Soldiers that came with Alexander the great and they were left over and later just forgot to go back
One of tribes in Pakistan

Member of Pakistan's ancient tribes perhaps who may be connected to the soldiers / forces that came with Mecedonian Alexander the great. In old times when a region was won, the Victor Commander would leave his subordinate incharge of region and then either return home or continue journey to next city after a resting period

The bigger point I wanted to make is that Pakistan/Iran/Iraq/Syria/Egypt/Palestine/Turkey all have shared universal borders with multiple empires in past so it was common they were all citizen of same empire (same passport etc)


I loved to know the old history specially if it belong to Pakistan. Now it's quite understandable to me that almost whole territory of Pakistan was governed by Persians Empire (550 BC). Persians humbly allowed other religions to grow in Pakistan/Afghanistan territory, Jewish 10th forgotten tribe also traveled in Pakistan/Afghanistan and latter accepted Islam in our territory. After that Alexander the Great invaded Persia & Persian Empire was collapsed, Alexander also captured Indian Land But latter gifted to Ambhi (vedantist) but under Alexander rule. after the death of Alexander many nation formed newly territories including Afghanistan and India formed the newly territories but India was merged with Pakistan (part of Persian Empire) and this region was called Indus Civilization. because Alexander Gifted to vedantist so Raja Dahir (663 – 712 AD) Hindu ruled on majority Persian land (Pakistan Majority of Persian then vedantist) along with their own Indian Land (Baharat). after that Arab Leader Mohammad Bin Qasim conquered from Sindh (711 AD) and finally got victory within a year. and we Pakistani are being taught about Mohammad Bin Qasim era but not the whole history.

We should teach the whole history about our land so that we can understand our territory better.

here i got three points.

1. Our ancestor have been living in our territory (Pakistan) Since Indus Civilization was formed which mainly contain Afghanistan-Pakistan-India. but the part of Persian Empire Afghanistan & Pakistan majority latter accepted the Islam.

2. we mainly/mostly belong to almost all phenotype and genotype except few African and Chinese (all form). we had upper cast Ancestors although we dont believe on cast system according to Islam there should not be a upper or lower casts but only taqwa

3. A person who lived near Indus valley (mostly Muslims) Geographically was started to call Indians/Hindu due to Raja Dahir Government which was actual Pakistan on the other side it was Baharat the actual Land for vedantist.

But it got me confuse here that why Indians linked Hindu name with Religion. because Hindu means a person who live near Indus valley which is Pakistan now, and Pakistan Root was Persia not baharat. so India should be called Vedantist rather then Hindu.

In short Kashmir belong to Indus valley it is integral part of Pakistan no doubt about it.

What has all this any thing to do with Kharosthi script? and 300 movie, seriously?

 

[Nexus]

Kharosthi inscription in Tochi valley, North Waziristan discovered by Ahmad Hasan Dani

View attachment 413641

here,

The Kandahar Greek Inscription is a portion of a Major Rock Edict in Greek, recovered in Kandahar, Afghanistan, in 1963

2. we mainly/mostly belong to almost all phenotype and genotype except few African and Chinese (all form).

agreed.

we had upper cast Ancestors although we dont believe on cast system according to Islam there should not be a upper or lower casts but only taqwa

majority of Eastern Pakistanis are from jat and Gujjar Ancestry with 30% Kammi population. stop claiming upper caste ancestry please, stick to your Persian/Arabic/Turkish roots.

3. A person who lived near Indus valley (mostly Muslims) Geographically was started to call Indians/Hindu due to Raja Dahir Government which was actual Pakistan on the other side it was Baharat the actual Land for vedantist.

hey @SarthakGanguly you should read this

here is the Famous Quote of Brahmin Raja Dahir of Sindh when he was on his way to last battle with Arabs.

"I am going to meet the Arabs in the open battle, and fight them as best as I can. If I crush them, my kingdom will then be put on a firm footing. But if I am killed honourably, the event will be recorded in the books of Arabia and India, and will be talked about by great men. It will be heard by other kings in the world, and it will be said that Raja Dahir of Sindh sacrificed his precious life for the sake of his country, in fighting with the enemy."[2]

— Raja Dahir

What has all this any thing to do with Kharosthi script? and 300 movie, seriously?

apparently Pakistan is just an currredpted version of word Persistani/Persian. dont tell me you dont know this even after being historian.

 

[The BrOkEn HeArT]

The title of this thread is purely wrong. There is nothing like "ancient Pakistan"' in this world.
When you talk about ancient India , you automatic discuss modern day Pakistan's land. Pakistan history starts from 1947 only.
Get your facts right.

 

[shahbaz baig]

What has all this any thing to do with Kharosthi script? and 300 movie, seriously?

Mod's Can delete if they wish,

majority of Eastern Pakistanis are from jat and Gujjar Ancestry with 30% Kammi population. stop claiming upper caste ancestry please, stick to your Persian/Arabic/Turkish roots.

Agreed East Pakistan. Now Bangladesh

here is the Famous Quote of Brahmin Raja Dahir of Sindh when he was on his way to last battle with Arabs.

"I am going to meet the Arabs in the open battle, and fight them as best as I can. If I crush them, my kingdom will then be put on a firm footing. But if I am killed honourably, the event will be recorded in the books of Arabia and India, and will be talked about by great men. It will be heard by other kings in the world, and it will be said that Raja Dahir of Sindh sacrificed his precious life for the sake of his country, in fighting with the enemy."[2]

— Raja Dahir

How can you relate Raja Dahir statement with the statement about Wrong word Hindu, Correct word Vedantist religiously ?
The term "Ind/Hind" has been stolen by Dravidians. It has absolutely nothing to do with Religion.

The title of this thread is purely wrong. There is nothing like "ancient Pakistan"' in this world.
When you talk about ancient India , you automatic discuss modern day Pakistan's land. Pakistan history starts from 1947 only.
Get your facts right.

Pakistani already are being taught about Mohammad Bin Qasim era but not the whole history.

Pakistan should teach the whole history about the land so that Pakistani can understand territory better including Kashmir.
it doest not matter what you think

 

[The BrOkEn HeArT]

Mod's Can delete if they wish,


Agreed East Pakistan. Now Bangladesh

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How can you relate Raja Dahir statement with the statement about Wrong word Hindu, Correct word Vedantist religiously ?
The term "Ind/Hind" has been stolen by Dravidians. It has absolutely nothing to do with Religion.


Pakistani already are being taught about Mohammad Bin Qasim era but not the whole history.

Pakistan should teach the whole history about the land so that Pakistani can understand territory better including Kashmir.
it doest not matter what you think

Pakistan can twist the history in texts books but facts will be remained facts.

 

[shahbaz baig]

Pakistan can twist the history in texts books but facts will be remained facts.

yup agreed facts should be learnt not the Vedantist fabricated stories

 

[Nexus]

Pakistan can twist the history in texts books but facts will be remained facts.

hes a low caste kammi who claims Mughal or Turkish Ancestry some pakistani members told me that people from low caste starts claiming mughal lineage in order to get acceptance from upper muslim class

Mod's Can delete if they wish,


Agreed East Pakistan. Now Bangladesh

​

How can you relate Raja Dahir statement with the statement about Wrong word Hindu, Correct word Vedantist religiously ?
The term "Ind/Hind" has been stolen by Dravidians. It has absolutely nothing to do with Religion.


Pakistani already are being taught about Mohammad Bin Qasim era but not the whole history.

Pakistan should teach the whole history about the land so that Pakistani can understand territory better including Kashmir.
it doest not matter what you think

what a wannabe Mughal kaami have to do with great brahmin kings like dahir ? he literally enslaved your kind with Buddhists

next what ? are you going to claim dahir lineage just like you claim mughal lineage ? ;lol:

 

[shahbaz baig]

hes a low caste kammi who claims Mughal or Turkish Ancestry some pakistani members told me that people from low caste starts claiming mughal lineage in order to get acceptance from upper muslim class



what a wannabe Mughal kaami have to do with great brahmin kings like dahir ? he literally enslaved your kind with Buddhists

next what ? are you going to claim dahir lineage just like you claim mughal lineage ? ;lol:

now when you have no words to say as usual Indian lair style "Personal Attack" even with zero history knowledge".

any honest person can easily judge your mentality & ancestor

if you are personally interested for me. feel free to read
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Baig, also commonly spelled Beg, or Begh was a title of Turko-Mongol origin, which is today used as a name to identify lineage. It means Chief or Commander and is common in Pakistan, India, Afghanistan, Turkey, Iran, Caucasus, Central Asia and Eastern Europe (former Yugoslav) and among their respective diaspora.

Etymology
The name Baig is derived from the Iranian Languages word Beg or Bey, which itself comes from the Proto-Aryan *bege- "God", from Proto-Indo-European *bʰágo- "God, divinity" *bʰag-.

Beg was also subsequently used as a military rank in the Ottoman Empire.

It was also used during the Qing dynasty in China. When the Qing dynasty ruled Xinjiang, it permitted the Turkic Begs in the Altishahr region to maintain their previous status, and they administered the area for the Qing as officials. High-ranking Begs were allowed to wear the Queue.

This should be enough for you if not feel free to read here
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And by the way your Great king Raja Dahir was badly defeated by the Great Great Great Arab King Mohammad Bin Qasim with limited resources.
And the Mughal Empire Ruled low Hindu mindset like you

this insult should be enough for you
A word is enough to the wise. enjoy

 

[Narcissist]

OP failed to mention one time that gandhara was the name of Peshawar, and was one of the largest cities at the time... yet he mentions Taxila as a part of gandhara.

It appears the attempts at stealing heritage isn't limited to indians.

LOL "centered around Taxila". K buddy... rrrrright.

 

[defence_analyst]

OP failed to mention one time that gandhara was the name of Peshawar, and was one of the largest cities at the time... yet he mentions Taxila as a part of gandhara.

It appears the attempts at stealing heritage isn't limited to indians.

LOL "centered around Taxila". K buddy... rrrrright.

Gandhara is name of civilisation with Taxila being its capital. Peshawar ancient name was Puruṣapura in Sanskrit.

 

[Narcissist]

Gandhara is name of civilisation with Taxila being its capital. Peshawar ancient name was Puruṣapura in Sanskrit.

LOL!! Taxila? WTF? The capital was initially Charssadda, and during the Kushans (i.e. only it's golden era) the capital was moved to Peshawar. For most of Gandhara's history, the capital was Peshawar. It was never Taxila.

Taxila was a part of Gandhara (but also the Mauryan empire), but to claim it was the capital is stealing heritage and lying about the past. If you want to lie to yourself, be my guest. But some people come here thinking a long winded diatribe is indicative of intellectual authority. Such is certainly not necessary, and flaws should be pointed out. The sad part is, the rest of the opening post was pretty decent. The location of capital was way off the mark though. Not to mention there was no mention of Peshawar. It destroys the value of the entire initial post.