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Map of Egypt, showing the archaeological site of Abusir-el Meleq (orange X), and the location of the modern Egyptian samples used in the study (orange circles). Credit: Graphic: Annette Guenzel. Credit: Nature Communications, DOI: 10.1038/NCOMMS15694


The first genome data from ancient Egyptian mummies

An international team of scientists, led by researchers from the University of Tuebingen and the Max Planck Institute for the Science of Human History in Jena, successfully recovered and analyzed ancient DNA from Egyptian mummies dating from approximately 1400 BCE to 400 CE, including the first genome-wide nuclear data from three individuals, establishing ancient Egyptian mummies as a reliable source for genetic material to study the ancient past. The study, published today in Nature Communications, found that modern Egyptians share more ancestry with Sub-Saharan Africans than ancient Egyptians did, whereas ancient Egyptians were found to be most closely related to ancient people from the Near East.

Egypt is a promising location for the study of ancient populations. It has a rich and well-documented history, and its geographic location and many interactions with populations from surrounding areas, in Africa, Asia and Europe, make it a dynamic region. Recent advances in the study of ancient DNA present an intriguing opportunity to test existing understandings of Egyptian history using ancient genetic data.

However, genetic studies of ancient Egyptian mummies are rare due to methodological and contamination issues. Although some of the first extractions of ancient DNA were from mummified remains, scientists have raised doubts as to whether genetic data, especially nuclear genome data, from mummies would be reliable, even if it could be recovered. "The potential preservation of DNA has to be regarded with skepticism," confirms Johannes Krause, Director at the Max Planck Institute for the Science of Human History in Jena and senior author of the study. "The hot Egyptian climate, the high humidity levels in many tombs and some of the chemicals used in mummification techniques, contribute to DNA degradation and are thought to make the long-term survival of DNA in Egyptian mummies unlikely." The ability of the authors of this study to extract nuclear DNA from such mummies and to show its reliability using robust authentication methods is a breakthrough that opens the door to further direct study of mummified remains.

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For this study, an international team of researchers from the University of Tuebingen, the Max Planck Institute for the Science of Human History in Jena, the University of Cambridge, the Polish Academy of Sciences, and the Berlin Society of Anthropology, Ethnology and Prehistory, looked at genetic differentiation and population continuity over a 1,300 year timespan, and compared these results to modern populations. The team sampled 151 mummified individuals from the archaeological site of Abusir el-Meleq, along the Nile River in Middle Egypt, from two anthropological collections hosted and curated at the University of Tuebingen and the Felix von Luschan Skull Collection at the Museum of Prehistory of the Staatliche Museen zu Berlin, Stiftung Preussicher Kulturbesitz.


In total, the authors recovered mitochondrial genomes from 90 individuals, and genome-wide datasets from three individuals. They were able to use the data gathered to test previous hypotheses drawn from archaeological and historical data, and from studies of modern DNA. "In particular, we were interested in looking at changes and continuities in the genetic makeup of the ancient inhabitants of Abusir el-Meleq," said Alexander Peltzer, one of the lead authors of the study from the University of Tuebingen. The team wanted to determine if the investigated ancient populations were affected at the genetic level by foreign conquest and domination during the time period under study, and compared these populations to modern Egyptian comparative populations. "We wanted to test if the conquest of Alexander the Great and other foreign powers has left a genetic imprint on the ancient Egyptian population," explains Verena Schuenemann, group leader at the University of Tuebingen and one of the lead authors of this study.


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Close genetic relationship between ancient Egyptians and ancient populations in the Middle East

The study found that ancient Egyptians were most closely related to ancient populations in the Levant and Middle East, and were also closely related to Neolithic populations from the Anatolian Peninsula and Europe. "The genetics of the Abusir el-Meleq community did not undergo any major shifts during the 1,300 year timespan we studied, suggesting that the population remained genetically relatively unaffected by foreign conquest and rule," says Wolfgang Haak, group leader at the Max Planck Institute for the Science of Human History in Jena. The data shows that modern Egyptians share approximately 8% more ancestry on the nuclear level with Sub-Saharan African populations than with ancient Egyptians. "This suggests that an increase in Sub-Saharan African gene flow into Egypt occurred within the last 1,500 years," explains Stephan Schiffels, group leader at the Max Planck Institute for the Science of Human History in Jena. Possible causal factors may have been improved mobility down the Nile River, increased long-distance trade between Sub-Saharan Africa and Egypt, and the trans-Saharan slave trade that began approximately 1,300 years ago.

This study counters prior skepticism about the possibility of recovering reliable ancient DNA from Egyptian mummies. Despite the potential issues of degradation and contamination caused by climate and mummification methods, the authors were able to use high-throughput DNA sequencing and robust authentication methods to ensure the ancient origin and reliability of the data. The study thus shows that Egyptian mummies can be a reliable source of ancient DNA, and can greatly contribute to a more accurate and refined understanding of Egypt's population history.
 
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It is obvious that the Egyptians are closely related to the Arabs and any other population/civilisation that was close to them geographically.. only the ignorants would want to think otherwise..

Did you read the article? It speaks about ancient Egyptians. About modern Egyptians, the study says:

"Modern Egyptians, by contrast, have inherited more of their DNA from central Africans."

"Strikingly, the mummies were more closely related to ancient Europeans and Anatolians than to modern Egyptians."

So it seems like modern Egyptians have little genetic connection to the ancient population of Egypt. Ancient Egyptians were basically Middle Easterners who migrated to Egypt after the Neolithic Revolution. Not Arabs per se, as northern Semites in the Levant have a different genetic make up than southern Semites around the Arabian Peninsula.
 
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Ancient Egyptians more closely related to Europeans than modern Egyptians, scientists claim

Scientists who managed to obtain full genome sequences of Ancient Egyptians for the first time have concluded the people of the pharaohs were more closely related to modern Europeans and inhabitants of the Near East rather than present-day Egyptians.

But the claims sparked suspicion from one leading Egyptologist, who questioned whether genetic analysis could justify such a sweeping statement and pointed to a long history of spurious attempts to separate ancient Egyptians from the modern-day population.

The mummies were taken from a single archaeological site on the River Nile, Abusir el-Meleq, which was inhabited from 3,250BC to 700AD and was home to a cult of Osiris, the god of the dead, making it a good place to be buried.

A complete genome sequence was obtained for three mummies and mitochondrial DNA, which is passed through the female line, was obtained from 90 individuals. They were dated to between about 1,400BC and 400AD.

The researchers, writing in the journal Nature Communications, admitted their sample “may not be representative for all of ancient Egypt”.

Nevertheless, they concluded the mummified people were “distinct from modern Egyptians, and closer towards Near Eastern and European samples”.

“Our analyses reveal that ancient Egyptians shared more ancestry with Near Easterners than present-day Egyptians,” they wrote.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/s...ptians-europeans-related-claims-a7763866.html

Modern Lebanese and Greeks are closer related to ancient Egyptians than modern-day Egyptians. Quite a surprising revelation.
 
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Modern Lebanese and Greeks are closer related to ancient Egyptians than modern-day Egyptians. Quite a surprising revelation.
Pharaohs not necessary represent the whole population of Egypt.
 
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Did you read the article? It speaks about ancient Egyptians. About modern Egyptians, the study says:





So it seems like modern Egyptians have little genetic connection to the ancient population of Egypt. Ancient Egyptians were basically Middle Easterners who migrated to Egypt after the Neolithic Revolution. Not Arabs per se, as northern Semites in the Levant have a different genetic make up than southern Semites around the Arabian Peninsula.
There was a lot of intermix, the African origins, the Romans(read Cleopatra times), the Greeks(read Alexander the Great), Mesopotamia and so on.., there are conflicting studies about ancient and modern Egyptian genomes like you can see in this thread..Studies depend on the variables used and also some parameters, So I'll stick to my own analysis of the obvious links of the Egyptians to the middle east and Africa and all of the Mediterranean neighbourhood..
 
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Complete set of lies to claim an entire civilisation for themselves.

Just like how they europeanised Jesus .

Egypt is in Africa and the civilisation belongs to Africans, North Africans.

Europeans have no civilisation except Rome, then these guys always try to create confusion among the inheritors of other civilisations.

Carbon dating is inconclusive and the DNA techniques they use also depend on probability.

Today's scientific studies at best are inconclusive.

If it was not written in bible that Jews were enslaved in Egypt and liberated by Moses, these guys would have claimed Egyptians are Jews and later converted to Christianity.
 
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One thing I love about DNA genome testing is, no matter your family/folk/tribal myth, it cannot be embellished by lies or with invented family trees. DNA does not lie.

As for those crying foul, I am sure you have collected and analysed DNA from ancient mummies that contradict this study?
 
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That's a very inaccurate interpretation of the study in question. Go read it for yourselves here.

What the researchers found is that the ancient Egyptian were genetically less Subsaharan than modern Egyptians. Nuclear Ancient Egyptian DNA is 6-15% Subsaharan, compared to 12%-21% in modern Egyptians. This increase in Subsaharan ancestry appears to have occurred in the last 2000 years or so.

The study itself suggests that an accurate model for the genetics of modern Egyptians is one where the modern population is descended from the ancient one, contradicting the title of this post/article, together with relatively recent admixture with other populations - most notably Subsaharan Africans.

The authors propose several explanations: it could be due to greater mobility down the Nile (e.g. Southern to Northern migrations within Egypt itself), and it could also be due to miscegenation with African slaves brought into Egypt by Muslim slave merchants.

The linked article also erroneously states that the ancient Egyptian samples resemble more modern Levantines than they do modern Egyptians. Rather, the distance between Egyptians and Near Easterners has increased in the last 2000 years due to the latter's increase in Subsaharan ancestry. Nonetheless, of all modern populations examined by the study, modern Egyptians are the least genetically distant from the ancient Egyptian samples (Supplementary Data 4).
 
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Complete set of lies to claim an entire civilisation for themselves.

Just like how they europeanised Jesus .

Egypt is in Africa and the civilisation belongs to Africans, North Africans.

Europeans have no civilisation except Rome, then these guys always try to create confusion among the inheritors of other civilisations.

Carbon dating is inconclusive and the DNA techniques they use also depend on probability.

Today's scientific studies at best are inconclusive.

If it was not written in bible that Jews were enslaved in Egypt and liberated by Moses, these guys would have claimed Egyptians are Jews and later converted to Christianity.

The research is claiming they were ancient Middle's Easterners, not Europeans. I think it's quite plausible, given the depth of interaction between Egypt and ancient Middle Easterners like Hyksos, Babylonians, Assyrians, etc, and the difficulty of crossing the Sahara in antiquity.
 
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