Analysis: Iranian cruise missile unveiling raises questions about range

[Azeri440]

I don't have doubts about engine but the fact that it is ground launched means it has a range of less than 2500

 

[Arminkh]

I don't have doubts about engine but the fact that it is ground launched means it has a range of less than 2500

That may be true. We don't know for how long the booster will last.

 

[The SC]

...................................................................................................etc, at the end of the article the author just contradicts him/herself by saying that the Iranian cruise missile can reach Usrael, so that is at least 1500km. How is that possible? if the engine is not powerful enough or if Iran could not make one?
Shouldn't we say it is a BS article, and move on to something more interesting.

 

[-SINAN-]

Let me ask from our experts ( @Abii @Zarvan @AUz )

What is the type of this engine ?

Ohh, i get it.

That's a TurboJet engine..not a TurboFan.

What you are seeing is the low pressure compressor of a TurboJet.

In the TurboFan engines, there would be a a fan before the low pressure compressor, and bypass duct happens to be after the Fan... without a fan, compressor will simply suck all of the air into the engine, that's why A fan is being used to divert some of the airflow into the bypass.

If you photoshop a fan to the entrance , problem will be solved.

That may be true. We don't know for how long the booster will last.

You know cruise missiles with a booster is being from the aircrafts...in LACMs booster is being used for accelerating the missile to the cruise speed.

Are you gonna swear at me.

 

[SOHEIL]

Ohh, i get it.

That's a TurboJet engine..not a TurboFan.

What you are seeing is the low pressure compressor of a TurboJet.

In the TurboFan engines, there would be a a fan before the low pressure compressor, and bypass duct happens to be after the Fan... without a fan, compressor will simply suck all of the air into the engine, that's why A fan is being used to divert some of the airflow into the bypass.

If you photoshop a fan to the entrance , problem will be solved.

Proved your Ignorance :

 

[Arminkh]

Ohh, i get it.

That's a TurboJet engine..not a TurboFan.

What you are seeing is the low pressure compressor of a TurboJet.

In the TurboFan engines, there would be a a fan before the low pressure compressor, and bypass duct happens to be after the Fan... without a fan, compressor will simply suck all of the air into the engine, that's why A fan is being used to divert some of the airflow into the bypass.

If you photoshop a fan to the entrance , problem will be solved.


You know cruise missiles with a booster is being from the aircrafts...in LACMs booster is being used for accelerating the missile to the cruise speed.

Are you gonna swear at me.

Not at all. With what you posted above re turbofan and turbojet, I don't think that would be necessary. Carry on!

 

[-SINAN-]

Proved your Ignorance :

Good job, by posting another turbojet engine's pic....

What you posted is Ukrainian, Motor Sich's P95TM-300 TurboJet.

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Р95-300
"korotkoresursny turbojet engine. It also has the designation "Product 95". Designed for installation on subsonic aircraft"

P95TM-300 is the modified version of P95-300.

I guess, i don't have to say which one looks like yours.
The Russian-Ukrainian joint venture will build engines for missiles in 2012 | Encyclopedia of safety

Gonna swear at me now ?

Edit: Before you say, that red thingy is not a fan but just a simple cover.

Not at all. With what you posted above re turbofan and turbojet, I don't think that would be necessary. Carry on!

What i posted, is a TurboJet and TurboFan....and there is no such thing as a "re turbofan".

I would say go and learn about Turbine engines...but as i know you, you are going to post more non-sense.

 

[Abii]

@SOHEIL I don't know much, but neither do you. I look at the state of affairs of a nation and judge the words of its leaders and important members of its community based on that. When big words come out of a nation that has a failed economy, is under sanctions, it's a pariah state, is a brutal dictatorship, it has a track record of lying time after time, has never done anything important in its modern history etc... the words become meaningless. You're a jackass on the internet just like me. I may not know much about military affairs, but I compensate with common sense. You compensate with emoticons and your sense of nationalism and your jingoistic attitude.

 

[Azeri440]

That may be true. We don't know for how long the booster will last.

The booster will of course provide a good range increase but it won't reach the range of air launched version for obvious reasons.

 

[Arminkh]

The booster will of course provide a good range increase but it won't reach the range of air launched version for obvious reasons.

Both Ground launched and air launched variety need to reach a predetermined altitude and from that point, they will cruise the same path. If the booster can push the missile all the way to that altitude and give it the maximum speed that it will eventually cruise at, I don't see why it's range should be any less than an air born one.

But as i mentioned, we don't know how long that booster will last. So it is a credible possibility that it will have shorter range than the air born one. A larger booster can overcome that problem.

 

[SOHEIL]

Good job, by posting another turbofan engine's pic....

What you posted is Ukrainian, Motor Sich's P95TM-300 TurboJet.

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Р95-300
"korotkoresursny turbojet engine. It also has the designation "Product 95". Designed for installation on subsonic aircraft"

P95TM-300 is the modified version of P95-300.

I guess, i don't have to say which one looks like yours.
The Russian-Ukrainian joint venture will build engines for missiles in 2012 | Encyclopedia of safety

Gonna swear at me now ?

Edit: Before you say, that red thingy is not a fan but just a simple cover.


What i posted, is a TurboJet and TurboFan....and there is no such thing as a "re turbofan".

I would say go and learn about Turbine engines...but as i know you, you are going to post more non-sense.

Nonsense ...

 

[-SINAN-]

Nonsense ...

Go on ... prove

My proof is in my posts in this threads with explanations, pics, sources, diagrams against your "Nonsense ... "

Let's not drag this any further and let the readers to decide.

 

[SOHEIL]

View attachment 204596

Go on ... prove

 

[Arminkh]

Good job, by posting another turbofan engine's pic....

What you posted is Ukrainian, Motor Sich's P95TM-300 TurboJet.

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Р95-300
"korotkoresursny turbojet engine. It also has the designation "Product 95". Designed for installation on subsonic aircraft"

P95TM-300 is the modified version of P95-300.

I guess, i don't have to say which one looks like yours.
The Russian-Ukrainian joint venture will build engines for missiles in 2012 | Encyclopedia of safety

Gonna swear at me now ?

Edit: Before you say, that red thingy is not a fan but just a simple cover.


What i posted, is a TurboJet and TurboFan....and there is no such thing as a "re turbofan".

I would say go and learn about Turbine engines...but as i know you, you are going to post more non-sense.

Are we angry now?

A few points for you.

This picture that @SOHEIL posted is showing the exhaust not the intake. As you mentioned in your own post, the fan is at the front of the engine not back side. Again you misunderstood the post. It is getting out of control. On the back side you should see the low pressure turbine of the core (which you can see) and the bypass duct around it (which again you can see)

This is the front intake and you can see the fan (note the white paint on the fins)

2nd note, you are correct there is no such thing as "re turbofan". "re" stands for "regarding" in casual English writings.

You don't need swearing. You need to work on your attention and learn to make sure you have correctly understood the other side before disputing it.

Now let's see if you are man enough to apologize for your misunderstanding and wasting our time.

 

[-SINAN-]

Go on ... prove

Are we angry now?

A few points for you.

This picture that @SOHEIL posted is showing the exhaust not the intake. As you mentioned in your own post, the fan is at the front of the engine not back side. Again you misunderstood the post. It is getting out of control. On the back side you should see the low pressure turbine of the core (which you can see) and the bypass duct around it (which again you can see)

This is the front intake and you can see the fan (note the white paint on the fins)

View attachment 204606

2nd note, you are correct there is no such thing as "re turbofan". "re" stands for "regarding" in casual English writings.

You don't need swearing. You need to work on your attention and learn to make sure you have correctly understood the other side before disputing it.

Now let's see if you are man enough to apologize for your misunderstanding and wasting our time.

1-) My epic fail then.. though, i don't think the fault lies with me.. you could have added more info.

2-) Still, i'm not still sure about the bypass duct it can very well be the cover around the casing.

3-) We can go nowhere from here, just mention me if you got a clear pic of the fan.