AN OPEN LETTER BY A COMMON KASHMIRI TO ALL INDIANS

[crankthatskunk]

More like Indians should invite a foreign firm to come and make a dam in Indian Kashmir, which will submerge 100 villages and displace about 100,000 people. Many of those affected, will then be given a work permit to that foreign country as compensation, and those migrants will go there earn dollars/pounds come back and make mansions.

Win! Although Kashmiris would have to leave the "motherland" for which they have been jihading for.

Yeah, and why didn't you allow your Kashmiris to go overseas and build mansions?
Why are you keeping them poor and making them live in squalid conditions?
The point you deliberately missed, who is free?

Plus we know what games you are playing in Kashmir to block the water, for that reason, I say your number is fast approaching, no denying it. This thuggery can not continue by the Indians and would not be tolerated.

 

[crankthatskunk]

[video]http://www.youtube.com/user/TheKashmirNews#p/u/3/NzUGOuVcqfc[/video]


Really ?

I didn't show you a propaganda video, i showed you videos of Houses and their areas, Kashmiris themselves made.

 

[gaurish]

Yeah, and why didn't you allow your Kashmiris to go overseas and build mansions?
Why are you keeping them poor and making them live in squalid conditions?
The point you deliberately missed, who is free?

Plus we know what games you are playing in Kashmir to block the water, for that reason, I say your number is fast approaching, no denying it. This thuggery can not continue by the Indians and would not be tolerated.

prove your words .... who told you kashmiris are kept poor and not allowed to prosper??? I know many kashmiris personally ... i have mixed feelings about them ... but nothings tells me that they are not allowed to prosper

 

[Rig Vedic]

Pakistanis can make a beginning by lifting the ban that disallows JKLF from contesting elections in Pakistan occupied Kashmir.

 

[desioptimist]

Yeah, and why didn't you allow your Kashmiris to go overseas and build mansions?
Why are you keeping them poor and making them live in squalid conditions?
The point you deliberately missed, who is free?

Plus we know what games you are playing in Kashmir to block the water, for that reason, I say your number is fast approaching, no denying it. This thuggery can not continue by the Indians and would not be tolerated.

Kashmiris are not poor. They get net assistance than contribute to Indian Economy(they are not the only state there are others).
About not tolerated? By who? Nothing that India does is new. Infact India has started to move troops away from kashmir which should be welcomed.

 

[mautkimaut]

To live in a fool`s paradise is bliss but for how long??


Dear Indians,

Feel the pulse of The Kashmiri people, are they really talking about supporting you and other political parties supported/protected by India or are they talking about ways to counter the Indian occupation despite the fact that the whole world these days seems to be with the Indian opinion including the Government in Pakistan. The supporters of National Conference/PDP and other Indian political parties are seen as enemies (agents of India) by an overwhelming majority of Kashmiri people
To make you guyz understand my point try answering or at least giving a thought to these Questions:

1) Are these 7.2 million Kashmiri people crazy?


I mean why keep fighting against a country that is 1.3 billion strong and an army which is arguably one of the 10 best in the world plus an economy that is growing at 9 percent annually (PHENOMENAL GROWTH). Now a mind that can make those beautiful silk and wool rugs/carpets which have a language of their own, those exquisite wood-carvings, that ethereal papier-mâché box, that intricate khatamband on your ceiling, those exotic samovars in copper or that delicate Pashmina shawl with fabulous embroidery is surely highly evolved and intelligent. Why then are these kashmiri people so stupid and not see what you indians are showing them?

2)What do you think needs to be done by you or the other Indians/politicians to change this attitude/belief in the majority of Kashmiri people?

3) What is this subconscious feeling that gives these people a ludicrous sentiment called “Aazadi” despite their numerous shortcomings when it comes to actually getting that “Aazadi”?

4) In a world where energy costs are soaring will you Indians ever be able to tap the full potential of Kashmiri people without changing the Indus Water treaty as it stands today? Haven’t you grossly wronged us here?

5) And will India/Pakistan ever let you change this ridiculous treaty because to do that they would have to give Kashmir an independent status first?

6)Does this mean that we have to forever live in perpetual darkness at the cost of being totally dependent on these nations for all our essential commodities/services/progress?

7) Why is it that in Kashmir even a small child in an expensive private public school is more likely to support the Pakistan cricket team than the Indian team??

8 )All these people know that Pakistan is nothing better than India, maybe even worse but still they keep on cheering the Pakistan team!!!!! Why? I mean India has almost 300 million Muslims living inside it. Why then do these Kashmiris have this crazy sentiment of supporting your enemy? Surely it can’t be the Muslim sentiment as in that case they should be supporting India which has many more Muslims?

9) Is singing the Indian National Anthem or performing the great Indian rope trick going to help you Indians change the mindset of these foolish Kashmiri people? Why is it then that even after being with India for 60 years, Kashmiri people still want independence?

10)Do you need to change their ideology by giving them an even stronger ideology or are these people (who over the ages have been Pagans, Hindus, Jews, Buddhists and now Muslims) refractive to your promise of a better future?

11) Or is it that “As these people are NOT listening to your ideology/viewpoint, then why not do what you have been doing for the last 60 years or so” i.e. with the help of your brutal/barbaric Indian army continue beating the sh*t out of them till these stupid peasants stop complaining and start following your democratic view-point??

12) OR IS IT TIME MY DEAR INDIAN THAT YOU HAVE TO CHANGE YOURSELF?????


Kashmiris although small in numbers vis a vis India are an intelligent people, do not underestimate their resilience and periods of silence as a sign of weakness. The recent protests are not a once upon a time kind of phenomenon on the contrary, it is a continual warning, a declaration, a gale force wind before the actual storm. Change is constant as life itself is dynamic, the ones who adapt and change will be the ones who survive. Kashmiris have survived a millennium as kashmiris. Chances are that they will survive this particular onslaught too, or in other words you may be surrounded by a few immoral kashmiri supporters and hindutva fanatics who make you feel that your current path is the right one but at the end of the day these supporters are nothing but greedy opportunistic individuals only interested in forwarding their own private causes at the expense of their honest, trustworthy and hard-working fellow kashmiris.

A simple god-fearing individual in Kashmir/jammu is not voting for you because he/she loves india and respects its constitution. He is voting for you because at the moment the poor downtrodden fella has no other option and he needs to survive the moment he gets to cast a neutral vote, he will let you and all the other indian politicians know what he thinks of you, india and your pseudo-democratic ideology!!!!!!!!


Today, my dear human Indian, when you get time, look at yourself in a mirror, ask your soul/conscience a simple question .Are you Indians doing the right thing in Kashmir? If your conscience is not prejudiced, you will get the right answer.

Source : FRONTLINE KASHMIR (fb)
FRONTLINE KASHMIR (blog)

aye arshenholler...
Stop posting articles from blogs..
and no more articles on Kashmir are allowed in PDF

 

[justanobserver]

I thought only senior members could post Kashmir related articles ?

 

[punit]

1) Are these 7.2 million Kashmiri people crazy?

nope .. but A FEW THOUSAND brainwashed ones ( of course including u ) certianly are but dont worry we are giving them mass treatment and situation is improving rapidly .. so

 

[Tshering22]

Doesn't include other communities of Kashmir state and hence is invalid.

 

[Ammyy]

Doesn't include other communities of Kashmir state and hence is invalid.

Dnt worry buddy...

My Colleague belongs to Jammu and people on PDF dnt want to know his views about Pakistan

 

[crankthatskunk]

prove your words .... who told you kashmiris are kept poor and not allowed to prosper??? I know many kashmiris personally ... i have mixed feelings about them ... but nothings tells me that they are not allowed to prosper

Why don't you provide the video evidence like I did? Or Shall I produce the videos how Kashmiris are treated in occupied Kashmir?

 

[crankthatskunk]

Kashmiris are not poor. They get net assistance than contribute to Indian Economy(they are not the only state there are others).
About not tolerated? By who? Nothing that India does is new. Infact India has started to move troops away from kashmir which should be welcomed.

Yeah, sure, pull the other one. India is crushing them for 6 decades, they don't want to be with you, you are occupiers, get this in your head. They don't want your assistance, they want freedom. Once they are with Pakistan or select independent Kashmir, whatever they want, they would prosper without your assistance. Like they are in Pakistan. Kashmiris are prosper and happy in Pakistan, the occupied territory Kashmiris know this fact. Get out of Kashmir.

 

[StingRoy]

More like Indians should invite a foreign firm to come and make a dam in Indian Kashmir, which will submerge 100 villages and displace about 100,000 people. Many of those affected, will then be given a work permit to that foreign country as compensation, and those migrants will go there earn dollars/pounds come back and make mansions.

Win! Although Kashmiris would have to leave the "motherland" for which they have been jihading for.

You literally took the exact words of my mouth buddy.... nice post

 

[axisofevil]

Shamil Khan......kashmir has been divided into 3 parts among China, Pakistan and India. So please ask yourself, why do you insist we give up kashmir when you fail to ask Pakistan and China to do so. We have many pandits who left Kashmir due to the violence inflicted on them. Did you ever give a damn about them or did your conscience ever affect you about their misery they are being put thru? IF YOU ARE NOT HAPPY TO BE INDIAN, BY ALL MEANS PLEASE GO AND BECOME A PAKISTANI CITIZEN OR CHINESE CITIZEN.

---------- Post added at 08:41 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:40 PM ----------

Why don't you provide the video evidence like I did? Or Shall I produce the videos how Kashmiris are treated in occupied Kashmir?

HOW ABOUT YOU GIVE YOUR PIECE OF KASHMIR FREEDOM?

 

[take_a_chill_pill]

I am thoroughly disappointed by the juvenile nature of many of the debates/discussions in this forum that eventually turn out to become something along the lines of "my daddy is better than your daddy". If we want to have a constructive argument on posted topics, I humbly request we all think twice before bashing others' posts. I'm an Indian citizen btw, if anyone's wondering, perhaps, that's not important. Now onwards to the issue at hand.

First of all, I would like to appreciate the author's calm tone and nature in expressing his viewpoints unlike many others from both sides of the border. Although, I have to say that I disagree with the author's viewpoints in his post. There are few inconsistencies as many have pointed out before me. First, I would like to say that the author's claim that all Kashmiris, muslims in particular, share the same viewpoint is not true. I can understand that the author's peers may share the same viewpoint, but it is not justified to extend that claim over the entire state of Kashmir. I have heard many Kashmiris, both pundits and muslims as well as sikhs and other communities, say otherwise.

Let me lay down some facts first. Following Pakistan's invasion of Kashmir, an independent princely-state at that time, in October 1947, right after the whole independence struggle, Kashmir requested India's intervention. It was mutual understanding between both parties that Indian troops would withdraw after rendering military assistance. It was at this time the Instrument of Accession was signed by the then ruler of Kashmir, Maharaja Hari Singh. Following that emergency was declared in Kashmir and Sheikh Abdullah was appointed as the Head of Emergency Administration by the Maharaja in October 1947. He went on to become the Prime Minister of Kashmir in 1948. The UN intervened following the Indo-Pak war of 1947 and asked Pakistan to leave the state of Kashmir and had also asked to settle the accession issue by a plebiscite, ie an electoral vote. Sheikh Abdullah went on to become the Prime Minister of Kashmir in 1948. In the following years, with the state still being divided, elections were conducted in Kashmir in Aug/Sep 1951 to form the Constitutional Assembly in Kashmir. Sheik Abdullah was again appointed as Prime Minister of Kashmir and he addressed the assembly to form the state's constitution and come to a conclusion regarding accession. In 1954, the assembly unanimously ratified the state's accession to India. In 1957, Kashmir's constitution was framed which recognised the state of J&K to be an integral part of the Union of India.

What I aim to convey from this long drawl of boring statements is that the entire state of Kashmir, which then had more than 70% muslim population decided to be annexed to India. And this was under the leadership of a muslim Prime Minister of Kashmir. So the issue is not that all Kashmiri muslims hate India and want Kashmir to be a part of Pakistan. The fact is that, some Kashmiri muslims (may be not all but still, many) still do want to be a part of India. Many non-Kashmiris, ie people from other parts of Pakistan have settled in after the Indo-Pak wars, which is not the case in Indian-Kashmir where a majority are natives. So, I can't say that the general voice of is purely a native-Kashmiri voice.

I'm not saying that what you feel is wrong and trying to discredit your views totally. I'm just saying that there are other Kashmiris, muslims even, who have a birthright to the land of Kashmir and feel otherwise. I have heard stories of Kashmiri muslims coming to the refugee camps, set up by the Indian Army during the period when pundits were coerced to leave their homeland, searching for their pundit friends and neighbours to bring them back home. These muslim populous were very sad when their pundit friends had to leave their lands because of political tension. Such was the accord between Kashmiri muslims and pundits. I don't understand where that relationship is now... in Kashmir and elsewhere in the world.

You know, there was a time when Sheikh Abdullah saw both Pakistan and India as friendly nations and had amicable relationships with both Nehru and Jinnah. The state of Kashmir, before all this crazy happenings, actually sought to bring peace between India and Pakistan. But greedy buggers on both sides of the border screwed it up real bad.

It is understandable though. Both India and Pakistan had just become independent states and were trying to get a firm footing as independent states and hence the squabble over territory. The issue of Kashmir is not restricted to Kashmir alone. After the separation of India and Pakistan, a lot of families have been estranged, on both sides of the border. They felt the same way as many Kashmiris feel now. It was once quoted by L.K. Advani (a senior politician in India) that he longed to visit his home-town of Karachi and asked Gen. (retd) Musharraf how he would have liked to travel freely without any restrictions to his home-town of New Delhi.

So citizens of India, Pakistan and people elsewhere around the world, please lend a ear. I feel that for a peaceful neighbourhood in the South-Asian region as a whole, we as citizens from both countries should reduce the animosity felt to those across the border. Agreed, there have been various incidents and accusations from either ends. But it must not be forgotten that the state which makes these accusations is also involving in or has been involved in similar acts towards the accused state. This applies to both India and Pakistan. I don't want to get into details of terrorism as a state policy issue. I'll go on rambling if I do. Again, both India and Pakistan have in the past have done some shady stuff. But after 1990, by the order of the then Prime Minister I.K. Gujral, such activities were stopped by India on moral and ethical grounds and, as far as I know, till date haven't taken part in such activities. I hope the same can be the situation in the Pakistani government in the near future. And this is entirely in the hands of the citizens of the country. There are changing scenarios in Pakistan and they are welcomed by the citizens of India.

We as citizens of India, should offer our support to our counterparts in Pakistan to bring about change in their country and exercise democracy, and this cannot be accomplished if we keep accusing and posting hate-messages. If you really feel that you want the situation to become peaceful in both the countries, then do what you must. Just don't worsen the situation by cursing and blowing your head off on others. Mind you, I felt real bitter when 26/11 happened and in the heat of the situation, I wanted to march right into Pakistan with a gun in hand and do my deed. I realised later that it was very stupid of me to think that and it would not accomplish anything, just add fuel to the already raging inferno. I have many Pakistani friends here in the UK and they feel the same. So please, people, pipe down and lets look at the bigger issues that we as humans in general face.

Hope I made some sense and that a few out there actually heed to this.