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An insurgency swells, but Pakistan focuses on India

^^^your rants aside ---Pakistan and India have a history of anamosity, ethnic and religious violence, wars, insurgencies, border disputes, water disputes, mistrust of each other and what not. so based on this chequered history it would be foolish not to keep our focus on India.
 
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^^^your rants aside ---Pakistan and India have a history of anamosity, ethnic and religious violence, wars, insurgencies, border disputes, water disputes, mistrust of each other and what not. so based on this chequered history it would be foolish not to keep our focus on India.

Aawww Fatman17, for a thinktank your comment above was really pathetic. Toxic_pus gave a detailed account of what triggered the '71 dismemberment and all you could muster up is call that a "rant"! Wow! For what you are worth, either debunk his post or accept what he's posted.
Well keep focusing on India all you want, while your country burns from within. We sure have had a checkered history with multiple conflicts, but, seriously Pakistan needs to set its priorities right, recognize who/what its real enemies are and come to terms with reality instead of hallucinating, fancying a quixotic ideal and living in a fool's paradise!
 
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watch less yellow media of yours so that it clears your mind and make to able to see things for what they are and not what your sarkar and media show you.

Labeling the Indian media as Yellow Media will simply not change the ground reality - your stance is aking to ostriches buying their heads in the ground to avoid a coming storm.

Your stance is a classic case of living in denial - come out of your cave mentality. Everyone knows that they are multiple centres of power in Pakistan, some more powerful than the others, some draw their power from the law and the others from the brute force of the gun, the latter being the more successful of the lot. Forget the Indian media read some international news for a change and see what they have to say about Pakistan, such exposure wont exactly kill you.

I know it stings but the truth usually does.
 
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Labeling the Indian media as Yellow Media will simply not change the ground reality - your stance is aking to ostriches buying their heads in the ground to avoid a coming storm.

Your stance is a classic case of living in denial - come out of your cave mentality. Everyone knows that they are multiple centres of power in Pakistan, some more powerful than the others, some draw their power from the law and the others from the brute force of the gun, the latter being the more successful of the lot. Forget the Indian media read some international news for a change and see what they have to say about Pakistan, such exposure wont exactly kill you.

I know it stings but the truth usually does.

Indians are the only ones who are living in denial not us. They have yet to accept the partition as a reality. By the way its only India that faces some kind of unknown problem when dealing with Pakistan no other country does. So i am not sure what you mean when you say "every one knows there are many power centers in Pakistan". If i am correct this is the term which is only used by India which imo is a simple divergence technique to somehow avoid negotiations with Pakistan which will of course include Kashmir.
 
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Indians are the only ones who are living in denial not us. They have yet to accept the partition as a reality. By the way its only India that faces some kind of unknown problem when dealing with Pakistan no other country does. So i am not sure what you mean when you say "every one knows there are many power centers in Pakistan". If i am correct this is the term which is only used by India which imo is a simple divergence technique to somehow avoid negotiations with Pakistan which will of course include Kashmir.

1. you are forgetting Afghanistan and quiet recently Iran - watch the news dude.

2. had you read my earlier post carefully you would have ceratinly got a hang of the term "multiple power centres" in the Pakistani context.

3. the usage of the term is just not limited to India anyone who is familiar with the power structure in Pakistan would know about the term and its meaning.
 
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1. you are forgetting Afghanistan and quiet recently Iran - watch the news dude.

2. had you read my earlier post carefully you would have ceratinly got a hang of the term "multiple power centres" in the Pakistani context.

3. the usage of the term is just not limited to India anyone who is familiar with the power structure in Pakistan would know about the term and its meaning.

Does Afghanistan fall into the definition of a country? Iran yes but they are not facing any problems dealing with Pakistan as according to you have multiple power centers. So please don't use the term context when you even yourself are not sure of what you are talking about and very conveniently used the word context.
 
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Does Afghanistan fall into the definition of a country? Iran yes but they are not facing any problems dealing with Pakistan as according to you have multiple power centers. So please don't use the term context when you even yourself are not sure of what you are talking about and very conveniently used the word context.

Afghanistan is an independent country my friend, the days of the Taliban are over. You clearly need to more reading. Last checked the president of Iran came down very hard on pakistan for the terror attack on the Revolutionary Guards Coomnders - he clearly said that the attackers came from Pakistan and blamed the Pakistani government for not doing enough and even indirectly accused the Pakistani govt of aiding them.

and to broden your horizon about multiple power centres - please do some reading and spare me the trouble of educating you.
 
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Afghanistan is an independent country my friend, the days of the Taliban are over. You clearly need to more reading.

I thinks its you that needs to more reading......taliban control the majority of the country.

Last checked the president of Iran came down very hard on pakistan for the terror attack on the Revolutionary Guards Coomnders - he clearly said that the attackers came from Pakistan and blamed the Pakistani government for not doing enough and even indirectly accused the Pakistani govt of aiding them.

A senior Iranian military official says the terrorist group Jundallah will receive a "crushing response" for its attack in southeastern Iran.

The Pakistan-based terror group has claimed responsibility for a bombing that killed at least 41 people, including a number of senior commanders of the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps, in Sistan-Baluchestan Province on Sunday.

"Iran will give a crushing response to Abdulmalek Rigi's terrorist group and its supporters soon," Brig. Gen. Yadollah Javani, the director of the Political Bureau of the IRGC, said on Tuesday.

"Terror groups, like Abdulmalek Rigi's, which carry out attacks in Iran are supported by foreign countries because they don't have any popular base in the country," the Mehr News Agency quoted Javani as saying.

"The [Jundallah] terror group is currently based in our friendly and brotherly country Pakistan and gets financial, intelligence, and political support from the West, especially from the US and the UK, and some countries in the [Middle East] region," the IRGC official stated.
'Jundallah will receive crushing response soon'

You dont call somebody your brother and friend if you hate them!.....the pakistanis and iranians know fully well that that the west is trying to get the two countrys to turn on each other by using terrorist outfits.
 
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The seed of separation was sowed by non other than the Quaid-a-Azam, Mr Jinnah. Blinded by his ‘2 nation’ joke of a theory, he forgot to take stock of Bengalis and their fierce cultural nationalism. Mr Jinnah’s speech at Dhaka University, where he expressed his desire to impose Urdu as the only national language, directly resulted in the Bhasha Andolon (language movement) in 1952. That was the first time, the Bengalis of East Pakistan realized, that Pakistan was all about the western ‘moth-eaten country’ (Mr Jinnah’s words, not mine), and for the first time experienced how brutal the ‘martial race’ could be to suppress a legitimate peaceful civil movement. No, India had no hand in it.

Two nation theory is not a joke AKHAND BHARAT is.See after independence you failed to recognize this truth that a part of AKHAND BHARAT is now a independent country,I have heared many Indians saying that Independence of Pakistan is a big tragedy so as of today when Pakistan exists its a testimony to it that the AKHAND BHARAT theory is clearly flawed and the Two Nation Theory Exists.By the way arent Srilanka Nepal and Afghanistan part of AKHAND BHARAT too:lol:.

BTW insulting Quaid-e-Azam is banable offense here.

As for language movement simillar happend in India too

In the 1950s and 1960s, linguistic issues in India caused civil disorder when the central government declared Hindi as the national language of India. The nationwide movement of linguistic groups seeking statehood resulted in a massive reorganisation of states according to linguistic boundaries in 1956. At that time, Indian Punjab had its capital in Shimla, and though the vast majority of the Sikhs lived in Punjab, they still did not form a majority. The Akali Dal, a Sikh dominated political party active mainly in Punjab, sought to create a Punjabi Suba, or a Punjabi-speaking state. This case was presented to the States Reorganisation Commission established in 1953. It is generally believed that many Punjabi-speaking Hindus declared Hindi as their mother tongue in the censuses of 1951 and 1961, and therefore the census figures did not support the case for a Punjabi speaking state. The demand for adoption of Punjabi for Punjabi-speaking areas first created and later intensified the rift between Hindus and Sikhs of Punjab.

The States Reorganization Commission, not recognizing Punjabi as a language that was distinct grammatically from Hindi, rejected the demand for a Punjabi suba or state. Another reason that the Commission gave in its report was that the movement lacked general support of the people inhabiting the region.[18] Many Sikhs felt discriminated against by the commission.
Khalistan movement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That was 1st strike.

The movement eventually fizzled out, although the sentiments were very much alive. Then in 1965, a tin pot dictator, Ayub Khan decided that he had balls the size of Jupiter and imposed an unnecessary war on India. The entire Pak juggernaut was concentrated in the West, and East was left, practically, unguarded. Had it not being for India’s concern over a possible Chinese intervention, which forced her to concentrate a large chunk of her troops in the North and North-East, or had she decided to risk the Chinese intervention and attack East Pakistan, IA would have practically walked right into Dhaka. Bengalis of East Pakistan, who had always considered themselves to be no less patriotic than their western counterparts, were finally convinced that Pakistan in reality belonged to the West, and East was just a ‘also-there’, to be milked when needed and thrown away when not. This led to the second wave of Bengali nationalism, which in turn led to the rise of Sk Mujibar Rahaman. And again, India had no hand in it.
That was 2nd strike.
Having less force in EastPakistan was indeed a mistake we should have more force there,however in the highlighted text you are saying that you feared china eh? hmm I think 1962 was quite horrible for you:lol:
rest is absolutely bullshit the operation Gibralter was quite a success had favoritism not came to this scenario and Ayub had not changed (Genral Akhter Hussain Malik who was about to reach Akhnor to cut IOK from India and then capture it)with Yahya Khan who delayed this offensive for 20 hours which was in its final Phase (Grandslam),and thus it allowed you to attack Lahore which was however which was fiercely defended moreover we gained territory in Run of Kuch so this war was'nt quite bad for us.


Apart from Grandslam the war was quite a success and Indias total attention was on west Pakistan to protect Kashmir the theory that you could attack East Pakistan and capture it and that this lead Nationalism in east Pakistan is just a cheap propaganda and Bullshit and if you'd done this you were sure to lose Kashmir its just a peace of crap.

All this culminated into Mujib's electoral win in 1970, by a large majority. But another tin pot dictator, Yahya Khan and his trusted sidekick, apparently in opposition and a clown of a politician, Bhutto, who would rather eat ‘grass’, simply dismissed Mujib’s victory, almost by a wave of hand. That was the 3rd & final strike and once again, India had no hand in it. This dismissal led to massive civil disobedience movement, to which the ‘martial race’ reacted in the only way known to it – brutal suppression, through Operation Searchlight. That and only that, led to massive migration to India.
Rants and Rants and BS :blah::blah: and if operation searchlight was suppression and not one to kill RAW trained mukti terrorists then same was done by India in Khalistan Movement,Nexalites tribals?




resultant refugee problem and finally, the direct military intervention by India.
This is why we now give great importance to your ill motives

First you train terrorists then send them to a Internationally recognized part of another country and

Then start a unsttopable propaganda against that country

Then finally attack it,then make some pathetic argument as reason for attack :sick:.You accuse us of genocide you did same in case of Sikhs and are doing in Occupied Kashmir reportedly 47,000 Kashmiries have been killed in your state terrorism and you balme us for genocide.Hell Indra Gandhi got what she deserved Death:angry:,for genocide of Sikhs and Kashmiries.
The claim that India should ‘apologize to Pakistan’ for 1971, is perhaps the joke of the century and doesn’t deserve any further comment.
Who claimed this?:what: we dont want an apology but something simillar happening to India:).
 
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Two nation theory is not a joke AKHAND BHARAT is.

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Who claimed this?:what: we dont want an apology but something simillar happening to India:).
Come back when you have something worthwhile to say.:wave:
 
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Why dont you post something worthwhile instead of trolling?:taz:
and if you continue Ranting and Trolling mods will surely take care of you.

Mods are well aware that this thread has been hijacked. And discussion is no more inline with thread subject.
India bashing started immediately after title post especially when the article is from neutral source.
 
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Mods are well aware that this thread has been hijacked. And discussion is no more inline with thread subject.
India bashing started immediately after title post especially when the article is from neutral source.
Oh India bashing give me a break!an Indian starts the thread to ridicule Pakistan and then when any Pakistani tries to point defend a horde of Indians come and start to bash Pakistan have'nt you read the thread and dont you know the number of Indians posted in this thread,they(Indians) bash they redicule and when a slight reply in this context is given to them they say that thread is hijacked and Indians are beeing bashed here,poor babies:cry:
Dont you see overwhelming numbers of Indian posts against Pakistan in this thread.Thank this forum's neutrality that you people are not banned like Pakistanis are banned in Bharat Rakshak.
 
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Aawww Fatman17, for a thinktank your comment above was really pathetic. Toxic_pus gave a detailed account of what triggered the '71 dismemberment and all you could muster up is call that a "rant"! Wow! For what you are worth, either debunk his post or accept what he's posted.
Well keep focusing on India all you want, while your country burns from within. We sure have had a checkered history with multiple conflicts, but, seriously Pakistan needs to set its priorities right, recognize who/what its real enemies are and come to terms with reality instead of hallucinating, fancying a quixotic ideal and living in a fool's paradise!

that is the pathetic reality! - who cares about his "version" of the 71 dismemberment and therefore a rant!
 
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