I would have heard it from anyone else but not from a Pakistani.
Our courts and constitution embodies the will of our nation, which made of Indian society.
If you have pointed out something wrong the way Indian posters are posting then quote them out and let us all see the context they are talking. There is no point making sweeping statements when your own nation is not backing you up, rather more deleterious on universal accepted notion of secularism.
Typical Pakistani reflecting the nation's urge to justify its existence everyday. Looks like the effort is getting more desperate by the day.
Typical Indian defensive trash throwing mentality, The notion I questioned has little to do with secularism, but rather the belief in secularism. But somehow we have tiny ego's(among other things) that we have to drag in Pakistan to defend ourselves..
The court has rejected this stupid petition.
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If you expect 'secularism' from individuals - who are religious people, then that means you dont know the meaning of 'secularism'.
Secularism by definition was intended only for courts and institutions.
Individuals are not mandated to be secular, anywhere.
I never said that they were not, but then.. you cannot claim to be a united population when you have issues respecting another's beliefs.
If we start entertaining such a cases, then it will be gross violation of secularism. Being an agnostic, I have right to call all religious scriptures as fairy tales. In secular constitution it's my individual right and nobody can force me to say that his religious scripture is correct.
It's responsibility of believer to prove me wrong in court with scientific and factual evidences.
Tomorrow any other Tom, Dick or Harry from other faith will file the case for same reason. It's well know fact that different religions exist today because people believe in their own scriptures while regarding others as fairy tales. Problem arises only when members from particular religion take offence when others call their scripture as fairy tale.
Members will take offense, it is their belief..
the same equivalent to me starting to refer to all Hindus as cow-cola drinkers.. It is directly tantamount to blind bigotry rather than disagreement on beliefs amicably. the majority of Indians have demonstrated the former.
A guy sits on the back of a computer keyboard some random miles away and comments on a billion people nation without even being there
you are representing those billion people, I am commenting on you.
Islamophobia is simply a pejorative neologism designed by apologists to warn people away from criticizing any aspect of Islam.
The litigation has already ended with the court throwing out the petition, I heard.
Or it is just the anti-Islam elements who leave stone unturned to throw ***** at a religion.. through organized and unorganized means.
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Oscar A super mod thinks this should be taken seriously. WOW!
Far from it.. I actually find the issue amusing.. since AB actually did not say anything wrong.
Wow...just wow! There is no hope anymore, the last two members who I would have expected to say stuff like this...
Read
fateh71's post .....
Almost all of us include
all fairy tales under this category, not just fairy tales of one particular religion...... I can't believe I'm actually seeing this stupid, frivolous case getting any support....that chap must taken to task by fellow believers for bringing Islam & Muslims to ridicule with his joke of a lawsuit.....
Agreed with the joke of the lawsuit.
Coming from you @
Oscar, that generalised statement is amusing.
Secularism means that every individual is free to hold his beliefs "
within his heart and his home". What his neighbor thinks "
within his heart and his home" is no business of his; like-wise what he thinks "
within his heart and his home" is no business of his neighbor.
Maybe you are unfamiliar with the very basis of Secularism.
Now that this plaint has been filed in a
Court of Law in Secular India; it will be heard, dealt with and disposed off.
Neither the Plaintiff nor the Respondent will be murdered; there will be no Taseer or Quadri.
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Oscar just track this case and see its outcome.
Again, you are contradicting yourself with the definition. If that defnition holds true @
KS and a whole bunch of other members would not be commenting and insulting my beliefs. Hence they are not representative of secularism nor are many Indian memberes here.
What a load of BS! You deleted my comment where I asked how was the person going to prove this
I still think that's a valid question. I don't believe it as words of God as I am unsure about the existence of God in first place. How am I at fault for that?
You are at fault for openly taking your beliefs and insulting those of those of others based on them.
As for the case, I will re-iterate.. I have little support for it. I find it just a publicity stunt.
Moreover, AB has said NOTHING wrong.. even if you go(and bother to instead of just being Islamophobic) and learn about Islam..is that the Prophet NEVER wrote the Quran.. He did not know how to read or write as is recorded...
He would recite it, and then some of his followers started taking it down on pieces of papyrus or other material.
The Quran in that case took over ten years to be "written" and more till it was finally compiled.