American attack aftermath: Pakistan declares attack a 'plot'

[Al Bhatti]

No, eastern side is a different case. Fighters are scrambled whenever any aircraft comes near LoC. Even inside country the SOPs are very complex, an uninformed flight of a PA/PAF/PN a/c over marked airspace is considered violation.

Maybe next time if there is another attack / intrusion it will be possible that the helis/ aircrafts are forced to land inside Pakistan and the pilot and crew are taken into captivity, but would'nt it be too late? Is their any clause within the agreement we have with the NATO/USA/ISAF that does'nt allow us to do commit this act?

Still it would have been very much possible that the helis were forced to land inside paksitan and the pilots+crew taken into custody and put on military trial for hte killing of our men and at the same the ambasador kicked out of Pakistan and NATO supply lines (in air or on land) closed for good.

But our govenrmnt is running only after Shamsi airbase which is ir-relevant to US. Pakistan is just using it as a scape goat and have so far only closed the Land supplies of NATO, .

Is ther any indicitaion that the NATO planes are not allowed to use Pakisani Air Space also to transit their Cargo?

UAE tried for 5 years to get more flights in Canada and when they saw they are not successfull they ordered the closure of Camp Mirage (the main camp for the Canadians in the region for their troops and military supply in Afghanistan) and implemented "prior Visa" before arriving to UAE for Canadians (earlier they were enjoying visa on arrival).

UAE is also involved in this War on Terror in a way or other but not on the magnitude of Pakistan but when they saw they failed to achive somethng for the national intrests they stood against the Canadians.

So in view of UAE's response to non-coperation in a civilian issue by the Canadians, what should have been the reply of Pakistan whose men (miitary and civilian) are being killed regularly by USA/NATO/ISAF while being an active member for a longer period in this war on Terror than UAE.

 

[Machoman]

Well, the fact is Pakistan doesn't have any friend except China..

Read this, our friend UAE got displeased over leak about Balochistan airstrip (Shamsi airbase)..UAE was upset over leak about Balochistan airstrip | Pakistan-Papers | DAWN.COM

Wah ji wah, Ulta choor kotwal ko dantay!

 

[pak-marine]

 

[Roybot]

Senior U.S. Officer to Investigate Airstrike in Pakistan

WASHINGTON — A senior American military official said on Monday that Gen. James N. Mattis, head of the military’s Central Command, would appoint a senior-ranking officer to lead an inquiry into the NATO airstrike the killed at least two dozen Pakistani soldiers over the weekend.

The inquiry will include a NATO representative and will examine what happened in the attack, which was operated out of Afghanistan, and how to avoid it from occurring again, the official said.

The coalition forces tried to contact the Pakistani military on the other side of the border. It is unclear whom they reached, but the coalition forces believed they were free to fire back, and the aircraft struck positions in Pakistan, according to diplomats.

The Pakistani government said 24 people had been killed, but accounts near the scene in the Mohmand tribal region said the toll was as high as 28.

 

[Al Bhatti]

Assalam alaikum

according to duniya news uae fm was asking to delay evacuating shamsi airbase
he met zardari and was told the decision is final according to duniya news sources

see how quick this guys comes in ?

TARIQ

Governent is running only after Shamsi airbase which is ir-relevant to US. Governemnt is just using it as a scape goat for silencing the public along with the closure of NATO Supplies by land temporarily.

They can still transit by air over Pakistan, or maybe not?

 

[happycanuck]

Well, the fact is Pakistan doesn't have any friend except China..

Read this, our friend UAE got displeased over leak about Balochistan airstrip (Shamsi airbase)..UAE was upset over leak about Balochistan airstrip | Pakistan-Papers | DAWN.COM

It is very rare to see or read a post by Pakistani national who calls "spade a spade". I have doubt about China's hidden agenda towards your country as well. Since your leadership Military and Civilians are engaged in selling off their own country behind the back of their citizens as per Dawn article. I would like to ask all the Pakistani on the forum, When are you going to rise up against the regime and take control of your nation? Any takers please write a detailed analysis on Pak-China friendship as well if you can.

 

[Jango]

Governent is running only after Shamsi airbase which is ir-relevant to US. Governemnt is just using it as a scape goat for silencing the public along with the closure of NATO Supplies by land temporarily.

They can still transit by air over Pakistan, or maybe not?

Air is very costly.

And BTW, you can see everyday USAF aircraft landing in Chaklala airbase.

 

[somebozo]

China 'deeply shocked' over NATO attack on Pakistani soldiers

China 'deeply shocked' over NATO attack on Pakistani soldiers - Arab News

By SUI-LEE WEE | REUTERS
Published: Nov 28, 2011 10:21 Updated: Nov 28, 2011 10:21

BEIJING: China’s Foreign Ministry said on Monday it was “deeply shocked” about a NATO cross-border air attack that killed 24 Pakistani soldiers and urged respect for Pakistan’s independence and sovereignty.

“China is deeply shocked by these events, and expresses strong concern for the victims and profound condolences to Pakistan,” Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei said in a statement on the ministry’s website.

“China believes that Pakistan’s independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity should be respected and the incident should be thoroughly investigated and be handled properly,” he said.

Pakistan has reacted with fury over the NATO cross-border air attack that could undermine the US effort to wind up the war in Afghanistan.

NATO described the killings as a “tragic unintended incident” and said an investigation was under way. A Western official and an Afghan security official who requested anonymity said NATO troops were responding to fire from across the border.

© 2010 Arab News

 

[Al Bhatti]

why the hell is UAE operating shamsi, which is supposed to be americunt drone operation

Shaikh Zayed got it as a gift, his son turned it into a small airport and post 2001 US got access to it for their drones and surely it was with the approval of pakistan. It is not possible that USA got access to the base withoput Pakistani leadership knowing about it and approving it as in those days War on Terror was in full swing.

Probably UAE wants to keep the base for itself for something else, for a time when that base would be very important I wish you undersand what i have in mind !

 

[Devil Soul]

Zardari rejects UAE request to review Shamsi airbase resolve
Updated 20 minutes ago

ISLAMABAD: President Asif Ali Zardari has refused a request by the United Arab Emirates to review Pakistan's decision of telling the US to vacate the Shamsi airbase within 15 days, Geo News reported.

According to sources, UAE's foreign minister met President Asif Ali Zardari on Monday and requested to review Pakistan's decision in regards to the Shamsi airbase.

President Zardari refused UAE's request and said that he could not change the decision of Defence Committee of the Cabinet, sources said.

At least 24 Pakistani soldiers embraced martyrdom and scores others sustained injured in NATO attack on a check posts near Afghan border on Saturday.

The Defence Committee of the Cabinet had decided to close NATO supply lines in Afghanistan with immediate effect and ordered the US to vacate the Shamsi Airbase within 15 days.

 

[patna_ke_presley]

Anyway, what will be China strategy because China don't want abrupt American withdrawal from Afghanistan as it feared more about training bases ETIM. Also, will China boycott Bonn conference.

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China 'deeply shocked' over NATO attack on Pakistani soldiers

China 'deeply shocked' over NATO attack on Pakistani soldiers - Arab News

By SUI-LEE WEE | REUTERS
Published: Nov 28, 2011 10:21 Updated: Nov 28, 2011 10:21

BEIJING: China’s Foreign Ministry said on Monday it was “deeply shocked” about a NATO cross-border air attack that killed 24 Pakistani soldiers and urged respect for Pakistan’s independence and sovereignty.

“China is deeply shocked by these events, and expresses strong concern for the victims and profound condolences to Pakistan,” Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei said in a statement on the ministry’s website.

“China believes that Pakistan’s independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity should be respected and the incident should be thoroughly investigated and be handled properly,” he said.

Pakistan has reacted with fury over the NATO cross-border air attack that could undermine the US effort to wind up the war in Afghanistan.

NATO described the killings as a “tragic unintended incident” and said an investigation was under way. A Western official and an Afghan security official who requested anonymity said NATO troops were responding to fire from across the border.

© 2010 Arab News

It seems more condolence towards Pakistan than criticizing NATO.

 

[HellzHere]

China's reaction is very soft..when you rewind back and see this:
Attack on Pakistan will be attack on China | Pakistan China Friendship

 

[Al Bhatti]

SPRITE KUCH KER DIKHANE KE PYAS HAI

And see what part of the efigy is burning

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Pakistan seals border in response to NATO attack

Pakistan seals border in response to NATO attack — RT

Wasn't this done before also?

 

[Emmie]

It is very rare to see or read a post by Pakistani national who calls "spade a spade". I have doubt about China's hidden agenda towards your country as well. Since your leadership Military and Civilians are engaged in selling off their own country behind the back of their citizens as per Dawn article. I would like to ask all the Pakistani on the forum, When are you going to rise up against the regime and take control of your nation? Any takers please write a detailed analysis on Pak-China friendship as well if you can.

There are numerous threads on PDF pertaining Sino-Pak relations. Please spend some time reading them you'll get detailed analysis there. For now please stick to the topic.

 

[HANI]