American attack aftermath: Pakistan declares attack a 'plot'

[President Camacho]

you commented without reading the news...
the need of retraining was due to the coplaints from afghan government that NATO troops fail to save civilians in their operations and preventable loss of life is not being stopped..
isnt this the first lesson for any person who is given a gun that they should know how to differentiate between avtarget and a non target....an agressir and a passer by and should have control on their nerves to stop being trigger happy.
none of these basic qualities have been shown by NATO and ISAF troops..and that means they are severely undertrained.
the receny attack on pakistani checkpost is by NATOs own admission a result of their troops failing to identify the real target...or just got angry and shot dead 28 ally soldiers.
such a monumental incompetance us unheard of and even more dangerous when we consider that these unreliable untrained men/women have some of the most sophisticated and most lethal weapons in the world.
that way they are dangerous and should be kept away .
such people who cant read maps and cant identify a well established wrll marked military check.post should not be given even firecrackers and shouldnt be allowed near guns..
if NATO is sending such incompetent soldiers to wars...they are a threat to world peace.
not being racist here but only one picture comes to my mind .

I actually read it all before replying to your post.

The retraining was decided because Hamid Karzai often complained about civilian casualties (rightly so). It in no way means the troops were "untrained/undertrained", as you pointed out in your post.

The term retraining in itself states that the troops were trained but now need to be trained again, hence the "re" part.

I know you are not being racist, and I hope you understand too that I am not defending their actions against civilians that have many times ended in deplorable consequences.

However, you are pointing your allegations at the entire NATO, and wrongly accusing them of sending 'untrained' troops in the field. What else should you expect to be my reply when I see you have inserted your own, unrelated terms in there?

And that's a pretty funny pic, nothing racist about it lol

 

[Hulk]

From so far what is present in public, it appears that NATO is on wrong side, but I am unable to digest why they will attack like told. I am strong supporter of US because I work here and want to have loyalties right. But still Pakistan's story is stronger.

 

[waz]

Pakistan's role in Afghanistan is overplayed and over-hyped to start with. Its actually better for Afghanistan that Pakistan stays out of the country and more progressive and modern nations move in to initiate growth and development. The only factor that plays in favor of Pakistan is its geographical proximity to Afghanistan but that does not make Pakistan the most important player in the country's future. Countries with a strong economy and international reach such as US, India and China are far more crucial for Afghanistan. Again boycotting these talks show Pakistan's immaturity in handling diplomatic relations. Infact showing up at these talking voicing your point of view would have been much better for Pakistan.

Yes the country that shares a major geographical boundary with Afghanistan, has millions of its citizens retain close blood and cultural ties with Afghanistan, is host to the second largest population of Afghans on the planet, has influence over the most powerful rebel factions operating in Afghanistan, is central for the transport of trade and other essential items to Afghanistan, it's role is overplayed?

Unbelievable......Well the Afghans don't share any of your sentient,their leader Karzai is anxious about the whole thing.

 

[mr42O]

Nato attacked Pakistanies in hope of Pakistan will answer back. Americans will find a reason to attack Pakistan as it cant do as today. When i mean attack i mean full scaled war in Waziristan etc.

Why Pakistani airforce wasnt sent in is because lets say full scale war is started Pakistani air force fuel which is blocked by Americans ships in arabian sea. If i am not wrong Pakistan cant get from Iran either. So in other words we are surrounded by enemy who want us to answer.

What i read in Indian newspapir India is fully prepared with isrealies to take out Pakistani defence and take out our nukes. Indian Isrealie lobby is working to get rid of our nukes before USA leave Afghanistan. They think they will never get this chance again.

Thats reason Pakistan did not completly cut of ties with Afgan taliban.IF they have any connection at all. I fully understand them now.

 

[mr42O]

India won't allow that

lol hahaha. India ke bap ka mhal he ?

 

[The HBS Guy]

How insightful!

 

[hunter_hunted]

Yes the country that shares a major geographical boundary with Afghanistan, has millions of its citizens retain close blood and cultural ties with Afghanistan, is host to the second largest population of Afghans on the planet, has influence over the most powerful rebel factions operating in Afghanistan, is central for the transport of trade and other essential items to Afghanistan, it's role is overplayed?

Unbelievable......Well the Afghans don't share any of your sentient,their leader Karzai is anxious about the whole thing.

Brother just ignore his statement, after all he is Indian. Yesterday their master was soviet union and today its America tomorrow who knows, may b they don't even exist.

 

[mr42O]

How insightful!

did any one asked u ? not welcome here go to momy daddy

 

[Omar1984]

OIC, Russia, China put weight behind Pakistan


BEIJING (Agencies) – Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC), China and Russia rallied behind Pakistan expressed “deep shock” over Nato airstrikes that left 24 Pakistani soldiers dead and called for an investigation into the incident.

“China is deeply shocked at the incident and expresses strong concerns and deep condolences to the victims in Pakistan,” foreign ministry spokesman Hong Lei told a regular news briefing. “China believes that Pakistan’s independent sovereignty and territory should be respected and that this incident should be earnestly investigated and handled in a serious manner.”

While conveying its heartfelt condolences to the bereaved families and the government of Pakistan, OIC Secretary General Professor Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu said the attacks are indeed serious violation of Pakistan’s sovereignty and are totally unacceptable, an OIC statement said on its website. Ihsanoglu assured Pakistan of the continued solidarity of the OIC and expressed his expectation for the prevention of any recurrence of such incidents. The Secretary General then urged Nato to avoid any action that could further complicate the already dire security situation in the region, the statement said. Russia also called for a ‘meticulous’ investigation into a Nato raid in Pakistan that killed 24 soldiers, calling strikes that violate state sovereignty unacceptable.

“Leaders of Nato in Afghanistan should carry out a meticulous investigation into this incident,” Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov told his Pakistani counterpart Hina Rabbani Khar in a telephone call. “Violations of state sovereignty, including in the cases of planning and carrying out anti-terrorist operations, are unacceptable,” he said, according to a statement from his office.




OIC, Russia, China put weight behind Pakistan | Pakistan | News | Newspaper | Daily | English | Online

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China backs Pakistan's efforts in safeguarding independence, sovereignty, territorial integrity: FM


BEIJING, Nov. 28 (Xinhua) -- Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi said Monday that China will consistently support Pakistan's efforts in safeguarding national independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity.

Yang made the remarks in a phone call with Pakistani Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar concerning NATO bombing on two Pakistani border posts in a northwest tribal area bordering Afghanistan early Saturday morning.

Twenty-four Pakistani soldiers were killed and 13 others injured in the NATO action.

Yang said China was deeply shocked by the incident, noting that all countries and international organizations should earnestly respect Pakistan's independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity.

He also called for a thorough investigation of the incident.

The two ministers also exchanged views on China-Pakistan relations and issues of common concern.


China backs Pakistan's efforts in safeguarding independence, sovereignty, territorial integrity: FM

 

[Bhairava]

NATO kills 28 soldiers on Pak-Afghan border and the blame is on RAW-Mossad.

Well done. Pakistan will never improve.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

the same rebels which NATOs have been begging Pakistanis to bring to negotiating table

ultimately -the biggest stake-holder and biggest game-changer can only be Afghans themself....however, for reasons stated above --- it is already established why Pakistan SHOULD and DOES have more say in these matters.

we see some of these arrogant indians (most who dont even know the history or realities in Afghanistan) with their attitude that they can bring miracles to Afghanistan with their tidbit role -- a country with whom they dont even share a border and a country in which indian have also supported warlord factions.....

the duplicity and double standards and hypocrisy are entertaining at best

 

[mr42O]

NATO kills 28 soldiers on Pak-Afghan border and the blame is on RAW-Mossad.

Well done. Pakistan will never improve.

lol were did i said raw ????? first of all no indian are welcome here with there stupid comments.

and about Indian and Isrealies want america attack Pakistan before leaving Afghanistan is reported by ur own newspapir....

 

[The HBS Guy]

did any one asked u ? not welcome here go to momy daddy

Why so serious?

I only congratulated you on your scholarly insight.

 

[Omar1984]

No excuse to violate Pakistan sovereignty: Russia

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov. — File Photo by AFP


MOSCOW: Russia’s foreign minister, commenting on the Nato cross-border air attack that killed 24 Pakistani soldiers, said on Monday that a nation’s sovereignty should always be upheld, even when hunting “terrorists”.

“The Russian Foreign Minister… emphasised the unacceptability of violating the sovereignty of states, including during the planning and carrying out of counter-terrorist operations,” the ministry said in a statement.


No excuse to violate Pakistan sovereignty: Russia | World | DAWN.COM

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Foreign Minister Khar briefs Russian counterpart on NATO/ISAF attack, DCC decisions

ISLAMABAD, Nov 28 (APP): Foreign Minister Ms Hina Rabbani Khar spoke to Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov on Monday evening and briefed him on the unprovoked NATO/ISAF attack on Pakistani territory and the decisions taken by the Defence Committee of the Cabinet.

She underscored that besides being a gross violation of established international norms, such attacks pose a threat to regional peace and stability as well.
The Russian Foreign Minister expressed sympathy for the loss of lives and injury, as well as complete understanding of Pakistan’s position, according to a press release issued by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs here.
The Russian Foreign Minister underscored that Pakistan and Russia were partners in the Shanghai Cooperation Organization and also partners in promoting regional cooperation. He stressed on the need of NATO thoroughly investigating the incident.

Associated Press Of Pakistan ( Pakistan's Premier NEWS Agency ) - Foreign Minister Khar briefs Russian counterpart on NATO/ISAF attack, DCC decisions

 

[Karachiite]

Yes the country that shares a major geographical boundary with Afghanistan, has millions of its citizens retain close blood and cultural ties with Afghanistan, is host to the second largest population of Afghans on the planet, has influence over the most powerful rebel factions operating in Afghanistan, is central for the transport of trade and other essential items to Afghanistan, it's role is overplayed?

Unbelievable......Well the Afghans don't share any of your sentient,their leader Karzai is anxious about the whole thing.

Chah gaye!!!!!!!!