American attack aftermath: Pakistan declares attack a 'plot'

[livingdead]

So you ignore the BBC reports, & all the reports from all reputable sources that say the posts were 1.5 miles from the border. You choose to accept Mr Abbas's alleged statement in this case, but you don't accept his claim when he says that the attack of the NATO Forces on the Pakistan soldiers was an unprovoked act of aggression. You can't cherry pick like this. If you agree with one of the claims by your source, you have to agree with all of them. Did Major Abbas measure the distance himself?

And btw, I am still waiting for you to quote a reliable Pakistani source that says Major Abbas said that. The US media is known for fabrications & prejudice against Pakistan, as was seen in the RD case.

A pakistani source. I dont trust anything other than Dawn, dont know about you.
"......The DG ISPR said the attack took place within 200-300 meters within Pakistan’s borders, adding the area had been cleared of militants. He said investigations were still going on about the two posts namely Volcano and Golden made beyond Salala....."
Nato attack can have grave consequences: DG ISPR

 

[Developereo]

This looks like a deliberate setup by the Afghans. The Afghan 'intelligence' sources are notoriously unprofessional; there have been cases where Afghan civilians were gunned down by NATO and it turned out the Afghan 'intelligence' was just settling scores.

This does not exonerate NATO in any way; they are the ones who pulled the trigger.

As far as Pakistan is concerned, we should close the supply routes PERMANENTLY and let NATO and the Afghans sort out the blame between themselves.

 

[iPhone]

This looks like a deliberate setup by the Afghans. The Afghan 'intelligence' sources are notoriously unprofessional; there have been cases where Afghan civilians were gunned down by NATO and it turned out the Afghan 'intelligence' was just settling scores.

This does not exonerate NATO in any way; they are the ones who pulled the trigger.

As far as Pakistan is concerned, we should close the supply routes PERMANENTLY and let NATO and the Afghans sort out the blame between themselves.

and we should pursue a legal case against NATO.

 

[Bhairava]

The above two are perfect examples of 'speculation'.

While both of you continue to insist that opinions be reserved till 'final report is released' (BTW, Pakistan's 'final report' has been made clear by the DG ISPR), you have no problems confidently predicting that whatever this 'final report' will be, it will contradict the Pakistani position and somehow be magically true.

Yet again hypocrisy and circular arguments.

Yeah true. It does come under speculation. Just how the past events shaped up prejudiced by thinking. This, ofcourse, can be entirely different.

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I noticed the confusion of 300m and 2.5km in differing reports, this may be due to confusion over the distance the posts were appart 300m and the distance from the border 2.5km?

I guess its the other way around. 300 m from the border and 2.5 km apart.

 

[manojb]

This looks like a deliberate setup by the Afghans. The Afghan 'intelligence' sources are notoriously unprofessional; there have been cases where Afghan civilians were gunned down by NATO and it turned out the Afghan 'intelligence' was just settling scores.

This does not exonerate NATO in any way; they are the ones who pulled the trigger.

As far as Pakistan is concerned, we should close the supply routes PERMANENTLY and let NATO and the Afghans sort out the blame between themselves.

i thought same, only difference i replaced afgans with Talibans.
Who will be most benefiting from closing of NATO supplies ?

 

[Bhairava]

'Retraction' would be to accept that:

1. Pakistani forces did indeed fire on NATO troops
2. Pakistan did not try and contact NATO after the attack started
3. Pakistani soldiers did not die in the attack, or far fewer than 24 died.

Accepting this was a case of friendly fire and not "deliberate" would also amount to retracting.

 

[livingdead]

This looks like a deliberate setup by the Afghans. The Afghan 'intelligence' sources are notoriously unprofessional; there have been cases where Afghan civilians were gunned down by NATO and it turned out the Afghan 'intelligence' was just settling scores.

This does not exonerate NATO in any way; they are the ones who pulled the trigger.

As far as Pakistan is concerned, we should close the supply routes PERMANENTLY and let NATO and the Afghans sort out the blame between themselves.

The attack went on for an hour. They did not stop even when told by pakistanis.
The pakistani soldiers responded to the attack. - Athar Abbas
General Athar Abbas, Pakistan military Spokesman - FRANCE 24

 

[Major Sam]

Grievous as those losses are, they pale in comparison to an out and war: millions dead and displaced.

so u r waiting for the time when these increase to a million?

 

[iPhone]

what about thousands of other non military orphans, who will probably never even receive the allownces and compensation etc??? these guys are paid and insured to give up their live, its their job

in civilian case, the families are literally destroyed because they had their properties/homes destroyed, and in this case the military will shower this orphan will life time allowances that its not even a big deal

you really are a punk aren't you. the entire nation has grieved and mourned the thousands of civilians deaths and ophaned children just as they are mourning the soldiers, except for you and the hanful of logical ones who thanked you for this ill mannered post.

what does a Pakistani soldier make anyway? what benefit does PA provide to the family that they can live a lavish life? what lavish lifesytle is this baby going to be showered with by the army? what is the future of this baby and the young widow?

In case of civilians, they got state compensation, too. but why are you making everything about money? is money worth the loss of dear ones? what is wrong with you man and those who are thanking you. koi insaniyat hai tum logon mein? do you feel anything?

 

[T-Rex]

too much fodder here for Vcheng to troll at will, you are lucky the way you are sitting as some bharati in america and operating under pakistani flag

We can see how worried you are for NATO and the US!

 

[karan.1970]

Do you believe in the same source claiming that the NATO's attack on Pakistani troops was an act of unprovoked aggression?

There is not enough information available to ascertain that. On the other hand, the statement about the distance from border does not require any judgement on the part of ISPR and hence can be taken on face value. For the other part, there needs to be corroboration from USA/NATO side, which is still awaited..

 

[Bhairava]

@ bilalhaider, Agnostic Muslim.

Watch this video at 1:45.

Now it becomes clear that the Pakistani soldiers were not killed in sleep but they were retaliating to the NATO attack.

Yet another 'modification' from the original account.

http://www.france24.com/en/20111128-interview-general-athar-abbas-spokesman-for-pakistan-military-nato-strikes-killed-soldiers-afghanistan-terrorism

 

[Zarvan]

@ bilalhaider, Agnistic Muslim.

Watch this video at 1:45.

Now it becomes clear that the Pakistani soldiers were not killed in sleep but they were retaliating to the NATO attack.

One more 'modification'.

General Athar Abbas, Pakistan military Spokesman - FRANCE 24

Sir what the hell do you expect if some one is firing on you and you also have weapons and you are sitting in your home to defend it what will you do sir they had to fire back and they should fire back when ever this happens again and next time the should fire and make sure that it is NATO who pay the price

 

[VelocuR]

About Pakistan soliders checkposts:


“This was a visible, well-made post, on top of ridges, made of concrete. Militants don’t operate from mountaintops, from concrete structures.”

bastard NATO.

 

[Bhairava]

Sir what the hell do you expect if some one is firing on you and you also have weapons and you are sitting in your home to defend it what will you do sir they had to fire back and they should fire back when ever this happens again and next time the should fire and make sure that it is NATO who pay the price

No man I'm not faulting the fallen. They did what any soldier worth his salt will do. Fight till the last breath. My respects for that.

I was just saying how yesterday it was claimed that the soldiers were killed in their sleep. Now it is clear that they were not killed in their sleep, but rather there was gunfire from both sides.