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500...US is major oil consumer. Without US oil prices drop.
US is major trade partner of EU and China. Without US EU and China will be in deep crisis, their oil consumption will drop and oil prices collapse even further.
Without oil money Arabs are nothing.


Add israel to the nothing list without US israel is nothing..

There is a cycle a stabilization always takes place. Look at Iranian sanctions, libyan conflict, iraqi war and yet the markets were/are stable to the extend. After US collapse a couple of years would be tough then all will be back to normal. Other economies are not sitting idle they're doing their best to come up with strategies I'm sure world is ready for US collapse, frankly they are all fed up of US bad economy for the 2.5 years.

When you look at the depression in the last 2 years the most effects countries are West while Asian and South Americans did not have the so called predicted collapse market thus I have a strongly believe Asia/Gulf/South American economies will sustain strongly even after US's collapse.

PS. consumption will not drop many smaller nations who previously couldn't afford high oil prices would be able to afford ths the price will stabilized to a point where these nations will become biggest consumers Check Mate!.

PS. nobody is rejoicing at US collapse, US has to act as a responsible state.
 
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Wow I didn't know that great update.

Even 200 years back, It was same if you are aware of History. Texas was once part of Mexico. Even US was under Spain and UK for centuries. It's history and nothing more.

Even Check Russia Map, There are many pockets of Soviet Union countries population even today. There is difference between small immigrant population and those who living there since long time.

These people living there since very long. Mexicans in US are Americans and want to live in US only. Why the hell they will think to make mexico ? when they got better life in US ? Will you say Pashtuns belongs to Afghanistan or Baloch belongs to Iran just because their ancestral root touches Iran ? That is some century old relation. That's it. Nothing more !!
 
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It is funny that people are envisioning disintegration and collapse of US because S&P downgraded US rating by one notch lower?

Even now US is one of the freest societies on this earth, where most of the best universities are present, where most of the brightest people on this planet work, where some of the world’s best companies have their bases and much more.

No country will match US at least in near future
 
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The United States, 1821

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These Mexicans are living for more than 200 years. That was under Spain which gave land to USA. Many went to US from Mexico for work. US was under Spain and UK...But later once US got it's independence it slowly bought those lands. Indeed, Texas was Mountain ranges and not part of Mexico. US also purchased Alaska from Russia 150 years back i think without any war. It was permanent deal based on Money and mutual relation.
 
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Even 200 years back, It was same if you are aware of History. Texas was once part of Mexico. Even US was under Spain and UK for centuries. It's history and nothing more.
Even Check Russia Map, There are many pockets of Soviet Union countries population even today. There is difference between small immigrant population and those who living there since long time.
These people living there since very long. Mexicans in US are Americans and want to live in US only. Why the hell they will think to make mexico ? when they got better life in US ? Will you say Pashtuns belongs to Afghanistan or Baloch belongs to Iran just because their ancestral root touches Iran ? That is some century old relation. That's it. Nothing more !!

No our ancestral don't touch anything we're within our boundaries for centuries.
You are mixing up history, Texas was part of Mexico after the settlement of americans in Mexico all the crap started exactly what bitish have done in south east asia. So yeah I agree Mexicans living in Texas are for a long time therefore it is time they rise up and declare independence.
 
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Hate to break it to everyone who's hoping or even praying for this, but the U.S. of A is here to stay. Even in economic terms, it's not going to collapse anytime soon. And when it's economic clout does noticeably decrease OVERTIME, the US is gifted with enough natural resources and enough skilled workers to climb on back up the rung to being one of the premier world powers again. It won't go the way of Spain and the UK, and if it does, it won't stay there for long. Prime example: Russia after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Imagine that, just better. The American government is a lot smarter than they let on, don't get it twisted. lol
Honestly, I'm no hard-core American patriot, but in terms of being gifted as a nation and what it encompasses, America is truly loved by the heavens. Now if only the people were smarter as a whole...:whistle: lol
 
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Even now US is one of the freest societies on this earth, where most of the best universities are present, where most of the brightest people on this planet work, where some of the world’s best companies have their bases and much more.
No country will match US at least in near future

Wrong, US is no God.

No one is making fun and everyone agree about science and technology and universities and so on..
The negative part is despite all these fields US went into depression twice in two years. There is something wrong it reflects US bad policies.
Now imagine a nation that is in debt to China a total of 1 trillion dollars who and how is US going to repay it since there are no good guarantee US economy will stabilized to the extend. World Bank has already forcast and explained to the US government that it will take a long time to pay off US debt with right economic policies which are far from reality.

US needs to end many useless military projects known and hidden, return of forces from Japan, South Korea and Gulf. Absolutely no need for military weapons expansions like 2400 JSFs a waste of money. Every person with common sense knows what are the areas where expenditure needs to be decreased cut down to improve economy.
 
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No our ancestral don't touch anything we're within our boundaries for centuries.
You are mixing up history, Texas was part of Mexico after the settlement of americans in Mexico all the crap started exactly what bitish have done in south east asia. So yeah I agree Mexicans living in Texas are for a long time therefore it is time they rise up and declare independence.

Nobodies declaring independence, sorry. Even the Mexicans here, legal or illegal, don't want the southeastern states to go back to Mexico. They love Mexico, but they love the American opportunities more. Reason they hopped the border in the first place. And that's not me joking, either..
 
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No our ancestral don't touch anything we're within our boundaries for centuries.
You are mixing up history, Texas was part of Mexico after the settlement of americans in Mexico all the crap started exactly what bitish have done in south east asia. So yeah I agree Mexicans living in Texas are for a long time therefore it is time they rise up and declare independence.

That's wierd, I live in El Paso and the hispanic population here are proud of their roots, but complain about immigration from southern Mexicans! (they have a deep north-south divide.)

Besides, many would welcome a merger of all North American states (we practically are anyways) All the loser countries that try to wish us away would be in trouble then! Just keep clicking your heels and wishing ya'll! Maybe it will make the pain of not being American slowly fade.:agree:
 
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No our ancestral don't touch anything we're within our boundaries for centuries.
You are mixing up history, Texas was part of Mexico after the settlement of americans in Mexico all the crap started exactly what bitish have done in south east asia. So yeah I agree Mexicans living in Texas are for a long time therefore it is time they rise up and declare independence.

Not exactly. Texas was not the part of Mexico. It was more like independent mountain ranges. Many Mexicans were living there since 400 years due to close to Mexico. but it's like Mexicans were living in another country. Texas was not part of US either at that time. Then those areas moved to many empire/country as per time.

Republic of Texas

Timeline

French Texas (1684–1689)
Spanish Texas (1690–1821)
Mexican Texas (1821–1836)
Republic of Texas (1836–1845)
Statehood (1845–1860)
Civil War Era (1861–1865)
Reconstruction and Gilded Age (1865–1899)
State of Texas
Then Finally Texas Annexation to USA.

Anyway, Mexicans are working class in US and doesn't control US. Mexicans are more than happy with US.
 
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if the US collapses, the world will go into a depression not seen since the 1930's. Much of the growth in Asia is because of investments by US based companies, if they go, so does Asia.
 
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Nobodies declaring independence, sorry. Even the Mexicans here, legal or illegal, don't want the southeastern states to go back to Mexico. They love Mexico, but they love the American opportunities more. Reason they hopped the border in the first place. And that's not me joking, either..

Buwahwah what opportunities oh opportunities at this time with high rate of unemployment in US.
 
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Inshallah Inshallah America will Collapse :cheers::chilli:
 
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That's wierd, I live in El Paso and the hispanic population here are proud of their roots, but complain about immigration from southern Mexicans! (they have a deep north-south divide.)

Besides, many would welcome a merger of all North American states (we practically are anyways) All the loser countries that try to wish us away would be in trouble then! Just keep clicking your heels and wishing ya'll! Maybe it will make the pain of not being American slowly fade.:agree:

Time will tell brotha US now is at the mercy of China, World Bank, IMF begging, not a nice situation to be in.
 
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Pakistan, several seperatist movements, half the nation wanted out, default several times...still there. China...occupied, civil wars, famine so bad people ate each other, colonised...still there....The US is not even close to going away. Those that live here know it. Life is not much different than ever, hardly social unrest. For most the several wars arew academic, as they have little real effect on life unless you have family there.
 
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