Ambassador steven was raped before murder

[shuttler]

” ‘The U.S. ambassador to Libya was raped sexually before killing by gunmen who stormed the embassy building in Benghazi last night to protest against the film is offensive to the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).’

The vid shown on TV and the doctor who tried to rescue the american indicated he was suffocated to death, not gunned down!

 

[third eye]

Eye for an eye.

A silly response to a despicable act , if at all this is true.

 

[shuttler]

At the height of the 9/11 anniversary, the film was released which aggravates the anti-american sentiments all across the world to a new level!

 

[shuttler]

I cant locate the vid which showed the graphic death of the ambassador and the doctor but this confims what was the cause for the american's death:

U.S. Ambassador Killed in Libya - NationalJournal.com

Later on Wednesday, Obama administration officials told the New York Times they believed the attack did not spontaneously spin out from protests, but had been planned ahead of time. Militants holding machine guns and rocket propelled grenades raided the embassy at night, as shown by a Reuters video, setting fire to the compound and eventually killing four personnel. Stevens died of suffocation, while the three other personnel were killed by gunshot wounds, CBS News reports.

 

[W.11]

Wonder why all these terrorists happen to be a opportunistic homosexual rapists? Weird.

you ask the NATO and american terrorists who gave birth to them perhaps??

 

[pakistanitarzan]

I encourage everyone to do heavy squats. So if you end up in a fuccked up situation, your glute muscles will be strong enough to block any foreign invation and i am not trolling, I am serious! This science will work all the time! Whether you are in prison or whether you are in a messedup crowd!

 

[Awesome]

Why would somebody out this info that he was raped only to give some sort of sick satisfaction to his killer(s)?

Investigators and media should show some restraint. Its just common sense.

 

[Awesome]

I encourage everyone to do heavy squats. So if you end up in a fuccked up situation, your glute muscles will be strong enough to block any foreign invation and i am not trolling, I am serious! This science will work all the time! Whether you are in prison or whether you are in a messedup crowd!

This is extremely silly and inappropriate if meant as a joke.

I encourage everyone to try not to be in such a situation or be in a messed up crowd. Also it won't work once you've been knocked unconcious or perhaps even otherwise.

 

[KRAIT]

Why would somebody out this info that he was raped only to give some sort of sick satisfaction to his killer(s)?

Investigators and media should show some restraint. Its just common sense.

You are asking something that isn't followed in this time. Its a sensational news, good for business.

 

[A.Rafay]

he was a Guy. How was he Raped Then? RIP The raped Ambasador

 

[SQ8]

Is this true????

Nope.. misquoted and misinterpreted.. as usual in most copy paste sources.
Also.. what you have quoted is somebody's combination of sections of both Quran and Hadiath(word of prophet)

First.. this section has been taken from Surah(chapter) Taubah..and its verse number 29.
This Surah was revealed when the Prophet had ordered an expedition to engage the Byzantine empire... So this Ayah was revealed with the condition of ongoing war(against non-Muslims, emphasis on the people of the book Christians/jews) in mind and is a guideline what to do in that situation.

while you may not be able to read the Arabic.. I am uploading this to show you what and where I am basing my argument on.

The verse approx reads
"Qatiloo allatheena la yu/minoona biAllahi wala bialyawmi al-akhiri wala yuharrimoona ma harrama Allahu warasooluhu wala yadeenoona deena alhaqqi mina allatheena ootoo alkitaba hatta yuAAtoo aljizyata AAan yadin wahum saghiroona"

A translation of this is
"(O muslims) fight against those that do not believe in god or the day of judgement, and those that do not consider forbidden what god and his prophet have forbidden.(fight against) Those that do not accept the true religion or embrace it from the people of the book(Christians and Jews) ; until they agree to pay Jizya and surrender and submit to the Muslims"

The first confusion is what is Jizyah..
Jizyah is not a "protection money" or tax specific to Dhimmis(non-Muslims) as wrongly interpreted.
Jizyah is war-tax. .. war-bonds.. etc
It is applicable to both Muslims and Non-Muslims alike in an Islamic state WHEN THE STATE GOES TO WAR...NOT OTHERWISE
You may collect Jizyah by calling it war-bonds.. war-fund contribution whatever.
But in the simplest of terms.. it is the tax all those who do not fight in the armed forces pay to fund the armed forces during the time of war.. simple. Not a new concept.. nothing alien.. nothing that is not practised today as well under different names by different nations.

so for eg.. if a Non-Muslim in an Islamic state in peace is making a living and contributing to the Bait-ul-Maal(government treasury) through tax .. or even not.. there is NO Jizyah on them(although currently in all Islamic countries there is tax on all citizens of which a portion goes to the military).
But in a state of conflict.. if that a non-muslim is not participating in the war(by choice or not recruited) then they are required to pay the war-fund(Jizyah) along with all other non-combatant citizens of the state(Muslim & non-Muslim)

Now, as for the "humiliation and disgrace etc" part.. As I have said earlier.. this verse war revealed during the time of war against non-Muslims(specifically Christians(Byzantine empire)). Now going by the history of all wars.. the defeated side is almost always disgraced and humiliated .. and this is not something to be hurled as accusation against the Prophet.
After all.. was it not that when 90000 troops surrendered to the Indian Armed forces that Pakistanis were humiliated and disgraced.
Was it not when India was forced into a setback in 62 against China that it felt humiliated and disgraced?
Was it not when Germany lost WWI that it felt humiliated and disgraced.

I see no logic in that angry face for that.. or finding fault in Islam because of that.

the logic of using this verse to desecrate, mutilate a body is absolutely IDIOTIC...
At no point did the Prophet EVER encourage such to occur...
If any Muslim engages in desecrating or mutilation a body(provided similar mutilation of Muslims ha occurred at the hands of the enemy) it is by his own need for revenge and not by either divine revelation or the example of the prophet. Moreover, it is encouraged through a revealed verse

"Wa-in AAaqabtum faAAaqiboo bimithli ma AAooqibtum bihi wala-in sabartum lahuwa khayrun lilssabireena"

translated as
"If ye punish, then punish with the like of that wherewith ye were afflicted. But if ye endure patiently, verily it is better for the patient."

This verse was revealed at the Battle of Uhud.. after Muslims found many of their martyred mutilated by Non-Muslims.. and many were understandably furious and wanted to do the same to the Non-Muslim dead. That is the extent of the word on revenge(mutilation, attacks) in the Quran.

there are many copy paste sources for Islam on the internet which are entirely wrong and incorrect.. that mislead both Muslims and those curious about Islam.
If there are any further discussions/queries you wish.. please use the PM or visitor wall.
This thread should not shift to a religious discussion.

 

[Awesome]

I skimmed through the movie. Its really not even a movie, its just idiotic. Anybody with a camcorder can make this in 1 day and just rant on abusively against the Prophet...

Its really, reaaaaaaally not worth the chaos and protest in our own countries. If anything needs to be done is politely write to Youtube to have it removed and if they don't, just quit on Youtube.

 

[angeldust]

I skimmed through the movie. Its really not even a movie, its just idiotic. Anybody with a camcorder can make this in 1 day and just rant on abusively against the Prophet...

Its really, reaaaaaaally not worth the chaos and protest in our own countries. If anything needs to be done is politely write to Youtube to have it removed and if they don't, just quit on Youtube.

Muslims the world over need to put down the sword and the AK47/RPG, and pick up the pen.

See how the world responds to you then.

If not, you are heavily outgunned and headed in a direction where you cannot win.

 

[A.Rafay]

I skimmed through the movie. Its really not even a movie, its just idiotic. Anybody with a camcorder can make this in 1 day and just rant on abusively against the Prophet...

Its really, reaaaaaaally not worth the chaos and protest in our own countries. If anything needs to be done is politely write to Youtube to have it removed and if they don't, just quit on Youtube.

Yea That Movie is not even close to our old PTV dramas in Quality Its just a ordinary camera work And Its a comedy not a religious film If you watch it Muted you will enjoy it, Its about a Arab landlord who have his guards and he goes to kill people and like women And Eats alot. LOL

 

[SQ8]

I skimmed through the movie. Its really not even a movie, its just idiotic. Anybody with a camcorder can make this in 1 day and just rant on abusively against the Prophet...

Its really, reaaaaaaally not worth the chaos and protest in our own countries. If anything needs to be done is politely write to Youtube to have it removed and if they don't, just quit on Youtube.

Muslims the world over need to put down the sword and the AK47/RPG, and pick up the pen.

See how the world responds to you then.

If not, you are heavily outgunned and headed in a direction where you cannot win.

Yea That Movie is not even close to our old PTV dramas in Quality Its just a ordinary camera work And Its a comedy not a religious film If you watch it Muted you will enjoy it, Its about a Arab landlord who have his guards and he goes to kill people and like women And Eats alot. LOL

If only this prevailed on the hotheads and those misled by false pulpit bearers..and copy paste parrot Mullahs.
The best response was to ignore it.. and if there was to be a response.. the banning of the account should have satisfied all.
What possible could the US ambassadors apology or whatever change the opinion of people like Terry Jones or the maker of this film.
He wanted attention.. and most of the idiots in the world from the Muslim communities gave that to him.
The dog was barking.. and these idiots barked back...

None of these "mai ka laals" have the resources or the guts to take a ticket and shoot the guy .. so they respond in the only way to went their frustrations.. instead of using logic. Even though the appropriate response has been taken.
What would have been ignored and wasnt actually ever damaging to any image of Muslims....has now ended up with even more hostile people to Islam and made it difficult for those who try to bring people into the fold of Islam.