Altaf Hussain demands army take control of Karachi's administration

[Menace2Society]

I think you are an extremely idiot ... You compare to Karachi with Kashmir ... Pakistani army was present in polling stations during bi-elections ... Do you want to say that army was rigged the elections in favor of MQM like Indian army...??

Votes are meaningless under duress.

Who knows what the people have had to go through before they get to the polling booth.

Army can't oversee everything.

And that is a problem, its a failing political party and it has impacted the decision making of its populace. FAIL

Thats why the city is broke and full of crime and terrorism. Altaf did fix these issues in 1990, he sure as hell won't be fixing the issues in 2013.

 

[batmannow]

Votes are meaningless under duress.

Who knows what the people have had to go through before they get to the polling booth.

Army can't oversee everything.

And that is a problem, its a failing political party and it has impacted the decision making of its populace. FAIL

Thats why the city is broke and full of crime and terrorism. Altaf did fix these issues in 1990, he sure as hell won't be fixing the issues in 2013.

thats why he is demanding a total fix forever?
& its not only him, from karachi to kheybar, its same security is down, cause its been sold out to traitors?
i think he fairly demanded it, its where he should hve headed before, but as i said altaf bhai is a patriot, certified by ISI, MQMers objected that?
but now what, altaf bhai pardey key pehey kiya hai?
ISI?
anyhow london police been told by angels, that there is nothing against altaf!
so altaf bhai enjoy kar rehien hien?

 

[Thorough Pro]

This mofo and his *** lickers don't tire blaming Pak Army for the so called military action in 90's, and now he is demanding the same military to take control of Karachi. Either he is a totally confused person or trying to be a smart *** 9 just a few days earlier he called on his blind followers to get ready to fight for their rights.

 

[Mav3rick]

bhai meray if you kill a baloch in Liyari PPP they will call it ethnicity. if you kill a Pathan in kemari ANP will call it ethnicity! if you kill an Urdu speaking terrorist in Azizabad they will call it ethnicity!


so bhai like I said before EVERY POLITICAL PARTY WILL PLAY VICTIM CARD! if their party terrorist wing member is killed!



SO BHAI instead of making another political vicitmization drama by ANY party not just MQM avoid army coming to Karachi!!!

So we just sit and let the atrocities continue unabated, unchallenged?

what is PAC

i don't know they were giving weapons to them but they kept "supply" for them in case army or police wants to conduct operation on "na haqpasat" mqm members

PAC is Peoples Aman Committee, the biggest terror threat to Karachi, the biggest extortionist and kidnapping group, it also has patronage of PPP. I wonder what you know about NATO missing containers when you have no idea of PAC. You have no idea about ground realities or the forces involved yet you post your biased opinion in such a matter of factly way, it is disgusting.

 

[Mav3rick]

abaay roti auratt sub say ziyada royegaa ALTAF mota kofta!


just wait & see if operation is done in Karachi! the biggest cry women on tv will be Altaf!

and please explain how situation NOW is worse compared to last 5 years? when MQM was in power? last 5 years 100s of people got killed but uss waqt khayal nahi ayaa?

Kutte ki dum terhi ki terhi hi rehti hai!! And then it does not matter how many times one may have explained the difference of being an insignificant part of power and being power itself!

MQM blames Army for political victimization in 90s ONLY BECAUSE MQM terrorists were targeted! now when the same situation will repeat in Karachi won't other parties cry?

Since you haven't lost anyone in any operation, you would have no idea what happened in the 90's! I was just a teenager back then and remember how my parents were concerned day in and day out when we had to go to college or for tuition on whether we would safely return or not! That's what happened in the 90's! Over 15 THOUSAND were executed in extra judicial murders, were they all 'terrorists'???

Can you answer 2 simple questions:

1) What actually was the terrorism in Karachi before the 90's?
2) What was the reason for the Military operation in Sindh in the 90's?

the only thing for Karachi s seal it and deweaponise it! but that ALSO MQM cries about!

MQM ****** nahi hai ke pehle Karachi walon ko nehatta kerwade aur dosron ke rehem o karam pe beth jaye!! Why not eliminate the sources of origin of these illegal weapons before any deweaponization or registration drive??? Is mei bhi tum log kia chahate ho, hum ko maloom hai.

MQM kaay drama kabhi nahi khatam houngaay! this is just political point scoring tactics & boredom of MQM because they miss the nostalgic days of Mushi era when they were in power!

When they were in power, Karachi was a restful place. There weren't so many cases of murders and tortures and bhatta khori and what not during Musharraf's days while MQM did actually have some power. Aur aaj ka haal yeh hai ke dehaat ke jahil ganwar log PPP ko vote de ke shehar walon ke sar pe bethna chahate hain woh bhi weapons ke zor pe.

 

[Mav3rick]

Have you seen the state of the city?

The mandate is worthless because nothing is being done.

Votes have been cast under duress by MQM thugs so the elections have been meaningless also.

Dissolve everyone running the Karachi constituencies, remove MQM from politics and re-conduct elections.

This is the only way!

A political party with its head sitting in another country with murder charges and God knows what other charges on him is not a viable political party let alone having influence in how the city is run.

All Karachites who think Pakistanis can't speak for their city need to STFU.

Even under Army, if someone still makes that claim of vote rigging by MQM, to us se bara chawal shayed hi kahi milega!

P.S. What murder charges? How low is your IQ anyway??

If AH is demanding army this means some thing very serious is up there and he sees a bigger nightmare in karachi. Its like when MQM was shouting Talibans are pouring in the city no one listned all the di4k heads were laughing and refused the fact the same is happening now

Everybody knew that Talibaan were creating a stronghold in Karachi but none of them cared. Karachi ka nuksaan sirf Karachi waala hi samajh sakta hai.

 

[Mav3rick]

Even though I am not a fan of MQM, Army should have been sent in Karachi long time ago, the current problem is that the police and Rangers are heavily politicised, and the militant wings are roaming around freely in terrorising the public. The Army needs to be sent in Karachi at the earnest to control law and order, disarm any militant wings irrespective which political party they belong to, only then peace will prevail and more investment will come into the city.

Well, its a little deeper then that now. Rangers and Police are not only heavily politicized, they are involved in every criminal activity in the book, from extortion to land grabbing to extra judicial killings etc.

 

[Mav3rick]

Votes are meaningless under duress.

Who knows what the people have had to go through before they get to the polling booth.

But they are isolated when in the actual polling booth, away from prying eyes, especially in the by elections so they could have voted for just about anyone, right? Yet MQM won so overwhelmingly that the win just cannot be digested by some of your kind!

 

[ice_man]

Kutte ki dum terhi ki terhi hi rehti hai!! And then it does not matter how many times one may have explained the difference of being an insignificant part of power and being power itself!





Since you haven't lost anyone in any operation, you would have no idea what happened in the 90's! I was just a teenager back then and remember how my parents were concerned day in and day out when we had to go to college or for tuition on whether we would safely return or not! That's what happened in the 90's! Over 15 THOUSAND were executed in extra judicial murders, were they all 'terrorists'???

Can you answer 2 simple questions:

1) What actually was the terrorism in Karachi before the 90's?
2) What was the reason for the Military operation in Sindh in the 90's?





MQM ****** nahi hai ke pehle Karachi walon ko nehatta kerwade aur dosron ke rehem o karam pe beth jaye!! Why not eliminate the sources of origin of these illegal weapons before any deweaponization or registration drive??? Is mei bhi tum log kia chahate ho, hum ko maloom hai.





When they were in power, Karachi was a restful place. There weren't so many cases of murders and tortures and bhatta khori and what not during Musharraf's days while MQM did actually have some power. Aur aaj ka haal yeh hai ke dehaat ke jahil ganwar log PPP ko vote de ke shehar walon ke sar pe bethna chahate hain woh bhi weapons ke zor pe.

oh lala baat sunno

FIRSTLY like you said MQM has no "ACTUAL" power but some "fake" power! tou bhai why keep this fake power then? why keep ministries in last 5 years when PAC was apparently killing MQM kaay MAZLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM AFRAAD! while MQM was doing this:

MQM stages massive show in support of Zardari - DAWN.COM

why was MQM quiet then? and keeping ministries & governor post?


and you said in 90s 15,000 people were killed! by who? according to you army right?

then why did MQM run and sit in ARMY MAN MUSHARRAF's lap? without any sorry or apology for the killing of ACCORDING TO YOU 15,000 people?

and IF according to you ARMY killed 15,000 mazloom people then why does MQM want army to come NOW?


tou bhai naa apnaay Army say maafi mangwayi naa apnaay PPP say maafi mangwaayi! aur dono kii gooud mein baari baari bethaay!


tou janaab hogayi naa MUNAFIQAAT WALI POLICY?

aur yeh bayaan bhi paar loo DG RANGER KA:

Militant wings of political parties involved in Karachi violence: DG Rangers – The Express Tribune


tou bhai khuud lashein giraa kaar yaa qatil kaay saath beth kaar rona bohaat hi munafiqaat hoti hai! ya tou PPP kaay saath betho nahi bethtaay hoo pichlaay 5 saal say aur rotaay bhi hoo!


ajeeb party hai MQM! kaatil kaay saath beth tii hai aur shor machati hai! issa tou koi aur party puraay Pakistan mein nahi karti!


ONLY OPTION FOR KARACHI IS SEAL KARACHI & DEWEAPONISE! & follow the JIT REPORT!

 

[Amaa'n]

I can see more than what meets the eye, looks like Nawaz is trying to take over karachi, what he is forgetting is, sending Army in karachi will jave its concequences......we were to go in waziristan to take out ttp, instead he is sending them to clean up the mess of our own leaders.....not a brilliant move

 

[pkuser2k12]

So we just sit and let the atrocities continue unabated, unchallenged?



PAC is Peoples Aman Committee, the biggest terror threat to Karachi, the biggest extortionist and kidnapping group, it also has patronage of PPP. I wonder what you know about NATO missing containers when you have no idea of PAC. You have no idea about ground realities or the forces involved yet you post your biased opinion in such a matter of factly way, it is disgusting.

dont burst in to flames now and calm down i know peoples aman committee ANP mafia and the worst of all MQM target killing and bhata khor association

you are fooling no one in time when army is engaged in east and western boarder mqm is calling them in Karachi

now that is pathetic

 

[W.11]

I can see more than what meets the eye, looks like Nawaz is trying to take over karachi, what he is forgetting is, sending Army in karachi will jave its concequences......we were to go in waziristan to take out ttp, instead he is sending them to clean up the mess of our own leaders.....not a brilliant move

this is funny because when MQM hadnt demanded this army deployment into karachi, they were all in favour of army operation

now the same people are against it?

its not like army has been sold out?

if army can be sent to verify voters, and army can clear flood water and army is pushed to be deployed on polling stations both in and out why not army should be used where its more useful?

it has nothing got to do with nooras, nooras are actually opposing this move, MQM has just played it strategically to show those traders and businessmen that MQM has forwarded their demand, now they cant say that MQM is not fighting for their cause

its all reported in the media now

MQM has also emphecised the karachi situation which sindh government and the federal seem least serious about

the problem with sindh government is that they have been eating 94% of the sindh revenue without even having any political mandate in karachi and they are letting karachiites suffer even though they are eating those haraam revenue

 

[Patriots]

dont burst in to flames now and calm down i know peoples aman committee ANP mafia and the worst of all MQM target killing and bhata khor association

you are fooling no one in time when army is engaged in east and western boarder mqm is calling them in Karachi

now that is pathetic

Then who will do peace in Karachi ... Now police & rangers have been failed ... 6 year are passed but killings of innocent people couldn't be stopped ................

This seems Nero's strategy ... isn't it...??

Traders demand army action against extortionists

KARACHI: Traders in the city on Tuesday staged a protest demonstration against extortion and violent attacks by extortionists on members of the business community.

Speaking to the protesters outside the Karachi Press Club, leaders of the Sindh Tajir Ittehad (STI) condemned persistent threats from extortionists and demanded deployment of the army in the city, saying that the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) had also now supported the call.Led by STI leader Jamil Paracha, the protesters raised

slogans against the Sindh government and demanded military intervention for a lasting peace in the city.

They claimed that the provincial administration had absolutely failed to tackle the menace.

“The Sindh government has failed to provide security to any segment of society,” said Mr Paracha, adding that personnel of the police and other law-enforcement agencies had become so helpless that they could not protect themselves from criminals. “Killing of more than 100 policemen so far this year reflects the state of affairs and the level of threat they are faced with. We believe that only the army can now ensure restoration of a lasting peace in the city and eliminate criminal gangs.”

He said traders had been paying millions of rupees every month to extortionists because anyone not coming to the criminals’ terms had to face dire consequences. “Traders and their family members are kidnapped and grenades are thrown on their houses and business places to force them to pay ‘bhatta’, he said.

Mr Paracha rejected criticism of the demand for army takeover of Karachi, arguing that those terming the demand ‘a conspiracy against democracy’ should know that the constitution did have a provision for such an action in a situation that had arisen in Karachi.

Several MQM lawmakers and activists participated in the traders’ demonstration, which ended with an announcement about the STI plan to stage a sit-in outside the Sindh Assembly in support of their demand. A date for the sit-in was yet to be fixed.

Meanwhile, the Karachi Tajir Ittehad (KTI) — comprising traders and shopkeepers of about 350 wholesale and retail markets in the city – has repeated its demand for handing over the city to the army.

“In fact we had made this demand last year when extortion turned the situation in the city worst,” KTI leader Ateeq Meer said, recalling that his organisation had observed a city-wide shutdown in April 2011 against extortion and serious threats from extortionists to the business community. Several major political parties had also supported the call, he added.—Staff Reporter

http://www.dawn.com/news/1038749/traders-demand-army-action-against-extortionists

 

[Panther 57]

Then who will do peace in Karachi ... Now police & rangers have been failed ... 6 year are passed but killings of innocent people couldn't be stopped ................

This seems Nero's strategy ... isn't it...??

Pkuser2k12 is also right and Patriots is also right. One solution for army is to get reservist to help. A quick refresher and back on line. In fact they should ensure that reservist go through refreshers periodically. Hand picked (though difficult) rangers and police officials can also help. No one is going to solve our problem. Its us ourselves who have to come up with workable ideas.

 

[Patriots]

Karachi traders supports army deployment demand in city
KARACHI: Traders of Karachi have held Sindh Government responsible for the law and order situation in the metropolis, announcing to observe strike till indefinite period.

The traders staged a protest demonstration against extortion and target killings outside the Karachi Press Club.

Muttahida Qaumi Movement leader (MQM) Rasheed Godail also participated in the protest. He demanded of the government to bring Karachi under control of the army in a bid to save “economic engine” of the country.

He said that if the army could be called out for rehabilitation of flood affectees and holding of elections in the country then why not for the purpose to maintain peace in the metropolis.

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