Altaf demands ‘public referendum’ on Rangers operation!

[chauvunist]

I dont want Rangers in Barracks either I want them to Practice what they actually Preach i.e. "Across the Board Action".

Crime Rate is going down because they arent get reported more often that is why. During Iftar timings Mobile Snatching has already gone high these days.

So who would decide that certain Group is working against Pakistan and certain group is not????Agencies on the basis of Suspicions or Courts on the basis of Proofs???

By that logic we should let loose all TTP terrorists because there is not always enough evidence and courts will set them free..On one side you are showing dissatisfaction over the courts and justice system in Pakistan and on the other hand you are presenting them as a yard stick of justice providence..

I dont want Rangers in Barracks either I want them to Practice what they actually Preach i.e. "Across the Board Action".

Crime Rate is going down because they arent get reported more often that is why. During Iftar timings Mobile Snatching has already gone high these days.

So who would decide that certain Group is working against Pakistan and certain group is not????Agencies on the basis of Suspicions or Courts on the basis of Proofs???

The targeted operation is going on in Peshawar and KPK since war on terrorism has started and those with even slightest links to the terrorists are picked up and disapperared,yes there are ocaassional cases when a common man is picked up by them but then after the satisfaction of his innocence,he is released..In the end justice is served,people are safe and terrorists and their sympathizers get locked and disappeared..So people here believe in our int agencies because they know if the person is innocent,he will be released,something Judiciary barely provides..

 

[Gazi]

Mqm was a product of zia's anti PPP campaign in Sindh. And later strengthened by Musharraf. So when you say mqm does not buy what establishment sells, your making fun of your own self.

MQM Zia Connections are just Urban Legend or Political Statements as no such PROOF has been found of Altaf receiving any Help from Army or GHQ or Establishment during 1980s. Musharraf deal was in favor of Karachiite not just MQM so it was Give and Take business in the interest of Karachiite unlike PTI Dharna Business which was all about Take business serves no Interest to common people.

 

[Shot-Caller]

MQM Zia Connections are just Urban Legend or Political Statements as no such PROOF has been found of Altaf receiving any Help from Army or GHQ or Establishment during 1980s. Musharraf deal was in favor of Karachiite not just MQM so it was Give and Take business in the interest of Karachiite unlike PTI Dharna Business which was all about Take business serves no Interest to common people.

What proof do you have that pti dharna was supported by establishment?

 

[chauvunist]

What proof do you have that pti dharna was supported by establishment?

Because Raabta committee and AH dreamt about it so now it's an un-challengable evidence for them or delusion to be precise...

 

[Gazi]

By that logic we should let loose all TTP terrorists because there is not always enough evidence and courts will set them free..On one side you are showing dissatisfaction over the courts and justice system in Pakistan and on the other hand you are presenting them as a yard stick of justice providence..

Whole FATA was a Battle Ground and today North Waziristan is still Partially a Battle Ground as it is going into Cleaning Process from a Group that doesnt even accept Pakistan Constitution what more proof do courts need????LEA after Full Authority and Resources couldnt able to Brought Criminals to Justice is not Judiciary's Fault rather its ineffectiveness of our LEA to bring them to justice after having so much Free hand and Resources to Spare.

The targeted operation is going on in Peshawar and KPK since war on terrorism has started and those with even slightest links to the terrorists are picked up and disapperared,yes there are ocaassional cases when a common man is picked up by them but then after the satisfaction of his innocence,he is released..In the end justice is served,people are safe and terrorists and their sympathizers get locked and disappeared..So people here believe in our int agencies because they know if the person is innocent,he will be released,something Judiciary barely provides..

In KPK they are dealing with Terrorism Problem with the way they suppose to and they are up against those who doesnt even Accept our Constitution but in Karachi they are dealing with Purely Administrative Problem as Political One. There is a difference in both cases. Over there no one is Arresting people and ALLEGEDLY torture them to Record Confessional Statements and Releasing them to Media to Malign and Humiliate them but here in Karachi that is Happening and this is something which Karachiite are pointing out as wrong Practice all together.

What proof do you have that pti dharna was supported by establishment?

London Plan.

 

[Shot-Caller]

Because Ra abta committee and AH dreamt about it so now it's an un-challengable evidence for them or delusion to be precise...

Exactly. Anything against them is just conspiracy and anything against their rivals is automatically true. One reason why these traitors and criminals have ruined karachi is because of these illogical stupid supporters who would turn a blind eye to their wrongdoings. Or may be they get benefits and thats why want to see them stay in power no matter what happens to the city. Even a kid in karachi knows how much mess these bugs have created because they experience it on a daily basis.

London Plan.

You don't just sound retarded but you have nothing substantial to say. I hope you pay for defending this mafia that has engraved fear in minds of the citizens of karachi.

 

[Norwegian]

London Plan.

Where is the PROOF for London Plan, MQM stooge?

 

[Shot-Caller]

In KPK they are dealing with Terrorism Problem with the way they suppose to and they are up against those who doesnt even Accept our Constitution but in Karachi they are dealing with Purely Administrative Problem as Political One. There is a difference in both cases. Over there no one is Arresting people and ALLEGEDLY torture them to Record Confessional Statements and Releasing them to Media to Malign and Humiliate them but here in Karachi that is Happening and this is something which Karachiite are pointing out as wrong Practice all together.

Who are you to speak for karachiites? Go ask anyone neutral how precise and accurate operations are being conducted and the number of target killings has gone down.

 

[chauvunist]

Whole FATA was a Battle Ground and today North Waziristan is still Partially a Battle Ground as it is going into Cleaning Process from a Group that doesnt even accept Pakistan Constitution what more proof do courts need????LEA after Full Authority and Resources couldnt able to Brought Criminals to Justice is not Judiciary's Fault rather its ineffectiveness of our LEA to bring them to justice after having so much Free hand and Resources to Spare.
In KPK they are dealing with Terrorism Problem with the way they suppose to and they are up against those who doesnt even Accept our Constitution but in Karachi they are dealing with Purely Administrative Problem as Political One. There is a difference in both cases. Over there no one is Arresting people and ALLEGEDLY torture them to Record Confessional Statements and Releasing them to Media to Malign and Humiliate them but here in Karachi that is Happening and this is something which Karachiite are pointing out as wrong Practice all together.

London Plan.

More than 20,000 people killed in Karachi in the last 6 years and you call it administrative problem and not a terrorism problem,Kudos to your thinking...If it is merely an administrative problem then why Karachi has been termed the most dangerous city in the world...

The example i gave you is of Peshawar and not Tribal agencies,with people's support and understanding of the situation,LEA were/are free to act against culprits of any kind and no one is hindering them because of personal or vested interests..

 

[Gazi]

Who are you to speak for karachiites? Go ask anyone neutral how precise and accurate operations are being conducted and the number of target killings has gone down.

Majority of them do if you dont believe me check out the reaction of people towards Faisal Wavda when he visited Karim Center few hours after giving Provocative Statement against MQM in media.

 

[Shot-Caller]

Majority of them do if you dont believe me check out the reaction of people towards Faisal Wavda when he visited Karim Center few hours after giving Provocative Statement against MQM in media.

Send babar ghauri in defense or some area that has majority of pti supporters and they may throw eggs at him. It doesn't prove anything. I was talking about a 'neutral citizen of karachi' being satisfied with the situation.

 

[chauvunist]

Majority of them do if you dont believe me check out the reaction of people towards Faisal Wavda when he visited Karim Center few hours after giving Provocative Statement against MQM in media.

You mean like this..

Karachi Girl Ex-posed How MQM Win The Elections - Baat.TV

 

[Gazi]

25000 people killed in the last 6 years and you call it administrative problem and not a terrorism problem,Kudos to your thinking...If it is merely an administrative problem then why Karachi has been termed the most dangerous city in the world...

Karachi LEA has been FAILED to stop Crimes in last 8 years while They were Working quite fine in same Capacity during Musharraf's 8 years when Crime Rate was Very low in comparison. What else should I call it????Terrorism.

The example i gave you is of Peshawar and not Tribal agencies,with people's support and understanding of the situation,LEA were/are free to act against culprits of any kind and no one is hindering them because of personal or vested interests..

Do Taliban have any Public Support like the way MQM has????Does Taliban ever develop FATA if they are given power Constitutionally like the way MQM develop Karachi when they had Administrative Powers Constitutionally???Two situation cant be compared. Convince any Karachiite to become IDP so that Army could move in and do their work without facing any issue of hitting Civilians you would know the results.

You mean like this..

Karachi Girl Ex-posed How MQM Win The Elections - Baat.TV

She could belong to Jamati Family.

NA 246 Result is quite recent one and more recent one was what happened to Faisal Wavda last night when people chanted slogans in favor of MQM.

 

[chauvunist]

Karachi LEA has been FAILED to stop Crimes in last 8 years while They were Working quite fine in same Capacity during Musharraf's 8 years when Crime Rate was Very low in comparison. What else should I call it????Terrorism.

Do Taliban have any Public Support like the way MQM has????Does Taliban ever develop FATA if they are given power Constitutionally like the way MQM develop Karachi when they had Administrative Powers Constitutionally???Two situation cant be compared. Convince any Karachiite to become IDP so that Army could move in and do their work without facing any issue of hitting Civilians you would know the results.

Because MQM was in power and as long it's wishes were fulfilled ,no murder or bori band laashain but as soon as things turned unexpected,here we go to business again and that is what it proves,thank you for your example..

 

[Gazi]

Send babar ghauri in defense or some area that has majority of pti supporters and they may throw eggs at him. It doesn't prove anything. I was talking about a 'neutral citizen of karachi' being satisfied with the situation.

Dont need to because Khushbakht Shujaat live in DHA already so as Waseem Akhter.