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Phir tou larai kabhi nai rukay gi....Even when RELIGIOUS books say dont fight, the believers fight and the non believers believing it is in the book are laughed at as a joke and the circle turns on and the cycle continues....

Are yaar yehi to sara game hai Mr Allah ka... he gave us enough "brain" to understand the situation and act accordingly or else we would be simply animals.A brain which has power to think and derive conclusions makes us different.

Unfortunately the religious books are often used as a tool to gratify the evil greedy aims so thats the reason the vicious cycle continues.
 
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I don't believe the army will interfere with a positive public media campaign and school curricula refit. The army's entire approach, even during these waves of terrorism and other problems, has been hands off. The army is giving maximum rope to the democratic civilian administration to hang itself by its own incompetence while the army says, "this is democracy, you wanted it, here it is".

As for the madrassas, again, they are just the foot soldiers. Our real enemy are the political elite who support these madrassas and, once again, it will have to be the media's job to highlight any politician who opposes the message of inclusiveness.

Bottom line, nothing can succeed unless the national media cooperates to name and shame individuals obstructing the positive message.

With all respect.

May I ask you? Who is this army? Is it not your people? Army is a non entity....more like a tool. The soldiers fight for a cause.
They are not the cause.

I guess I am happy my army is my right arm not my rival.
 
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I believe sikhs started it. And martial race like sikhs carried out more deaths and rapes than meek punjabi muslims. But it doesnt matter who started it. Religous Violence and riots is deep rooted in whole subcontinent. I have contacts with some indian muslims and i know well about religous intolerance and suffocation in your country. This thread is not for an indian like you to put salt on our wounds.

no it was all strated by some muslim ulemas of Karachi and later went to bahawalpur then to lahore all three places where hindus and sikhs were in very large numbers and they were most prosporous aswell the local muslim at first was reluctant to act but when they were told they will get all the so called mal e ghanimat and women of hindus and sikhs it started in a big way and hight reached wen two trains of brutalli murdered and raped hindus and sikhs arrived in amritsar

get your facts right

massacers of partition werre never a good thing for us but you wont beleave if you have got gutts talk to marvee simred about this and shel tell you what all and how all things unfolded
 
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Top generals who have the power to influence national politics.

We are not talking about the rank and file soldier.

I cannot say much as I am not in your position. The most I can do is imagine my country is falling apart. Either way it will not matter much.

I cannot say much for influence and power. As far as I am concerned power is what you can give. I really only care about my people on the Indian side of the border. May India give them: Food Water love and Peace.
 
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We should teach kids and our media should broadcast an inclusive vision of Islam and make it clear that anything and anyone (unspecified) that preaches otherwise is contrary to Islam.

I think we should give people enough credit that they will put 2+2 together, especially if we reign in the mullahs and institute strict controls over what is preached in the mosques, etc.

Agreed.....but this is long term strategy don't you think that at this time and in current scenario we have to take some strong step :undecided:


These wahabis are coward if our army or government just pull their rope and cut their funding, will help us.
 
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no it was all strated by some muslim ulemas of Karachi and later went to bahawalpur then to lahore all three places where hindus and sikhs were in very large numbers and they were most prosporous aswell the local muslim at first was reluctant to act but when they were told they will get all the so called mal e ghanimat and women of hindus and sikhs it started in a big way and hight reached wen two trains of brutalli murdered and raped hindus and sikhs arrived in amritsar

get your facts right

massacers of partition werre never a good thing for us but you wont beleave if you have got gutts talk to marvee simred about this and shel tell you what all and how all things unfolded

You are also talking from Indian Textbooks.....
 
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@muse @Hyperion @Dillinger @Mirzay @Talon @KRAIT @Armstrong
Just saw the report on TV channels ! I just cant believe what my countrymen have done ... Those poor Christians were weeping and devastated , their homes were burned after looting ... The purest of pure Muslims ( reports saying over 3000 of high-on-religious-opium people ) fueled by the local sick cleric collected Chemicals overnight taking the word of a drunk Muslim , whilst the police criminally asked the residents to leave , promising them to provide protection to their homes and watched silently as the mobs burned it all ( about 200 homes ) and collected some-sort-of-Mullah war bounty from them in the name of thy Lord , the most benevolent and merciful and for the Prophet who's a blessing for all humanity ... Last not but not least , a Church was burned too with a Bible ( the book which contains the name of Prophet Muhammed and Esa Ibm Marium [Jesus] ) :azn: Amazing , wouldn't you say , huh ?

Forgetting the Prophet's promise to Christians of

In 628 AD, a delegation from St. Catherine's Monastery came to the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and requested his protection. He responded by granting them the following charter of rights. St. Catherine's Monastery is located at the foot of Mt. Sinai in modern-day Egypt and is the world's oldest monastery.

"This is a message from Muhammad ibn Abdullah, as a covenant to those who adopt Christianity, near and far, we are with them. Verily I, the servants, the helpers, and my followers defend them, because Christians are my citizens; and by God! I hold out against anything that displeases them. No compulsion is to be on them. Neither are their judges to be removed from their jobs nor their monks from their monasteries. No one is to destroy a house of their religion, to damage it, or to carry anything from it to the Muslims' houses. Should anyone take any of these, he would spoil God's covenant and disobey His Prophet. Verily, they are my allies and have my secure charter against all that they hate. No one is to force them to travel or to oblige them to fight. The Muslims are to fight for them. If a female Christian is married to a Muslim, it is not to take place without her approval. She is not to be prevented from visiting her church to pray. Their churches are to be respected. They are neither to be prevented from repairing them nor the sacredness of their covenants. No one of the nation (Muslims) is to disobey the covenant till the Last Day (end of the world)."
 
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@Aeronaut @muse @Developereo @Armstrong (pacifist) @Irfan Baloch @Dillinger (observer)

What do you guys say about my solution. Counterpoints please.


@muse @Hyperion @Dillinger @Mirzay @Talon @KRAIT @Armstrong
Just saw the report on TV channels ! I just cant believe what my countrymen have done ... Those poor Christians were weeping and devastated , their homes were burned after looting ... The purest of pure Muslims ( reports saying over 3000 of high-on-religious-opium people ) fueled by the local sick cleric collected Chemicals overnight taking the word of a drunk Muslim , whilst the police criminally asked the residents to leave , promising them to provide protection to their homes and watched silently as the mobs burned it all ( about 200 homes ) and collected some-sort-of-Mullah war bounty from them in the name of thy Lord , the most benevolent and merciful and for the Prophet who's a blessing for all humanity ... Last not but not least , a Church was burned too with a Bible ( the book which contains the name of Prophet Muhammed and Esa Ibm Marium [Jesus] ) :azn: Amazing , wouldn't you say , huh ?

Forgetting the Prophet's promise to Christians of

In 628 AD, a delegation from St. Catherine's Monastery came to the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and requested his protection. He responded by granting them the following charter of rights. St. Catherine's Monastery is located at the foot of Mt. Sinai in modern-day Egypt and is the world's oldest monastery.

"This is a message from Muhammad ibn Abdullah, as a covenant to those who adopt Christianity, near and far, we are with them. Verily I, the servants, the helpers, and my followers defend them, because Christians are my citizens; and by God! I hold out against anything that displeases them. No compulsion is to be on them. Neither are their judges to be removed from their jobs nor their monks from their monasteries. No one is to destroy a house of their religion, to damage it, or to carry anything from it to the Muslims' houses. Should anyone take any of these, he would spoil God's covenant and disobey His Prophet. Verily, they are my allies and have my secure charter against all that they hate. No one is to force them to travel or to oblige them to fight. The Muslims are to fight for them. If a female Christian is married to a Muslim, it is not to take place without her approval. She is not to be prevented from visiting her church to pray. Their churches are to be respected. They are neither to be prevented from repairing them nor the sacredness of their covenants. No one of the nation (Muslims) is to disobey the covenant till the Last Day (end of the world)."
 
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You are also talking from Indian Textbooks.....

That's odd because I've had Indian teachers teach us material from Indian textbooks all through elementary, middle, and high school, and not once, were the gory details of the partition of Punjab mentioned or discussed. All we were taught is that in '47, British India was divided into West Pakistan, India, and East Pakistan, and left in its wake, a major loss of life, property, and broken families.
 
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@muse @Hyperion @Dillinger @Mirzay @Talon @KRAIT @Armstrong
Just saw the report on TV channels ! I just cant believe what my countrymen have done ... Those poor Christians were weeping and devastated , their homes were burned after looting ... The purest of pure Muslims ( reports saying over 3000 of high-on-religious-opium people ) fueled by the local sick cleric collected Chemicals overnight taking the word of a drunk Muslim , whilst the police criminally asked the residents to leave , promising them to provide protection to their homes and watched silently as the mobs burned it all ( about 200 homes ) and collected some-sort-of-Mullah war bounty from them in the name of thy Lord , the most benevolent and merciful and for the Prophet who's a blessing for all humanity ... Last not but not least , a Church was burned too with a Bible ( the book which contains the name of Prophet Muhammed and Esa Ibm Marium [Jesus] ) :azn: Amazing , wouldn't you say , huh ?

Forgetting the Prophet's promise to Christians of

In 628 AD, a delegation from St. Catherine's Monastery came to the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and requested his protection. He responded by granting them the following charter of rights. St. Catherine's Monastery is located at the foot of Mt. Sinai in modern-day Egypt and is the world's oldest monastery.

"This is a message from Muhammad ibn Abdullah, as a covenant to those who adopt Christianity, near and far, we are with them. Verily I, the servants, the helpers, and my followers defend them, because Christians are my citizens; and by God! I hold out against anything that displeases them. No compulsion is to be on them. Neither are their judges to be removed from their jobs nor their monks from their monasteries. No one is to destroy a house of their religion, to damage it, or to carry anything from it to the Muslims' houses. Should anyone take any of these, he would spoil God's covenant and disobey His Prophet. Verily, they are my allies and have my secure charter against all that they hate. No one is to force them to travel or to oblige them to fight. The Muslims are to fight for them. If a female Christian is married to a Muslim, it is not to take place without her approval. She is not to be prevented from visiting her church to pray. Their churches are to be respected. They are neither to be prevented from repairing them nor the sacredness of their covenants. No one of the nation (Muslims) is to disobey the covenant till the Last Day (end of the world)."

And you think they care about what God & His Prophet says?

PS: Thanks for sharing, Saving it for debate with Sarkari Muslims
 
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And you think they care about what God & His Prophet says?

PS: Thanks for sharing, Saving it for debate with Sarkari Muslims

I am well aware of their modus operandi , mate ... No , they do not , I know ...

You are welcome :)
 
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What pathetic law and order situation, in broad day light, how easily they did manage to burn down a whole colony without Police stopping or interrupting them and that too all in the middle of Lahore city !!
 
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@muse @Hyperion @Dillinger @Mirzay @Talon @KRAIT @Armstrong
Just saw the report on TV channels ! I just cant believe what my countrymen have done ... Those poor Christians were weeping and devastated , their homes were burned after looting ... The purest of pure Muslims ( reports saying over 3000 of high-on-religious-opium people ) fueled by the local sick cleric collected Chemicals overnight taking the word of a drunk Muslim , whilst the police criminally asked the residents to leave , promising them to provide protection to their homes and watched silently as the mobs burned it all ( about 200 homes ) and collected some-sort-of-Mullah war bounty from them in the name of thy Lord , the most benevolent and merciful and for the Prophet who's a blessing for all humanity ... Last not but not least , a Church was burned too with a Bible ( the book which contains the name of Prophet Muhammed and Esa Ibm Marium [Jesus] ) :azn: Amazing , wouldn't you say , huh ?

Forgetting the Prophet's promise to Christians of

In 628 AD, a delegation from St. Catherine's Monastery came to the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and requested his protection. He responded by granting them the following charter of rights. St. Catherine's Monastery is located at the foot of Mt. Sinai in modern-day Egypt and is the world's oldest monastery.

"This is a message from Muhammad ibn Abdullah, as a covenant to those who adopt Christianity, near and far, we are with them. Verily I, the servants, the helpers, and my followers defend them, because Christians are my citizens; and by God! I hold out against anything that displeases them. No compulsion is to be on them. Neither are their judges to be removed from their jobs nor their monks from their monasteries. No one is to destroy a house of their religion, to damage it, or to carry anything from it to the Muslims' houses. Should anyone take any of these, he would spoil God's covenant and disobey His Prophet. Verily, they are my allies and have my secure charter against all that they hate. No one is to force them to travel or to oblige them to fight. The Muslims are to fight for them. If a female Christian is married to a Muslim, it is not to take place without her approval. She is not to be prevented from visiting her church to pray. Their churches are to be respected. They are neither to be prevented from repairing them nor the sacredness of their covenants. No one of the nation (Muslims) is to disobey the covenant till the Last Day (end of the world)."

The rights of chritians are very well proven by the last sermon of Hazrat Mohammad P.B.U.H but i am sure that those people even dont know about it.. None can protect their act .
 
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