Huda
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Stupid people.
It was drama by PPP.
I heard that this drama was created because of land dispute
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Stupid people.
It was drama by PPP.
This is a sad incident that is a curse on the face of humanity. The terrorists have murdered a great number of people and these men who are their moral supporters should all be punished severely. LEJ, TTP and other terrorist groups are extremely dangerous adversaries who do not believe in Pakistan (Jinnah was Shia!!!)... since they believe Shias are not Muslim.
Christians are in Pakistan because they were sure we would provide them protection and have great ties with them. Cornelius would be turning in his grave if he saw what our Christian brothers are going through. We have to defend Pakistani citizens and treat them as equal regardless of race, ethnicity and religion. We are one and in this difficult time I stand with my Christian brothers. I do not lie here. Our bond is beautiful and we stand under one flag united.
A sad little day in the history of Pakistan. I can't believe after all our family and many others like it went through in India, the persecution, the bias, the discrimination... we are doing the same to our minorities
I heard that this drama was created because of land dispute
Yeah i went to their mosque and most of them were jahil(illiterate)
no the two bastaards the Christian and the Muslim who fought with each other after being drunk. the two idiots are said to be close friend.
Whereas the entire drunkard fight was hijacked by political rats and thus the bigger damage
i suppose you are talking about their women, what were women doing in a mosque?
Not so fast - first of all intolerance and divisiveness is not what Islam is about BUT it is what Wahabism is about
We should teach kids and our media should broadcast an inclusive vision of Islam and make it clear that anything and anyone (unspecified) that preaches otherwise is contrary to Islam.
I think we should give people enough credit that they will put 2+2 together, especially if we reign in the mullahs and institute strict controls over what is preached in the mosques, etc.
The whole point is to have a strategy which will future proof us against any other ideology that is thrust upon us to divide us. We don't want to create custom campaigns for every threat when a single, coherent and simple message will work just as well.
Not so fast - first of all intolerance and divisiveness is not what Islam is about BUT it is what Wahabism is about - It's VERY important to NAME the enemy, Very important to IDENTIFY what is objectionable and what is carryng this objectionable message.
To argue on one hand that one is no fan of Wahabism and on the other hand to suggest that to Name and Identify Wahabism as objectionable is to attack Islam, seems to me, as less than honest, we can't appear to be seen as speaking from both sides, it robs us of credibility and it insults peoples intelligence.
See, if Unity, tolerance, pluralism, an acceptance of the reality that there as many ways to get to God as there are Faithful, that love of Humanity is love of God, that Mercy, Compassion and Forgiveness are the well spring of Redemption, IS Islam, who would object?? See ideas Matter, because ideas are VALUE Laden, we accept and promote some values and MUST reject others as harmful as they are sacrilegious, misguided. Isn't this so??
Indeed, it is, and so we must not be afraid to NAME and SHAME and IDENTIFY that which we ASSERT is good and right and that which we ASSERT is Bad and Wrong - Wahabism is not the totality of Islam - and Islam is not some brittle fossil that cannot bear examination - Islam e Zinda = MussaIman e Zinda - in the present, Conscious and Decision making, responsible, not a automaton
What i meant was this that for a person to become true fundamentalist,he/she should be trained from childhood.Most of the inclinations regarding race,religion and caste are formed within first 5-7 years .I was quoting a point which i have read.There was no reason for blowing up for that.
I'm not suggesting of any kind of war against another country -- our war is in our own country - and if we cannot even be masters there then we have no country
Mate, you are totally correct about the wider "wahabiat" problem, however, our focus at the moment can not be to fight a global-war against it (we simply don't have the capacity and can't afford it), but a regional war within Pakistan. Once we are done with that, and our country is relatively stable, we can sit down and strategize about how to get even. But all that will come later. I agree to a certain degree with @Developereo, that we have to be a bit pragmatic about it.
We've talked about this before too and I have to concur with @muse- without defining the opposition how can one oppose it- using the proper name to denote any such movement or ideology is of paramount importance. But, even a layman like me sitting here in India knows who underwrites the Wahabi operations (and you know it better than me). The amount of funding is mind boggling- and the underwriter has a big stick- pull the plug on them and the backlash is severe. Any strategy to counter such poisonous ideologies will have to be nuanced, SA may be cooperating under the new King to stop Wahabi funded activities that are against Pakistan's national interests, BUT- IF Pakistan attacks the very core of wahabi ideology then don't you think SA and the Gulf states will take umbrage to that one way or the other?