Allahabad Univ VC can sleep better, Mosque reduces Azaan volume

[xeuss]

The VC was getting troubled by the loudspeaker, she complianed and got a resolution.
If you are getting troubled by the noise coming from a temple, mandal, mela - you are free to complain and seek resolution. What is stopping you?

The point is that I am not troubled at all. I am not complaining. I live in a multifaith society and I am comfortable with the various practices of religion. I am simply pointing out the hypocrisy of Hindu society.

You’ve got firecrackers on Diwali banned, what else do you want? If the temple outside my home uses loudspeaker after 10 PM they are also fined, not just temples but it is a rule in Delhi in particular which prohibits use of loudspeaker in any form after 10 PM till 6 PM and you better know it that that’s why no family parties or marriages have loudspeakers running after 10 PM so what is so special?


ISKCON temple has been fined many times in front of my eyes because they were using loudspeakers after 10PM on Janmashtami in New Delhi, but you won’t mention it, if it is something related to minorities you will be the first to pop up.

Delighted to hear that. Thank you for the information. My experiences in my locality have been different.

This is pointless. I find Islamists comes up with inane whatabouteries and cry bully behaviour when faced with logical limits of religion in a multifaith society. You are no exception.

You are not making much sense here. It's cool. Logic and Sanghis never went hand in hand anyway.

 

[hussain0216]

Even If a Mandir’s loudspeaker creates too much noise the same happens, but I know this is your national narrative “Muslims targetted”, ”Muslims in India have 0 rights”, “Muslims in India unsafe” and blah blah.

India treats equally to all irrespective of who you are, and if you don’t want to accept this reality and keep spamming those lame dreamy comments like “Muslims in India targetted”, ”Muslims in India have 0 rights”, “Muslims in India unsafe” and blah blah then it is your problem now ours. There is a reason why Hindus and Sikhs come to India from Pakistan for refuge due to persecution and no Indian Muslim goes to Pakistan for refuge or citizenship.

You can give yourself feel good crap in brains reading George Soros funded reports but India is and will remain secular.


You can read one sided news and post threads like “Muslim boy beaten for drinking water in Temple” without knowing the other side of the story that the temple has been long attacked by Muslims and their women were harrassed by Muslim boys and many times they stole money and ornaments from temples too and many police actions have happened against them, there was a handpump and a water dispenser outside yet he went inside deep inside for whatever malicious intent he had and was beaten, but then you will call this propaganda and whatever you say as truth and reality. Grow up and focus on yourselves, Muslims of India don’t give a damn to Pakistan and Pakistan’s opinions.

Pakistan is only for Pakistani citizens, if Indians hate each other then partition India

 

[magra]

The point is that I am not troubled at all. I am not complaining. I live in a multifaith society and I am comfortable with the various practices of religion. I am simply pointing out the hypocrisy of Hindu society.

As explained by multiple posts, actions have been taken against temple loudspeaker use, firecracker use as well. So where is the hypocrisy?
If you feel that Hindus are getting preferential treatment, you are free to approach the courts. Just sitting and murmuring at home wont help your grievance.

 

[HostileInsurgent]

Pakistan is only for Pakistani citizens, if Indians hate each other then partition India

We already did, if anyone wants to leave he can go to Pakistan anytime, I am ready to pay the full sum for that 1 way journey.

 

[hussain0216]

We already did, if anyone wants to leave he can go to Pakistan anytime, I am ready to pay the full sum for that 1 way journey.

Pakistan is ONLY for our citizens

We have no connection to India, as India becomes increasingly hindutva and increasingly poisonous and intolerant as shown by its slide in international rankings it will year itself apart as the people hate each other

The different groups will split and take their own land, what's the point of forcing hundreds of millions of people to be stuck in such a poisonous communal state

you are free to approach the courts

The courts???? You mean the courts that justified a mob attack on a historic mosque, that refused to punish any of the mob, and rewarded the hindutva mob with occupation of a mosque site???

Those courts?

 

[magra]

We already did, if anyone wants to leave he can go to Pakistan anytime, I am ready to pay the full sum for that 1 way journey.

No Indian wants to go to Pakistan, as evidenced by no Indian muslim migration to Pakistan but many Pakistani Hindus / Sikhs migrating to India.

Some Indian muslims have some grievances and these will be solved within our country. We will not allow our enemies to take advantage of our internal issues.

 

[HostileInsurgent]

You mean the courts that justified a mob attack on a historic mosque, that refused to punish any of the mob

If the supreme court doesn’t give a verdict you like doesn’t mean it is wrong, courts run on facts, figures and all other stuff. They are highly experienced people not Internet Graduates.

Babri has a long history, at last there is a mosque being built on the land allocated by the very same supreme court 2.5 times bigger than the original one in Ayodhya, but where is the Temple in Islamabad ya’ll were braggin’ about?

Pakistan is ONLY for our citizens

We have no connection to India, as India becomes increasingly hindutva and increasingly poisonous and intolerant as shown by its slide in international rankings it will year itself apart as the people hate each other

The different groups will split and take their own land, what's the point of forcing hundreds of millions of people to be stuck in such a poisonous communal state

Pakistan was created for Muslims of this subcontinent, hence if anyone wants will go to Pakistan else go somewhere else, those Muhajirs are also the very same people, “no connection to India” lol having an Indian Quaid-e-azam and no connection to India.

 

[xeuss]

As explained by multiple posts, actions have been taken against temple loudspeaker use, firecracker use as well. So where is the hypocrisy?
If you feel that Hindus are getting preferential treatment, you are free to approach the courts. Just sitting and murmuring at home wont help your grievance.

Your majoritarian privilege prevents you from seeing the hypocrisy.

I guess I can't even air my thoughts on an internet forum. The vanguards of Hindu society urge us to stay silent. Courts are the way to go they say. The same courts that allow a rapist to marry his victim....but I digress

 

[magra]

You mean the courts that justified a mob attack on a historic mosque, that refused to punish any of the mob, and rewarded the hindutva mob with occupation of a mosque site???

The courts did not justify the attack on mosque. Read me the judgement copy where it justifies the attack.

Due to lack of sufficient evidence and shoddy investigation, the mob leaders were let go.

I agree that the court decision to award the site for temple was not correct. The judges, I feel, capitulated under political pressure.

But that does not say mean that there is widespread injustice. If there are certain irritants, atleast voice them instead of just saying 'discrimination' repeatedly.

 

[HostileInsurgent]

Your majoritarian privilege prevents you from seeing the hypocrisy.

I guess I can't even air my thoughts on an internet forum. The vanguards of Hindu society urge us to stay silent. Courts are the way to go they say. The same courts that allow a rapist to marry his victim....but I digress

Liberandoos on Social Media: “Mudi is suppressing mah voice, Mudi shud rejine” is the biggest hypocrisy.

 

[magra]

Your majoritarian privilege prevents you from seeing the hypocrisy.

I guess I can't even air my thoughts on an internet forum. The vanguards of Hindu society urge us to stay silent. Courts are the way to go they say. The same courts that allow a rapist to marry his victim....but I digress

I am open to seeing the hypocrisy if you tell me specific incidents instead of a blanket 'discrimination' slogan.

Pakistan was created for Muslims of this subcontinent, hence if anyone wants will go to Pakistan else go somewhere else, those Muhajirs are also the very same people, “no connection to India” lol having an Indian Quaid-e-azam and no connection to India

Pakistan was allowed to be created to satisfy Jinnah so that he does not repeat incidents like 'Direct Action Day'. India was always for all religions - hence we adopted secularism. Whoever remained in India are Indians now. By asking people to move to Pakistan at every drop of a hat, we are weakening our own unity and integrity.

 

[xeuss]

I am open to seeing the hypocrisy if you tell me specific incidents instead of a blanket 'discrimination' slogan.

It was provided numerous times in this thread. I guess we have exhausted our points by repeating them ad nauseum. I don't want to digress with other unrelated incidents. Sometimes the urge to justify your own thoughts prevents understanding the other person's position. Perhaps you can reflect upon what I said.

 

[magra]

It was provided numerous times in this thread. I guess we have exhausted our points by repeating them ad nauseum. I don't want to digress with other unrelated incidents. Sometimes the urge to justify your own thoughts prevents understanding the other person's position. Perhaps you can reflect upon what I said.

Am I saying that there is no discrminination against minorities in India? No.
There are some instances where they are intentionally or unintentionally discriminated against. It is the responsibility of every Indian to work towards removing such irritants to make our society better.

But it is not as if India is the only country which has such issues. Many other countries have it much worse. Sri Lanka till recently did not allow Muslims dying from Covid to be buried. You hear several European countries bringing in laws targetting Muslims.

Every country has its issues but criticizing the entire other community does not solve anything. In fact, doing that makes you sound the extremist. You should definitely voice the issues but without calling names to the community. That would be my humble advice.

 

[colonel rajesh]

Not sure how I proved your point by providing evidences of sexual abuse of minors and women in temples. I guess I must have completely missed the cryptic language that you wrote confirming that temples are centers of sexual abuse.

very good , now do little search and come up with news about sexual abuse in your centres .

You’ve got firecrackers on Diwali banned, what else do you want? If the temple outside my home uses loudspeaker after 10 PM they are also fined, not just temples but it is a rule in Delhi in particular which prohibits use of loudspeaker in any form after 10 PM till 6 PM and you better know it that that’s why no family parties or marriages have loudspeakers running after 10 PM so what is so special?


ISKCON temple has been fined many times in front of my eyes because they were using loudspeakers after 10PM on Janmashtami in New Delhi, but you won’t mention it, if it is something related to minorities you will be the first to pop up.

these are habitual complainers , they will cry foul even though they have all rights .

It was provided numerous times in this thread. I guess we have exhausted our points by repeating them ad nauseum. I don't want to digress with other unrelated incidents. Sometimes the urge to justify your own thoughts prevents understanding the other person's position. Perhaps you can reflect upon what I said.

only muslims complaint , though you have all rights . you have problem in sri lanka , europe , america, australia , india, israel .everywhere muslims like you keep on complaining . you will not be happy in even pakistan , you will return in three days .

 

[xyxmt]

I personally think Mosques in Pakistan can reduce the volume for Azan, when there is a mosque on every street you dont need to announce azan as if you are inviting the whole city in your mosque