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An Independent East Turkestan will be bad for Pakistan

  • Yes

    Votes: 64 53.8%
  • No

    Votes: 55 46.2%

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hahaha kaka g! u dont know me! yr just too immature thats yr problem.....go read the last post i posted quoting u.

I still standby that. Maslaihat bhi koi cheez hoti ha kakay!


and same goes for Babri Masjid too?:lol:

Sunshine! dont push it!
Ya, cuz when that happen hindus and the whole indian society didnt cause an uproar against it, the whole thing did radically changed our society and laws, things dont get overlooked but they are subjected to scrutiny in india dear. Injustice was caused in that incident towards muslim then, and we recognize and condemn that. Why do you always see it from the point of view of the extremists in our society.
 
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Also how does it matter new or old, they obviously take clearances before constructing any building, also religious sites of any religion are a work of art. I am an atheist and i can say that. i dont believe in the religions but i agree they sites add value, beauty and tourism. Why want to destroy them unless without an ulterior motive. You can always relocate them, many historical monuments are relocated. Nothing new.
Simple. For things that is new, those who lost it in the first place are still alive. The resentment from them is still alive and kicking. How much resentment is left in Pakistan from people who lost in the war of Islamic conquest?
 
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and in Xinjiang which shares common borders with Muslim World from 3 sides and is a Muslim Province!

All this while you were blabbing that its China internal issue....and now you declare Xinjiang as "Muslim" province instead of Chinese one....and bring in Muslim world as argument?

No, dummy. Nobody likes to have something he is familiar with to be demolished, unless it is done by himself. Even if nothing is demolished, like the empty lot that was proposed to build a mosque in my neighborhood, people are still against it. People don't like familiar things changed into something unfamiliar and that is the source of resentment if forced upon. Muslims don't like their newly built mosque being demolished, nor do other people who didn't like that mosque to be built in the first place. Look at the bigger and fuller picture unless all you have learned from Islam is to disregard other people entirely.

LOL, dont bother too much with Umair, he's not the brightest tool in the shed:

angle of attack is just 600 km........do the maths!

Don't mention Karachi either, he gets triggered easily lol.

He is one of PDF more amusing characters though, try to enjoy the banter rather than take him seriously.
 
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Simple. For things that is new, those who lost it in the first place are still alive. The resentment from them is still alive and kicking. How much resentment is left in Pakistan from people who lost in the war of Islamic conquest?
So you weigh things by how much resentment it will cause nd not if it is right or wrong morally
 
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Speak for yourself. A Muslims relationship with Allah is far more sacred and deeper than with Mushrikeen Chinese. Prophet Muhammad (saww) told us Muslims are like parts of a body, if one part hurts the whole body hurts. Don't assume for me or rest of Pakistani Muslims next time because you're clearly oblivious to this simple fact about Muslims.

If you were to come out of the rock you were living under, everyone and their mother hates and condemns America. Are you living in communist rule or something that you're so ignorant?

So as long as you don't kill someone, it's not oppression? Look at your pathetic justifications. Just disgusting.

Oh let me post proofs of those concentration camps, silly me, I'll just go to the concentration camps and tell those Chinese to smile for the camera while they're torturing people.




Yeah sure it is. Just ask bengalis, afghans & indian so called "Muslims" if they regard Pakistanis as their "fellow Muslim brothers" and see what the respond would be.......:lol:........even better, ask the Saudis or other Gulfy Arabs if they regard Iranian Muslims as their Muslim brothers, see what THEIR response is...... :rofl:

The Chinese "athiest" brothers helped Pakistan become a powerful nuclear weapons state that a 7× larger enemy can no longer challenge. However, the af-ghand "Muslims" are colluding with the KUFFAR idol worshipping hindus to try to harm Muslim Pakistan.

Ummah doesn't exist. It's a fairy tale sold to low IQ Pakistanis.
 
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People here atleast know that both sides are involved in killings and justify them. Common people might not, but here people have access to more info than others right. But in case of china even that is pretty less, even we cant definitely say what goes on in xinjiang. Problem is china is a control state, hard to get any info, without info, speculative criticism. Its a dead end if china doesnt help, we cant force into china.
"Democracies" are worse as they make you believe you have free, unadulterated and unbiased information prior to every decision you make. Are you really so easily manipulated as to even try to sustain this false illusion of democratic nations by name actually engaging in fair and transparent processes? Gimme a break.
 
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Yeah sure it is. Just ask bengalis, afghans & indian so called "Muslims" if they regard Pakistanis as their "fellow Muslim brothers" and see what the respond would be.......:lol:........even better, ask the Saudis or other Gulfy Arabs if they regard Iranian Muslims as their Muslim brothers, see what THEIR response is...... :rofl:

The Chinese "athiest" brothers helped Pakistan become a powerful nuclear weapons state that a 7× larger enemy can no longer challenge. However, the af-ghand "Muslims" are colluding with the KUFFAR idol worshipping hindus to try to harm Muslim Pakistan.

Ummah doesn't exist. It's a fairy tale sold to low IQ Pakistanis.
Whole lot of bull sheet in this reply.
 
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So you weigh things by how much resentment it will cause nd not if it is right or wrong morally
I have no interest in dealing with cosmic justice. And it is funny when this argument comes from an atheist.
 
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First of all, it is not a Muslim province. Your own bias gives this a new name. It is not even a province and it is definitely not a religious territory.

Second, again, you completely ignore non Muslims. As I said, don't expect things will all go in your way. Grow up!
lol Kid! like i said go read yr comment all over again! It is a Muslim Province and was independent too, was only absorbed through One China Policy in recent history during Mao's era!

Its also bordered on 3 sides with Muslim World! So u cant demolish any Mosques there regardless of how old/new they r. Im just using yr own argument against u, this is yr own yardstick!

Thats why i said go read yr comment again to remind yrself properly of what u had written and then read yr comments now!

Yr embarrassing yrself without even realizing that!
 
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"Democracies" are worse as they make you believe you have free, unadulterated and unbiased information prior to every decision you make. Are you really so easily manipulated as to even try to sustain this false illusion of democratic nations by name actually engaging in fair and transparent processes? Gimme a break.
Yea cuz communism is better. The problems in a democracy can be solved with greater democracy. Can you say the same for communism? why do you guys hold elections in IR of Pakistan ?
 
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I have no interest in dealing with cosmic justice. And it is funny when this argument comes from an atheist.
Yea it might be funny for people who dont use sound logic for their irrational decision and have the audacity to defend it.

A bit like your independent proof which contradicted your claims of india having 55% of Kashmir......... :rofl:
And show me the 40% you had, now bugger off
 
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All this while you were blabbing that its China internal issue....and now you declare Xinjiang as "Muslim" province instead of Chinese one....and bring in Muslim world as argument?



LOL, dont bother too much with Umair, he's not the brightest tool in the shed:



Don't mention Karachi either, he gets triggered easily lol.

He is one of PDF more amusing characters though, try to enjoy the banter rather than take him seriously.
lo g aik orr aya! :rofl:

Why u indians r so keen into things which u have no business being in...Its b/w us and China not u......u care abt yr own country ie Babri Masjid!
 
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lol Kid! like i said go read yr comment all over again! It is a Muslim Province and was independent too, was only absorbed through One China Policy in recent history during Mao's era!

Its also bordered on 3 sides with Muslim World! So u cant demolish any Mosques there regardless of how old/new they r. Im just using yr own argument against u, these r yr own words!

Thats why i said go read yr comment again to remind yrself properly of what u had written and then read yr comments now!

Yr embarrassing yrself without even realizing that!
Good God! Just how illiterate you have to be.
 
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